The Pox on Both Houses
One of the most suggestive recent political developments has been the mooting of a Unity Ticket for the 2008 elections in which a virtual Third Party is created to campaign for a Republican/Democrat hybrid slate. The Washington Post reports:
Although details of the group's aims are somewhat spotty, Unity '08 hopes to harness the power of the Internet to build a community of activists who will be tasked with choosing a "unity" ticket (made up of one Democrat and one Republican) during an online "convention" in June 2008. "That will be after the two parties are likely to have decided in their primaries who their nominees will be, so the Unity '08 convention delegates would then be able to consider who is best to run against them," according to a four-page question and answer document being circulated by the group. ...
The group insists it is not a stalking horse for any candidate and that it has not spoken about its plans with Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) -- the perceived frontrunners for their respective party's nominations.
Commentary
The underlying factors which may be driving this curious and possibly short-lived effort are:
- The possibility that President Bush's low popularity numbers do not necessarily translate to high popularity numbers for a Democrat candidate. Much of the dissatisfaction with President Bush comes from the Right of his positions: from those who feel betrayed by Dubai Ports World fiasco; disappointed by a lack of firmness against illegal immigration or are dissatisfied by an unwillingness to fully prosecute the War on Terror -- issues on which the Democrats may be equally if not more seriously faulted. As in basketball, turnovers and fumbles in politics are useless unless the other side can convert. It's of little use to "frame" Tom DeLay in the context of "Republicans as the party of corruption" when a William Jefferson exists to put both parties on the same side of the line. It's just as useless to criticize GWB's security policy when the other Party manifestly has no security policy of its own.
- The difficulty of swinging the Democratic Party behind a relatively centrist candidate like Hillary Clinton. The campaign to unseat Senator Lieberman and the halting efforts by the Democratic Party to articulate an alternative national security policy all suggest that if GWB is in trouble from his Right, the Democratic centrists are in trouble from their Left. Even should they get possession of the ball, there's no one they can trust to take it to the basket.
- The inexplicable weakness of the antiwar movement after five years indicates a position that is inherently weak, despite the mistakes of President Bush. One of the images that really struck me was of a half-filled function room in Sydney -- a city with a large left-wing contingent -- at which Cindy Sheehan was scheduled to speak. People may not be crazy about GWB but nobody is lining up to hear Cindy Sheehan. The Left has got to face it: the old magic isn't there. Michael Moore will never be the Joan Baez of the early 21st century. The Movement of 1968 has become the walker shuffle of 2008. The existence of the Euston Manifesto, composed of Leftists explicitly committed to fighting Islamic extremism, is another yet indication of why GWB's missteps do not necessarily mean that voters will beat a path to George Galloway's door. The Left has become intellectually shabbier than the Right; and its brightest lights know it.
In short, there's every chance that voters have become disillusioned with a political system that appears to have slipped out of their control and into the hands of foreign lobby groups, special interest organizations and shadowy characters. As the Unity Ticket article quoted in the Washington Post put it:
"We believe that, while the leaders of both major parties are well-intentioned people, they are trapped in a flawed system -- and that the two major parties are today simply neither relevant to the issues and challenges of the 21st century nor effective in addressing them," reads a four-page summary document for "Unity '08".
The two party system has traditionally been a way through which voters could control policy outcomes by performing arithmetic operations on the partisan composition of the Legislature and the Executive. It was a kind of symbolic calculus in which ballot tickets were notation for political promises. Voters selected tickets and thereby selected the desired political outcomes through them; the correspondence was never exact but as long as it was "good enough" the calculus worked. What may be happening is that the voters no longer believe the calculus works.
Any perceived breakdown in the political calculus creates an opportunity for political entrepreneurs to create an alternative set of tickets and thereby get things working again. Whether this will actually succeed in a governmental structure designed along majority/minority lines remains to be seen. A large part of the problem is that the world truly did change on September 11, 2001; not in the sense of what happened on that day but in the sense of what that day revealed about the changes that had already taken place. Yet the political vocabulary of the West has not yet evolved to articulate the problems of the new age nor to deal with them. But the process is beginning.
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Wretchard,
A large part of the problem is that the world truly did change on September 11, 2001; not in the sense of what happened on that day but in the sense of what that day revealed about the changes that had already taken place. Yet the political vocabulary of the West has not yet evolved to articulate the problems of the new age nor to deal with them. But the process is beginning...
