Sunday, February 18, 2007

Passage From India

At least sixty four persons were killed on a train which left Delhi station en route to Pakistan according to Rediff. The train is ironically known as the "Friendship Train".

The two coaches, where all the deaths took place, were completely gutted and only the charred remains were visible. The explosions in the train took place at 11:55 pm on Sunday night. The biweekly train left the Old Delhi railway station at 10:40 pm.

Northern Railway General Manger V N Mathur, who reached the spot from Delhi, said two suitcases were recovered from the spot -- one on the rail track and one from the train. Both the suitcases contained IEDs -- one of them also had incendiary material, either kerosene or petrol, he said. He said he had talked to the gateman near Deewana station who told him that he had heard two distinct explosions. "From this evidence, we deduce that this is a clear case of sabotage," Mathur said.

MSN India reports that the attack is now officially blamed on the use of an "IED". According to MSN India:


The suspected terrorist bombing - said to be triggered by improvised explosive devices (IED) - was clearly aimed at derailing the peace process between India and Pakistan as Indian and Pakistani nationals, most of them poor people, were targeted in the attack. Foreign ministers' level talks between the two countries are to resume in New Delhi on Tuesday. ...

A devastating fire engulfed two coaches - No 10 and 11 - of the Atari Special 4001 train just after 1 am on Monday. The passengers were on their way from Delhi to Lahore. Most of the passengers were killed due to burns and suffocation inside the two coaches. Scores of other passengers were injured, 20 of them critically, and were rushed to the civil hospital in Panipat for treatment. Several passengers, including women, children and old people, jumped out of the burning train even as it was still moving.

The only -- and trite -- comment I can make is that attacks such as this will continue for the indefinite future. We are in a Long War. A War without Declarations. Perhaps one even without causes. But hopefully one which has an end.

Attacks on innocents have become part and parcel, even a "feature" of extended negotiations between terrorist entities and civil society. For example whenever some kind of peace initiative is attempted between Palestine and Israel, a suicide bombing is inevitably waiting in the wings. Every time the Iraqi government attempts to achieve some reconciliation between factions, a car bomb is readied in some garage to wreak carnage on an unsuspecting marketplace. Killings have become as much a part of the Peace Process as the green baize table. One may speak of the cost of war. But what of the costs of "engagement"? And at what point do they become indistinguishable?

I suppose I should wait for the meaningless expressions of regret from the United Nations and various and sundry humanitarian and European organizations. Followed by the inevitable dark hints that this was caused by the bad international atmospherics created by the United States.

38 Comments:

Blogger wretchard said...

Perhaps the idea of War and Peace as a binary state has passed. It would be interesting to see whether an equivalent concept exists among rival tribes in parts of the Middle East or whether they are accustomed to living in a twilight state of neither war nor peace, the condition depending on the time of day.

If, as now seems, the Tribes have imposed their way of war upon the West, then we will long for a definite peace the way Redcoats in North America hankered after the clash of orderly ranks in the open field. Long will we seek it, but seek it in vain.

Then Israel will have proved not the exception, but rather the new rule. And the landscape though apparently open, may little by little come to be divided into besieged demesnes; a new Dark Age arising on the foundation of the new tribalism. And the wonder of it all is that it will have been built in our faces. Perhaps this is the way civilizations finish; when the consensus to go on ends. If the West does not have the inner desire to continue then perhaps it has taken the subconscious decision to wind it all up.

2/18/2007 10:32:00 PM  
Blogger wretchard said...

A UN report reveals how hundreds of Islamist fighters were flown from Somalia to Syria and Libya for military training while military aid was provided by Egypt and Saudi Arabia. (The Australian) Our enemies were armed, in short, by our friends.

Hundreds of Islamist fighters were flown, with Eritrean assistance, from Somalia to Syria and Libya for military training. Others were taken to Lebanon to fight with Hezbollah, the report to the UN security council says.

UN investigators detail the military aid given to the Islamists by Saudi Arabia and Egypt, Arab states purportedly friendly to the West. Iran supplied 125 shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles, 80 of which arrived by sea in dhows and the rest by air.

