Thursday, May 03, 2007

The Battle in the Clouds

The Internet as vital to terrorism as the AK-47. This is the message of a report to be presented to the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. Terrorists have increased their use of the Internet to make their activities faster, cheaper and more secure, according to the AP.

What's the counter? Ban milblogging, right. And then leave the counterattack on the web to the professionals. But Former Spook doesn't think much of a proposed Internet counter-strategy in which:

national leaders need to develop a compelling "counter-narrative" that the "West is not engaged in a battle against Islam," hire more intelligence officers to infiltrate chat rooms and foster better relations with Muslims.

I have a feeling that this battle has to be left to the ultimate amateurs: to the public and their keyboards.


Blogger philip said...

I don't think creating a counter narrative will make a whit of difference. Belief systems are very persistent and resistant to facts, logic and rational argument. How else can you explain the number of leftist moonbats and AGW catastrophe believers.

5/03/2007 09:18:00 PM  
Blogger Utopia Parkway said...

If we can use the net to catch pedophiles who want to have sex with 14 year olds we should be able to use the net to capture jihadis.

I mean come on, on the field of battle in an open engagement the jihadis always lose. Their strengths go more to IEDs and attacks on civilians. Not the use of the internet for attacks on the West.

How is it that the internet can't be used to the benefit of the West to track and intercept jihadis?

5/03/2007 09:26:00 PM  
Blogger Db2m said...

"hire more intelligence officers to infiltrate chat rooms and foster better relations with Muslims."

I nominate Habu for chat room officer.

5/03/2007 10:29:00 PM  
Blogger putnam said...

The "moderate" muslims need to be constantly confronted with the results of the islamo-nazi's tactics. Google/Youtube should perform a public service and cross-link vidoes of the devastation of the car/truck-bombs all other pro-insurgency clips.

5/04/2007 02:02:00 AM  
Blogger Sgt. Mom said...

As for what putnam suggested, I wrote something like that several years ago:

In part, I suggested:
"4. Show the head-choppings, the murders and the executions, with blade and stone and shot to the head— of Moslems and Westerners alike. Show the jihadis blowing up busloads of schoolchildren and murdering election workers. Show them shouting “Allah Akbar!” as they saw the heads off live people, replay their every murder, boast and claim of responsibility… and give the credit for the source of the video. Show the video of Osama chuckling to his guests as he describes how the Towers collapsed. Include the ferocious, hate-filled rants of those bearded, spittle-beflecked Imams… those in the mosques of the West and the East, too; all those who don’t think anyone but their own congregations are listening.

5. Show too, the aftermath of their work— again, giving credit to the TV media of the Moslem world; show the blood, the body parts strewn all over, the wrecked lives of innocents. Show it all, and choke with blood and shame, anyone who still will try and claim that this version of Islam is a religion of peace. Show every instance of Islamic terrorism’s lies, hypocrisy, and bloodshed… especially the blood shed amongst Moslems by their coreligionists…

6. And finally, show us and the Islamic world as a footnote, the remains of dead jihadis, bits and pieces of their gruesome dead bodies, all mixed in with bits of metal from suicide bombs, dead in the dirt like so much garbage, or shot down like a dog by an American sniper. . . Show how clear and inglorious is the modern jihad, shoveled into an unmarked, un-mourned grave. Throw it all back in their faces— credited, and exhaustively footnoted— every ugly boast, word and deed."

5/04/2007 05:35:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

" "Islam is a faith that brings comfort to people. It inspires them to lead lives based on honesty, and justice, and compassion."
Remarks by President George W. Bush

White House web site.

"The Islam that we know is a faith devoted to the worship of one God, as revealed through The Holy Qur'an. It teaches the value and the importance of charity, mercy, and peace."
President George W. Bush's Message for Ramadan

5/04/2007 06:36:00 AM  
Blogger allen said...

desert rat,

re: 5/04/2007 06:36:00 AM

Holy cow! Wow! Did he really say that?!

You need to get that information off to Secretary Gates ASAP, because the military hasn’t gotten the word.