I think the thing I most appreciate in your writing is that you so neatly articulate changes which many of us are beginning to sense, but have neither the historical training, nor the brilliance, nor the humane wisdom to adequately express.
Thank you.
Jamie Irons
I think this is just one example of voters trying to 'route around' a set of political barriers erected by a ruling elite to constrain them. In the US it's primarily about the unprecedented level of gerrymandering by both parties, and the resulting iron 'incumbency' barrier.
In Europe the parallel I see is 'extreme' nationalism (Le Pen, etc), which voters in many EU countries are using to try to send a message to their aloof elites. These middle class, overwhelmingly liberal elites decided decades ago that in terms of electoral choice the public must be given access to no nationalism at all.
In both cases the public continues to push, and the established elites, their masters, are dug in and determined to resist.
Well, you'll all be glad to know that there will be at least one "new" voter, come '08.
"... Unlike other expat legends—rock stars Bono and Neil ("Shock & Awe") Young come to mind—who fashion themselves as U.S. foreign policy experts while keeping their citizenship and their vote elsewhere, Mr. Hitchens had a change of heart after terrorists attacked New York and Washington. He watched the Pentagon burn from the rooftop of his apartment in northern Virginia and later lost a mailman to anthrax. So one day this month he will walk into a government office just outside Washington, pledge his allegiance to the United States of America, and become a citizen.
"I realized that when I was reading arguments after 9/11 that said there was the American view and there was the European view—that sort of tripe—that as far as I could tell the American view is the one that I took. I felt a much stronger identification than I had before," Mr. Hitchens tells WORLD. "Before I was ready to curse alone. I was an outsider in both countries. But it felt like, feels like, is a gesture of solidarity."
Solidarity with what, exactly, in a country cleanly divided over war in Iraq and led by a president whose policy toward terrorism has dropped his poll numbers into the dustbin?
"It's fallen on the United States to be the country that resists the renewal of barbarism, of religious barbarism in the world," Mr. Hitchens answers. "It doesn't particularly want the job, it doesn't do it terribly well—and I think would have escaped it if it could—but there's something about the United States that makes it both hated and antagonistic to this barbarism." He adds, "If one wants to defend the deployment of forces of fellow citizens, one probably ought to be a fellow citizen." ..."
Chris Hitchens, American Patriot, to cool.
Dave H,
Juan Peron was President of Argentina. Perhaps you mean Ross PeroT?
"The difficulty of swinging the Democratic Party behind a relatively centrist candidate like Hillary Clinton."
After Hillary was elected as senator, most pundits and political observers noted her conscious effort to change the public’s perception of her from a hard-core feminist leftist to a centrist. If Wretchard’s comment above is any indication, she has been successful. Its odd how people who predicted in advance that she would move to the center because she allegedly had her base solidly behind her, have fallen for her centrist make-over. Even more surprising is that some cite the fact that many on the far left are unhappy with Hillary over the war as evidence that she is now a centrist. I think she loves the left’s criticism of her for not being liberal enough on the war because it helps her make-over effort. I just can’t believe sensible people like Wretchard have fallen for it.
Hillary is a centrist like Bill is Sexually Abstinent.
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Afghanistan, Unraveling
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NY Times Editorial, yet Yon's account does not contradict it.
"Unity" party to call Denver home:
"We want to force them to pay attention to the crucial issues," said Jim Jonas, CEO of Unity08.
Those issues, he said, include such things as global terrorism, education, universal health care, the national debt and nuclear proliferation. This is different than the "important" issues - gay marriage, control and abortion - which Unity08 says should be addressed but not dominate the national agenda and campaign rhetoric.
Unity Party
Google's Patriotism in a word: Pathetic
Arabists at work at State. ...again.
"Our" Government is not on OUR side, folks.
The U.S. should move its embassy to Jerusalem…now
But the real shame is that President Bush once again passed up on an action that would not only move the peace process forward, but would also reduce the likelihood of a future Hamas reelection. And, to top it all off, all President Bush has to do is comply with American law.
That action is moving the American embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem—as required by the 1995 Jerusalem Embassy Act. Passed by the Senate 93 to 5, and the House 347 to 37, the act made it “the official policy of the United States” that Jerusalem be recognized as Israel’s capital and accordingly America’s embassy be moved there. The act mandated withholding funds from the State Department if the embassy was not moved.