A clandestine operation to smuggle the fighters out of Somalia began in July last year.

Evgueny Zakharov, the owner of Aerolift, an airline with a fleet of ageing Antonov and Ilyushin transport aircraft based in Johannesburg but registered in the British Virgin Islands, said in an interview: "We transported lots of men in uniform -- Arab men with masks.

Mr Zakharov's revelations came as Western security services continued their investigation into foreigners suspected of fighting on behalf of Islamic forces in Somalia and of joining al-Qa'ida last year. Among them are British, US and French Muslims.


Just as the idea of a binary state of war and peace may have gone by, so to the idea of a "friend". Maybe all we have now, and can ever hope to have, is friends in some respect. Friends depending on the time of day and whether or not you are looking. Those who object to the futility of fighting for or against such inconstant allies should logically accept the equal futility of talking to the same. What a pass we have come to.

2/18/2007 10:44:00 PM  
Blogger allen said...

Wretchard,

To take nothing away from what you have written and the horror of the atrocity, the "spirit" against which the civilized world fights was seen in Nashville, Tennessee this evening.

Cabbie Runs Down Students (Religious Argument Leaves One Hospitalized)

The "alleged" perpetrator: Ibrihim Ahmed

2/18/2007 11:03:00 PM  
Blogger allen said...

wretchard,

Because I am a Jew, you may appreciate that none of the Muslim governments you cite will ever be my “friend”. What is striking to me as an American is the amount of abuse my government will tolerate at the hands of its “friends”. Moreover, I question the sanity of a public that will permit its government to be so abused.

In a macabre way, the only bright spot I see is the Muslim habit of overplaying a weak hand. Perhaps, the next 9/11 will be the tipping point, although I wouldn’t give odds on that eventuality.

2/18/2007 11:25:00 PM  
Blogger NahnCee said...

Britain stepped up to block the proposed "Super Mosque" that its Muslims were wanting to build for the next Olympics.

Dutch politician Geert Wilders called on Muslims to "tear the Koran in half" and throw half of it away if they want to remain in the Netherlands. Saudi Arabia is seething and demanding apologies.

However, it seems to me that for each outrage in the West such as being run over by a taxicab driver named Ahmed, there is a stiffening of resolve.

I think ultimately it will come down to restricting Muslims to the Middle East and not allowing them to travel outside of that area, or nuking them. Where you have populations that are heavily Muslim such as in India or Indonesia, then those governments will have to come up with their own ways of dealing with their inborn terrorist populations.

The rest of us are still at a point of being able to slam the door and not let them in for ANY reason, and if they are already here, laws can be retroactively enacted to deport them.

The only other two options are demanding that they toss out half their religion, or genocide.

2/18/2007 11:35:00 PM  
Blogger wretchard said...

Allen,

Maybe that's part of the problem. The West is used to dealing with states. Accustomed to making agreements with the Honorable Foreign Minister. Fighting against soldiers with shoulder patches. Against declared enemies. Etc. And according to the rules of the game, the citizens of the contracting states, whether atheist, Christian, Hindu, Jew, Buddhist or Jain are all bound by the agreement. That's what "friends" are in the nation-state world.

But what do we do when a cabdriver runs you down? Or a guy decides to blow up a football game? Or torch the "Friendship Express" between India and Pakistan? As the Robot in Lost in Space used to say, "it does not compute". And then our intellectual flagships, universities, think tanks, pundits all go "Tilt" (for those of you who remember pinball machines). Like the Redcoats one is faced with opponents who don't know the "rules of war". Dagnab it. They take off their uniforms. Pretend to lay down their arms. Meet in secret in so-called houses of prayer. They lie. Cheat. Stab you in the back. Hell it ain't fair. Already people are people are asking, why can't we win this as quickly as World War 2?