Why, just this morning, I discovered that US troops are in Afghanistan, Iraq, Turkey, Egypt, Dubai, Kuwait, Pakistan and only G-d knows where else in the region. And, DR, they are killing Muslims right and left!

Please, don’t hesitate. America needs your crucial insights, now!

5/04/2007 07:35:00 AM  
Blogger Mətušélaḥ said...


dRat is correct.

If the Racist French can openly admit to their Racism and Jihadi phobia, so can the Americans (and Israelis, btw). I think we'd all be better for it.

5/04/2007 09:32:00 AM  
Blogger PeristalsisLog said...

Just wanted to check and see if things were moving along over here.

5/04/2007 10:28:00 AM  
Blogger PeristalsisLog said...

Islam forms the basis for my chucky swirly's

5/04/2007 10:30:00 AM  
Blogger Habu said...


Western Europe is becoming increasingly diverse, especially France and Britain. That process will continue apace.(This next sentence is pure bull shit-Habu) The ability of our societies to embrace all races and cultures will be crucial to their future stability, security and success. (deport them all now while you still can-Habu) The alternative is the "Sarkozy route", which has all too many parallels elsewhere in Europe, not least in the Netherlands:(these are GOOD things when it comes to the treatment of Mussulmen-Habu)repression, ghettoes, gated communities, rampant racism, the exclusion of ethnic minorities from mainstream society, a form of low-level civil war.

The Guardian

Is it tomorrow we finally get Sarkozy and Merkel on our side? Or is the Frog election the 6th?

5/04/2007 10:35:00 AM  
Blogger Aquarium said...

More Kafkaesque behavior from the UN
Ed Lasky
Zimbabwe is about to become head of UN's Commission on Sustainable Development. This goes beyond Orwell; it is Kafkaesque.

Under the dictatorship of Robert Mugabe, all indexes of economic well-being, let alone political freedom, have plummeted. Life expectancy at birth for males has dramatically declined from 60 to 37 since 1990 (for women it is even lower), making it the lowest in the world. The infant mortality rate has climbed from 53 to 81 deaths per 1000 live births in the same period. Five and a half million Zimbabweans currently live with HIV. Inflation has soared; trade unions are repressed; opponents are tortured.

Even the UN notes that the Zimbabwe Economy is Africa's Worst Performer in 2006 (its economy slipped 4.4% last year, while Africa's economies averaged growth of 5.7%).

Urban redevelopment for Zimbabwe consists of destroying vast swaths of housing which are occupied by those groups considered political opponents of the ruling regime. Formerly a huge exporter of farm goods, the country now relies on imports of food for sustenance. Yep...sure sounds like qualifications for the new chair of the UN Commission on Sustainable Development.

If the UN were rational and felt the need for an African nation to head the Commission, it should have chosen Botswana-which for many years has enjoyed a booming economy AND political freedom. But that would presume some positive values at the UN.


5/04/2007 10:38:00 AM  
Blogger Aquarium said...

Islam is a hate filled gutter religion that should be destroyed to it's last believer George W. Bush

translated directly from Muslim Brother/CAIR publication, May 2004

5/04/2007 10:42:00 AM  
Blogger PeristalsisLog said...

Where is Sheryl Crow when you neeed her?

5/04/2007 10:43:00 AM  
Blogger a4qps51xk said...

As PeristalsisLog said on another site to Marcus Aurorialis.

the writing is on the wall.

The Iraqi parliment and the Griswolds are headed to WallyWorld for a two month vacation. So it really doesn't matter what Congress funds, de-declares,says, etc. It's already swirling around the bowl and picking up speed and suction.
We need to pull back to desert redoubts until we can take over the oilfields.

5/04/2007 10:56:00 AM  
Blogger Ben said...

The problem with this counter-narrative is that it's false. The west is at war with Islam, and has been for 1400 years or so. Remember Tours .

5/06/2007 12:15:00 AM  
Blogger unaha-closp said...

Hate to say this, but the counter narrative has to be a socialist one. Islamism is a conservative religiuos revival driven by the voluntary funding from rich owners of high value assets (oil fields).

5/06/2007 03:20:00 PM  

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