President Bush is doing a disservice to both the Jewish people and the Palestinian Arabs by blocking the embassy move. It’s an insult to the Jewish people by refusing to recognize the capital of the Jewish state and implies that her legitimacy is an open question. And it’s harmful to the Palestinian Arabs because it leaves them with a false hope and helps Hamas’s election chances. It’s a disservice to both because it makes peace all that less realistic. Supporters of the Jewish state thought President Bush understood this when he promised on May 22, 2000, that “... as soon as I take office, I will begin the process of moving the United States ambassador to the city Israel has chosen as its capital.” The president has broken that promise every six months since taking office, and, unsurprisingly, peace looks more distant than ever. It’s time for a new policy, or rather implementing an old policy and keeping an old promise.
I will never vote for another Bush again.
Bet I'm not the only Conservative that feels that way.
Anybody remember when Jeb's beautiful wife smuggled jewelry into the country?
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Rumsfeld's Remarks - 17:56
Select channel 'Specials/Interviews'
Malkin on Haditha
Figures:
"Condi wins [Rich Lowry]
Word in Washington is that Cheney and Rumsfeld opposed the Iranian initiative, but that Condi supported it and Bush sided with her."
It is laughable to think that it will take a Democrat and a Republican combination to lead this country. We have a preview of that tidy duet in the Senate amnesty bill for illegal aliens purposefully misnamed "illegal immigrants". The US common culture is debased and discredited due to an inability to set and enforce basic moral standards. The political culture is worse. No decent, thinking, balanced thoughtful person would want to go through the outrage of a US election. The entire process is degrading, dishonest and ugly. So we get the politicians we deserve. We have allowed ourselves to be forced to select from a stagnant putrid gene pool that produces the best of the worst.
You do not have to practice citizenship to be an American. You do not have to be able to read to vote. In some places you do not have to be a citizen to vote. Soon enough, the swing choices in American politics will be decided by morphed Americans uneducated and socialized in Mexico. A country where you would not drink the water or send your kids for an elementary education is barely educating a displaced peasantry who will one day decide your legacy. The Republicans and Democrats have brought you here. A nation of victims parroting unquestioned drivel about diversity, entitlements and choice has wedged its collective fat behind into a seat at the back of the bus. And guess who will be driving? Not you. Have a nice day and a dorito.
You'll like this 2164th:
BILINGUAL AMERICA
So, despite the fact that "Bilingual Education" was outed years ago as a make-work fraud that detracted from educational progress, this school and these parents are more than willing to sacrifice the kids and the country's future for ...something.
"A nation of victims parroting unquestioned drivel about diversity, entitlements and choice."
Demoblicans and Republicrats! A flawed and corrupted system, indeed.
Now, imagine intelligent adults, all the men and women of (a given locale), meeting at their appointed meeting place TO ELECT THEIR Government; see them reviewing ONLY the requisite characteristics that their elected government should possess (unwavering loyalty to the good of the community, a well-trained mind and willingness to serve); in your mind see the assembled adults of the community, by the thousands, quietly and prayerfully cast written secret ballots choosing the best-qualified among themselves, WITHOUT parties or platforms, WITHOUT nominations or speechs...
America can learn much from this Administrative system, already demonstrative of its unifying, dignified power... in practice by all the adults of the World Baha'i Community for decades!
Unity Party, indeed.
Wretchard, this is not a real movement. This is a bunch of disgruntled Democratic who are unhappy with America's "political system" because their party keeps losing elections. This has nothing to do with the dissatisfied right. DO you see anybody like Pat Buchanan involved with this venture? Only with significant participation from paleocons like him could this in any system represents "bipartisan" dissatisfaction. This is a vanity stunt for publicity hounds.
Mr Maliki does not care who the next President is, nor Prime Minister of England. He is taking "charge". He has ordered his Army to Basra, just forgot to tell the "occupiers"
"...Trying to stamp his authority on the region, Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki arrived here in an American helicopter with Iraq's Sunni Arab vice president and three other senior Iraqi officials, and he berated local leaders for the chaos. He ordered the Iraqi Army to take over Basra's streets — a demand that apparently came as a surprise to the British Army, which patrols the region, and that could prove difficult, as units would have to be brought from outside the city. ..."