Well OK, what then? We adopt their methods. Maybe we're doing that already in Iraq. Let the Tribes impose their way of War on us. Beat them at their own game. And pretty soon we're all running around in the middle of the night, burning, slashing, carrying off. But maybe that kind of war is designed to never end.

The heart of the strategic problem is to find some way to impose our way of war on the tribes. To find a way to compel war to end. The End of War is the end of war. But I'm just going on late on Sunday night. Maybe things will look better in the morning.

2/18/2007 11:36:00 PM  
Blogger allen said...

wretchard,

re: late

Indeed.

But how late?

I retire thinking of Augustine learning of the sack of Rome and Jeremiah witnessing the fall of Jerusalem. Now, that is dismal.

Tomorrow’s sunrise may revive the spirit of an old man, who has seen both the triumphant majesty and apparent humiliation of his beloved.

Until tomorrow.

2/18/2007 11:56:00 PM  
Blogger Mike H. said...

We need to start feeding the sharks. We can get it rolling by cleaning out Guantanamo and then restocking it.

2/19/2007 12:50:00 AM  
Blogger Meme chose said...

Nahncee: I think ultimately it will come down to restricting Muslims to the Middle East and not allowing them to travel outside of that area, or nuking them.

In other words, confinement to a reservation. Maybe our ancestors' thinking was not so different from our own as has been supposed.

2/19/2007 01:56:00 AM  
Blogger Stephen Renico said...

Someone, I forget who, said that The Enemy tries to kill us with a thousand small cuts, knowing that we lack the resolve to don armor and take giant sword swings.

Iraq has made us even less decisive. Just look at the nonsense in the House of Reps last week.

2/19/2007 04:12:00 AM  
Blogger Papa Bear said...

The United States has lots of experience in fighting the tribal way of war, internally.

Take a look at the Indian Wars. From the first colonies thru the late 1800's, we had conflicts with the various Indian tribes, and their various members.

We came to a resolution. It was not a pleasant resolution for the people at Wounded Knee and the Trail of Tears, but it most definitely was a resolution

2/19/2007 05:57:00 AM  
Blogger Teresita said...

Papa Bear said, "The United States has lots of experience in fighting the tribal way of war, internally."

Unfortunately, this experience is not the sort of thing one would boldly emblazon on their resume:


In April 1856, Captain Hamilton J. C. Maxon and his troops came upon a small Nisqually encampment near Ohop Creek and killed everyone in it. Then Maxon and his men discovered a larger group of several families in a fishing camp near the confluence of the Mashel and the Nisqually rivers. Most of the people were women and children; a witness, Robert Thompson, counted only two men. Maxon ordered his soldiers to charge the defenseless Nisqually families. They slaughtered some seventeen Nisqually and wounded many more.

2/19/2007 07:01:00 AM  
Blogger allen said...

wretchard,

re: Just as the idea of a binary state of war and peace may have gone by, so to the idea of a "friend".

As your Australian link makes clear, nation-states are far from passé.

bob w said:
“Do you believe that the U.S. is going to spend the next three decades dealing with threats from Nation States, and that is where the focus should be for the military?

You are probably in the minority if you do.”
****
allen replied:
“bob w,

The United States will continue to fight nation states, as it has since WWII, through their proxies.

The similarity between Iraq and both Korea and Vietnam is the sanctity of facilitating, hostile, bordering countries. From the looks of things, Iraq may well end as inconclusively.”
****
allen replied:
“bob w,

re: Iraq

There are those who would say that prior to 2003 Iraq was a nation-state and not a proxy. It occurs to me that Iraq was both a nation-state and a proxy. Yes, a proxy in so far as a consortium of nation-states invested heavily in Iraq, contrary to law, in order to weaken the “Hegemon”, to quote Chirac and Putin. Whether Iraq could have survived the First Gulf War and the subsequent sanctions and embargoes without the aid of Russia, France, Germany, and the UN leadership may be doubted.

The American “adventure” in Iraq is about far more than Saddam Hussein and Iran.”

No War Too Small

***

2/19/2007 07:31:00 AM  
Blogger Teresita said...

Stephen Renico said, Iraq has made us even less decisive. Just look at the nonsense in the House of Reps last week.

Not to mention the nonsense of the last four years, catch & release, fighting for the same territory multiple times, driving HUMVEE's back and forth between the Bubble and the Bahgdad airport like ducks in a shooting gallery, and now we're going to reinforce with 21,500 new troops, but they're going in piecemeal, one battalion at a time, just like the Japanese Imperial army did at Guadalcanal and look what happened to them.

2/19/2007 07:51:00 AM  
Blogger Papa Bear said...

teresita, as I said, it was not a pleasant resolution for the people involved. Whether at Wounded Knee, Dresden, or Hiroshima, we adopt quite different, and distinctly ungentlemanly, rules of engagement when we see ourselves facing an existential threat.

Perhaps not quite as ungentlemanly as the Romans to the Carthaginians, or the Israelites to the Canaanites, but very ungentlemanly none the less.

Inside a great many of us is the persona of the old Romans. Christianity tended to try hard to bottle it up, and put a firm cork in it. Given an existential threat, particularly a threat to the lives of our families, the cork tends to pop off the bottle.

2/19/2007 07:51:00 AM  
Blogger El Jefe Maximo said...

I tend to agree with Papa Bear's 0751 comment. As I argued on my own blog...if the chatterers and lefties want to give up and accept the "wind up" of civilization,then we will eventually give up on them, and find new ways to guarantee our security. Wretchard's "Tribes" will then have tribal warfare rules applied to them.

2/19/2007 08:16:00 AM  
Blogger Pierre Legrand said...

The heart of the strategic problem is to find some way to impose our way of war on the tribes. To find a way to compel war to end. The End of War is the end of war. But I'm just going on late on Sunday night. Maybe things will look better in the morning.

This isn't such a hard problem, it is simply that the solution is so detesteble. And yet as I have said before others before us have resorted to the sorts of tactics required to win wars like these and our nation survived the blow to the sanity and morals of those fighting.

We need to utterly destroy any nation that funds, trains, and in any way supports those who engage in terror. That means that tomorrow Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, Pakistan simply cease to exist. Send them back into the stone age until they learn to play with the other children. Make them tremble every single time a jet flies overhead. Make their children and wives sorry their husbands and fathers ever dreamed of blowing themselves up.

We have fought wars this way before. And those wars were successful. We have foregotten that victory is defined not by some complicated formula but simply by the breaking of the will. Breaking the will is bloody and horrible...it can be no other way. Until we relearn that lesson we will continue seeing this death by a thousand cuts strategy.

2/19/2007 08:30:00 AM  
Blogger BREN said...

Terror is used because terror work's
The only way to stop terror is to make it" counter productive "
They ask you to liberate some of theyr " militant "
Execute them
They ask you to retire your troops
Increase your troops number
They ask money
Freeze or seize every cent you can lay your hands on
And so on
The purpose is that the terrorist must come to a point where every action they make bring's the opposite of what they wantbxbzg

2/19/2007 08:37:00 AM  
Blogger jj mollo said...

Bren, You have the right idea, but for the specifics. Such tactics will be used against us. If we can be relied on, like the Israelis are, to fight tit for tat, enemy A can hurt us in the guise of enemy B in order to induce us to strike against enemy B. In Iraq, tribal vengeance is sometimes satisfied by a trusted source calling for a US air strike against an "Al Qaeda" safehouse. Oops.

Yes, it would be nice if we were smart enough to see through these tricks, but sometimes we won't. That's why our targeting strategy is so cautious. I don't know what we're going to do to identify the perp when an unknown nuke goes off in Omaha. If it came indirectly from Russia will we bomb the Russians?

2/19/2007 09:05:00 AM  
Blogger allen said...

DR has posted the link to a cartoon on an Elephant Bar thread, which speaks to the quality of friendship that exists between the Egyptian government and the American people.

Al-Ahram

I hope I may be forgiven when I point out that these are contemptible swine and bigoted, racist, xenophobic bastards. Of course, that’s just one man’s opinion.