Michael Rubin
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Can someone enlighten me about Iranian influence in Kurdistan?
(ie How do they infiltrate what I thought would be hostile territory)
“Damage Is Done”
Today, Iranian intelligence have free reign over southern Iraq and, increasingly, Iraqi Kurdistan. None of this should come as a surprise to Washington. Iranian government officials consider U.S. red lines to be drawn with pencil on sand.
On September 20, 2001, President Bush declared, “Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.” With Bush’s decision to abandon freedom-seekers across the region, and reward a terror-sponsoring Iranian regime in noncompliance with its international commitments, the White House has signaled to the world, stand with us if you want, but we only respond when you’re against us.
6:03 AM
At least our foreign policy matches our domestic policy!
Suck up to the Clintons and Kennedy, screw the conservatives.
Makes sense to me.
This poor Government Security offical longs for the days of a "Strongman"
"... One large prize is control of Basra's oil exports. The city is near the country's only seaport, and nearly all of Iraq's current exports flow through it. Political parties accuse one another of skimming from the flow and trying to control it.
"As long as we have parties, it's impossible to ensure security," said one of Basra's senior security officials. "If you print this," the official added nervously, explaining why he wanted his name withheld, "I'll be killed." ...
...the parties have wielded influence is through control of portions of this city's 15,000-man police force, which is about double it's the authorized size. Rival parties and gangs fight one another through their own police units. The police chief, Maj. Gen. Hassan Swadi al-Saad, has said he trusts only a small fraction of his forces. ...
... The officials from Baghdad included Vice President Tariq al-Hashemi, a Sunni Arab; Khalid al-Atiya, the deputy speaker of Parliament; Bahaa al-Aaraji, a Parliament member close to the anti-American cleric Moktada al-Sadr, whose influence and militia in Basra are strong; and Safa al-Safi, the minister of state for Parliament affairs. ..."
But scape goats, they are the same, the World over.
"... Mr. Abadi, of Fadhila, said local leaders had done the best they could with few resources and blamed the news media for painting too ghoulish a security picture. "Don't put all the blame or all the mistakes or all the collapse on the local government here," he said. ...
One has to understand that if these type of things were not reported they would not have occurred, aye.
This story was published in the NYTimes, but written by Iraqis, Ali Adeeb contributed reporting from Baghdad, and an Iraqi employee of the NYTimes from Basra.
So who knows, it may not all be true, but then again, it may.
Reality in far away places is hard to discern, sometimes.
Just like the "truth" of that Haditha raid on invalids and babes in arms.
McCain/Kennedy/Bush on Acid (we wish)
...beats simple corruption
WASHINGTON -- The director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, the agency that would administer a new guest-worker program and rule on applications from millions of illegal aliens, says the pending Senate bill doesn't give his agency enough time to prepare for that giant task.
"Quite frankly, I don't think that's really practical. Ninety days to register 12 million people. Do the math," Emilio T. Gonzalez, who took over as director early this year, told The Washington Times.
We're litigating cases today from 1986. And I think the reason we're doing that -- I'm not a lawyer, by the way -- is, if you don't take care of the details, that's what's going to bring you down," he said.
BAGHDAD (AP) — The top U.S. general in Iraq on Thursday ordered American commanders to conduct core values training on moral and ethical standards on the battlefield.
The order from Lt. Gen. Peter Chiarelli, the commander of Multinational Corps Iraq, came as the U.S. military investigated whether U.S. Marines intentionally killed unarmed civilians in the town of Haditha on Nov. 19.
Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said he asked a ministerial committee to hold talks with the U.S. military to set ground rules for raids and detentions.
The dead included women and children who were killed following a bomb attack on a military convoy in which a Marine died.
Chiarelli said the training would emphasize "professional military values and the importance of disciplined, professional conduct in combat" as well as Iraqi cultural expectations.
"As military professionals, it is important that we take time to reflect on the values that separate us from our enemies," he said. "The challenge for us is to make sure the actions of a few do not tarnish the good work of the many." ..."
Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said he asked a ministerial committee to hold talks with the U.S. military to set ground rules for raids and detentions.
Now the Iraqis will be writing US RoE's.
Out by '07, '08 at the latest, that is what the Iraqi's say.