MEMRI

While on the MEMRI site, do have a look at the recent behavior of our Turkish “friends”.

Turkish PM to Again Invite Hamas Leaders to Turkey
To be fair, Mr. Olmert might invite Hamas to lunch, any day now. For Israelis, however, the relationship of Hamas and Israel’s ME neighbors is deeply troubling.

***

2/19/2007 09:33:00 AM  
Blogger allen said...

After reading and posting on this yesterday elsewhere, it occurred to me that maybe the troops might have a few questions about their “friends” in the bloggosphere. Has anyone here seen this covered by any of the major conservative and/or milbloggers?
Soldiers Face Neglect, Frustration At Army's Top Medical Facility

***

2/19/2007 11:36:00 AM  
Blogger Mike H. said...

jj mollo, you say "Such tactics will be used against us."

Could you help us by identifying which tactics haven't been used against us that would be used if we initiated the process first? Decapitation? loss of limbs? Setting second bombs to catch first aid providers? Going after children? There must be some evil or element of terror that they can instigate that would constrain us in our reaction against them.

The point that I'm trying to make is that as long as we are in a moot phase considering what unpleasantries can be instituted against us we'll ignore the fact that they already are.

I've built up a maxim that I probably stole from someone else. It goes like this, there are fifty million ways to do something right. There is only one intuitive way to do something wrong and that's to sit around and argue about which right way should be used. That's why committees report to an executive. Executives impart some form of action and discussion stops, regardless of the nondebilitating but quite real consequences.

2/19/2007 01:29:00 PM  
Blogger Wir für Sie said...

Dittmarkooperation
Ess- und Kochklasse
Eventmanagement
Freelancer Markt
Freelancer in Mitteldeutschland

Freelancerangebote
Kochklasse
Mietkoch- und Gastronomieservice
Partyservice in Halle
Partyservice
Profikochschule

Profikochschulen
Showkoch
The Vision Of Sound
Warum werben wir
Der Gründerweg
Eventkoch-Ausbildung

Showkoch-Ausbildung
Eventkoch-Weiterbildung
Showkoch-Weiterbildung
KMU Service

2/19/2007 02:22:00 PM  
Blogger jj mollo said...

Mike H,

Yes, I recognize that our enemies are already doing everything they can to hurt us. What I'm saying is that they also use tactics to make us hurt people who don't specifically deserve it. If you are going to toss artillery at every gun that fires, Sunnis will start shooting at us from Shiite neighborhoods and vice versa.

2/19/2007 02:41:00 PM  
Blogger Pierre Legrand said...

Yes, it would be nice if we were smart enough to see through these tricks, but sometimes we won't. That's why our targeting strategy is so cautious. I don't know what we're going to do to identify the perp when an unknown nuke goes off in Omaha. If it came indirectly from Russia will we bomb the Russians?

That is a recipe for inaction. There is no way to know all the time whether we are hitting innocents...in past wars that simply was considered part of the cost of winning, innocents die. In France many thousands died who were not our enemies, it did not cause the French to rise up and fight against the landings at Normandy.

Hit the enemy hard, repeatedly, and try to help the innocents when you have won the war or perhaps the battle.

2/19/2007 04:46:00 PM  
Blogger Harrison said...

papa bear wrote: The United States has lots of experience in fighting the tribal way of war, internally.

Judging from our history of fighting wars, the nation also has lots of experience with amnesia. With each new conflict, we learn and relearn old doctrines and strategies which were once seared into the minds of ancient combatants while they were sacrificing life and limb on the battlefield. It was a tough price to pay, but you know your enemy best when you are down there in the grime and dirt, staring him eye to eye.

Just like the French learnt the counterinsurgency lesson in Algeria, so did we in Vietnam, albeit at a very high cost. And now we are learning those very lessons again. Deja vu? None of the sort - because those at the top echelons see no reason to retain the essence of strategies when they are faced with the bewildering fanciness of technology and tactics.

allen wrote: There are those who would say that prior to 2003 Iraq was a nation-state and not a proxy. It occurs to me that Iraq was both a nation-state and a proxy.

With the advantage of hindsight, Iraq was indeed a proxy to some extent - as a regional counterweight to Iran: secularism against religious fanaticism, Sunni against Shiite, biological weaponry against biological weaponry. The idea that our "friends" in Europe would have perceived Iraq as a proxy to keep up the containment strategy in Iraq - a costly one that has only grown more so - is an intriguing one. Some observers are already labelling the time-period from the Gulf War to present as a prolonged containment strategy against Iraq. But it deceives the uncritical eye: prior to 2003, we were attempting to keep elements from within Iraq from proliferating throughout the region; now, we are in the much trickier process of keeping elements from without from permeating into Iraq.

I hope I may be forgiven when I point out that these are contemptible swine and bigoted, racist, xenophobic bastards. Of course, that’s just one man’s opinion.

You are not alone. But is Mubarak or the Brotherhood the greater sinner? Who would you prefer to work with? Granted one would suggest that with the Brotherhood firmly implanted on the Egyptian throne, there would be absolutely no doubt as to the insidious nature of their intentions, giving us credence to confront them. But look at Hamas.

2/19/2007 06:56:00 PM  
Blogger Db2m said...

Yeah you right, Teresita, the horseback Army slaughtered them all.

But note, they didn't roast them alive over camp fires, nor hack their corpses to bits.

2/19/2007 07:21:00 PM  
Blogger Meme chose said...

Actually this stuff is not inevitable. Very few people try it against the Russians, for example. Nobody tries it against the North Koreans, or the Cubans.

It's because we transmit the impression that we might give in to it that they bomb us.

2/19/2007 07:52:00 PM  
Blogger What is "Occupation" said...

pork rinds for allah...

mock the bastards

make fun of mohammed

call him a child molester

call them dogs

throw bacon bits on the door steps of mosques

have "i drink beer parties" to tell islam to shove it.

it's time to hurt islamics where it hurts, not the body, buy the miind.

they must be insulted, mocked, ridiculed and more...

2/19/2007 07:55:00 PM  
Blogger Mike H. said...

jj, a modicum of restraint is fine, but when control over strategy and tactics is handed to the enemy because we're afraid to commit collateral damage, we've lost the war. As has been said there will always be collateral damage, what we in the present age have done is to restrict it to an unbelievably miniscule amount compared to previous wars.
One more thing to consider is that the majority of the collateral damage is committed by the enemy, consider that and you have a picture of the war that isn't brought out by the M$M.

2/19/2007 08:40:00 PM  
Blogger Stephen Renico said...

Harrison said: "Judging from our history of fighting wars, the nation also has lots of experience with amnesia. With each new conflict, we learn and relearn old doctrines and strategies which were once seared into the minds of ancient combatants while they were sacrificing life and limb on the battlefield."

I wrote a piece on America's inability to understand and play cutthroat politics here.

To anyone who bothers to click the link, it's amazing the things one can find in old, out of print books, eh?

2/20/2007 04:42:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

Collateral damage is what wins wars.

Not whack a mole

2/20/2007 06:33:00 AM  
Blogger exhelodrvr said...

D R,
"Collateral damage is what wins wars."

Only if you include infrastructure. Defeating the ability of the enemy to take effective actions is what makes them quit, not how the civilians are suffering.

2/20/2007 12:13:00 PM  
Blogger Sardonic said...

The Arab Muslims are on a war of conquest, having determined that the West has become weakenned by Liberalism. They believe that the West is now governed by sissies and appeasers who will allow them to savagely brutalize whomever they damn well please. Having Nuclear Weapons is no deterence at all if you prove that you are unwilling to use them. When we were first attacked on 911 there was a brief (three day) period where the world had no clue what was really going on or what would happen next - and that was the time to nuke the enemy. Which one? I didn't matter. Could have been Iraq. Could have been Iran. Could have been Libia or Egypt or off the coast of the Persian Gulf. It need not have killed anyone. But it would have said in very certain terms: Back off you stupid F*cks because the next one is going to land on your f*cking head. Get it?