Still have not signed a lease for ANY long term basing rights. Won't be a "Long War" for US for long, in Iraq.
Metaphysician, perhaps you're right.
In which case, we'll adapt our system to whom we CAN elect, president or not.
And, scaling up, there are already provisions serving a huge community, by electing our REPRESENTATIVES who elect a National-level government.
Investigate for yourself. The system works well, and it does so without parties, platforms, nominations and aggravations.
Of course, the people using it believe it was given to humankind by the Righteousness that is Christ, come in His New Name, in the Station of the Father! :)
We already do that for the Office of President, karridine, the only Office the represents the entire US.
The representitives are chosen in each State, then meet and elect the President. If those folk cannot come to a decision, the House choses the President.
It is called the Electoral College and it is those reprentitives only function. There is no need to modify our System. There is a need to defend it, though, from the Federal Government.
McCain-Fiengold and it's limits on political speech, along with it's affirmation by the SCOTUS is all the proof required that Freedom is on the decline in the US.
"Government of the Government, by the Government and for the Government" has already been approved for US.
See you all on the beach, surf's up!
Here is a description of the current assualt on the Electoral College, from Investor's Business Daily.
In San Diego, "Duke's old seat is up for grabs, Tuesday...
SAN DIEGO – By the numbers, Democratic congressional candidate Francine Busby shouldn't expect to get a federal paycheck anytime soon.
She's running, for the second time, in a conservative district where registered Republicans outnumber Democrats by more than 4:3. In the 2004 general election, she snagged just 36 percent of the vote. And her opponent's political experience outpaces hers by about two decades. ...
... Polls show a tight race, and Busby's mild, suburban-mom persona appears to be winning voters. Still, the hill she must climb to election is a big one. Democrats have won only four of 195 races in Republican-dominated congressional districts in the Golden State since 1966, says Dr. Jacobson. Each time, the GOP had only a slight registration advantage. ...
...Busby, meanwhile, is under attack as a "taxing liberal" who favors rights for illegal immigrants and opposes English as an official language. She responded with footage of Sen. John McCain (R) of Arizona, whose immigration plan she supports.
"Both sides are trying out their heavy artillery to see what works for them in the fall," says political scientist Carl Luna of Mesa College.
Despite the millions of dollars pumped into the race, it's not clear that voters are paying much attention in the 50th District, which covers a wide swath of San Diego's northern suburbs - a Republican bastion, except for some Democratic pockets along the coast - and a bit of the city itself. Turnout is expected to be light, and a debate at a San Diego senior center last weekend attracted only a few dozen people.
... Republicans disgruntled by Bush and Congress may be the deciding factor in Bilbray versus Busby. "The real question for the conservative wing is: Are they willing to ... suck it up and vote to help the party?" Dr. Luna says.
If the Republicans can't win "with their home-field advantage, that's a sign the fans are deserting the home team." ..."
In a June race for Congress, shades of fall "Tuesday's election in a California district is an early test of voters' views."
By Randy Dotinga
The ruling classes in the USA and Europe have been involved on 20+ year enterprise to forge the states of Europe Plus Turkey into one country -- and this -- as a way to forge tighter bonds with the moslem countries around the medetteranian basin. (the idea is to get to one world government by assembling blocks together first.)
A similiar pattern is at work in North America as a way to assemble a north american block. (also as a stepping stone to assembling ever larger blocks.)
The problem with 9/11 was that it revealed that the no borders enterprise of the ruling elites has exposed the US middle class to unlimited liabilities in exchange for nothing.
Heck its not even clear that the ruling elites would benefit from a borderless world.
The Non-Amnesty Nightmare
Core-Values Training Ordered for Military in Iraq
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Join the United States Marine Core-Values.
An Army of Dumb.
Immigration-Corruption
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Diversity Immigrant Visa Lottery Program , and etc.
Your Tax Dollars at work.
Please fill in the blank, blanc:
Where do you fit in all this?
(I be a RR Republican/Conservative)
10:36 AM Charles:
Not for NOTHING!
World Class Wages for All.
(Estimate could be had by Dividing World Income by World Population)
The President of the World (Bill Clinton) would also benefit, big time!
Habu 9:43 AM,
That's a REEALLY GREAT IDEA,
...but it Sucks, Big Time!