Had we done that then we would not be watching a rising tide of Islam today. Period.

However, the lilly-livered Liberals who hate America and George Bush above all things would have spent the next 100 years decrying the "injustice". For that there is no cure. Ignore it and move on.

Rest assured, the Arabs in their infinite wisdom will provide more opportunities for the "ultimate response".

2/20/2007 12:34:00 PM  
Blogger info said...

Dittmarkooperation Ess- und Kochklasse Eventmanagement Freelancer Markt Freelancer in Mitteldeutschland Freelancerangebote Kochklasse Mietkoch- und Gastronomieservice Partyservice in Halle Partyservice Profikochschule Profikochschulen Showkoch The Vision Of Sound Warum werben wir Der GründerwegEventkoch-AusbildungShowkoch-AusbildungEventkoch-WeiterbildungShowkoch-WeiterbildungKMU Service

2/21/2007 01:59:00 AM  
Blogger info said...


http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel1.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel10.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel11.htm
http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel12.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel13.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel14.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel15.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel16.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel17.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel18.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel19.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel2.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel20.htm
http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel21.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel22.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel23.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel24.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel3.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel5.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel6.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel7.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.deartikel9.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/event1.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/event2.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/event2-1.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/event2-2.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/event2-3.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/event2-3.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/event2-4.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/event2-5.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/event4.htm
http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/eventmange.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/gastro1.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/gastro2.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/gastro3.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/gastro4.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/gastronomie.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/hauptseite.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/kontakt.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/mietkoch.htm
http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/mietkoch1.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/mietkoch2.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/mietkoch3.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/mietkoch4.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/mietkoch5.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/mietkoch6.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/mps.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/mps1.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/mps2.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/mps3.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/mps4.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/mps5.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/navigation.php
http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/party1.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/party2.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/party3.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/party4.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/party5.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/party6.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/partyservice.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/presse1.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/presse2.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/radio.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/referenzen.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/regalle-a.php

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/struktur.htm


href="http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/Torgau_Audi_Kartheuser.htm">http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/Torgau_Audi_Kartheuser.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/video.htm


http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/vitae.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/wissensmenage.htm

http://www.dittmarkooperation.de/wissensmenage1.htm

2/21/2007 02:05:00 AM  
Blogger info said...

Wir über uns |
Presse |
Gästebuch |
Referenzen |
Bildergalerie |
Kontakt
Impressum

Preise
Privatkoch
Eventkoch / Showkoch
Messekoch
Kochkurse
Zielgruppe Küchenstudios
Zielgruppe Sonstige
Corporate Events
Preise
Personalpool
Speisekartenerstellung
Personalhunter
Restaurant und Hoteltester
Familienfeiern
2006
2005
2004
Kochschule No 1 Kartheuser und Traichel
Individuelle Buffets für jeden Anlass
Kochen exclusiv bei Licht & Design Halle
Crossmarketing Audi contra Küchenstudio

Designo Nacht Dresden

Eventmanagement Halle
GastronomieService Halle
Mietkoch,Showkoch,Eventkoch
Catering und Partyservice

2/21/2007 02:06:00 AM  
Blogger Vinayak said...

Thanks for the post

Your post made me think of common challenges to communities both India and Pakistan

Diversity or not, religious difference or not, radical feminism is no spreading across boundaries and borders

for e.g. India and Pakistan may have their similarities and differences, but the Domestic Violence act of both countries is SURPRISINGLY SIMILAR and a family breaker

Probably modelled on the WAWA, a US / western radical feminist phenomenon, the new domestic violence act in the Sub continent is bound to break families

Have a look at this article below and you will understand the truth

http://evinayak.rediffiland.com/scripts/xanadu_diary_view.php?postId=1178610863

regards
Vinayak

5/08/2007 01:53:00 AM  

Post a Comment

Links to this post:

Create a Link

<< Home


Powered by Blogger