Karensky,
Any additional info on Hailey Barbour would be appreciated:
Record on Defense, "Diversity," Immigratiion, etc.
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Rufus?
Interesting choice of words C4. yes indeed "czar" fits well, both with clinton's proclivities and the left's approach to just about everything.
Clinton would make a great czar because he, more than any president in recent memory, understood that a good czar needs good concubines.
Habu, re:
Kareem o'Wheat:
I am electoraly Tolerant, but Wheat Intolerant!
What to do?
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Steyn says Akgoofyjad widened all the intersections on the way into Tehran for the coming of the 12th hoo hah!
More Steyn:
China needs Oil,
Euros have trade ties,
Forget Action on Iran.
Wretchard said:
Any perceived breakdown in the political calculus creates an opportunity for political entrepreneurs to create an alternative set of tickets and thereby get things working again.
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I wonder who has a better memory? Democrats or conservatives?
Perot made Clinton possible. Will third rail conservatives jump ship faster than the CCCP-KOS types?
With that said I'm less than enthusiastic for 2008.
:(
Bigger Diggler condensed from previous:
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Squeamishness-As-Strategic-Priority
has had the direct result of
a). making the "war" less and less palatable to the American public...
and
b). It directly emboldens our enemies, who correctly percieve this as a lack of will to fight...
SAN DIEGO -- Military prosecutors plan to file murder, kidnapping and conspiracy charges against seven Marines and a Navy corpsman in the shooting death of an Iraqi man in April, a defense lawyer said Thursday.
The eight men are being held in the brig at Camp Pendleton Marine Corps base north of San Diego, said Jeremiah Sullivan III, who represents one of the men.
The men served in Iraq with the 3rd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment, and are members of the battalion's Kilo Company. The highest-ranking among them is a staff sergeant. ...
...Separately, another group of five Marines in Kilo Company, including a lieutenant who commanded the platoon, are under investigation for injuring a suspect in their custody, according to a defense attorney who has been contacted by the family of one of the Marines. He spoke Thursday only on condition of anonymity because he has not taken on the case. ..."
The drums have just begun to beat
It's an ill wind that's blowin'
Systemic violence caused by the warrior culture of the Marines.
Ethics training, core values, that is a preemptive attempt by Leadership to stem the bleeding, it will not be enough to satisfy the critics.
Just to violent, all those Marines
Bet they all have tattoos, as well.
Immigrant, Sniper, Baker
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Rat:
That story started when
"An Iraq Human Rights Group"
Contacted Time Mag which then contacted WH.
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I think Bilbray has 3 other Republicans running, otherwise it would be no contest in California.
...but MSM Won't mention that, win or lose.
", it will not be enough to satisfy the critics. "
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Would the sacrifice of a few young Marine's lives do the trick?
That might be the compassionate way out.
blanc:
I'm always Right, but only sometimes get righteous about it.
No 3rd party for me yet.
I'll further decipher and comment later ;-)
Hewitt says Chertoff has completely blown funding for Homeland Security.
Here's Tim McGirk, the guy that started the Haditha Story:
Thanksgiving with the Taliban
The Le Monde correspondent asks what it would take to reach peace in Afghanistan. "We had peace," Haqqani insists. "The Taliban was on the verge of defeating these bandits, until America helped them out. Now there are robberies and killings everywhere.
The Taliban will have to start all over again." Our missing colleagues finally arrive, and I leave thinking that maybe this evening wasn't very different from the original Thanksgiving: people from two warring cultures sharing a meal together and realizing, briefly, that we're not so different after all.
The Unity ticket is the perfect illustration of how the two parties in the US are completely aligned in the cause of growing huge government into something incomprehensibly immense.
The fringes of each party want to grow government as well. On the right, a theocratic flavor. On the left, a godless, hedonistic european flavor. The core remains the same. More big government.
The Unity ticket is the ticket of government for government's sake. Bureaucracy because bureaucracy is good. It is the ticket of the party that only knows the Imperial City of Washington DC as the center of everything.
Just three words -
G.F.O.
Don't make me spell it.
Desert Rat, 0810AM:
"We're doing that now..."
We're electing our government without nominations, platforms, parties and campaigns?
We're electing our governments in a thoughtful, prayerful atmosphere?
I SINCERELY DOUBT YOU, Sir!
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