Alas, Poor Yorick, I Knew Him Well!
The Brussels Journal makes the astounding claim that the "most popular name for newborn boys in Brussels, the 'capital of Europe,' in 2005 [is] Mohamed, followed by Adam, Ayoub, Rayan and Mehdi". Naturally reading claims like that forces a double-take, but following the link to the Belgian statistics page shows he is quite right. Yasmine, Aya and Rania aren't doing too badly in the girls department either.
| Rang | Meisjes | Rang | Jongens | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Voornaam | Aantal | Voornaam | Aantal | |||
| 1 | Sarah | 112 | 1 | Mohamed | 206 | |
| 2 | Lina | 90 | 2 | Adam | 105 | |
| 3 | Yasmine | 72 | 3 | Ayoub | 76 | |
| 4 | Aya | 71 | 4 | Rayan | 75 | |
| 5 | Rania | 71 | 5 | Mehdi | 73 | |
| 6 | Imane | 63 | 6 | Ilias | 65 | |
| 7 | Clara | 60 | 7 | Lucas | 62 | |
| 8 | Emma | 58 | 8 | Zakaria | 59 | |
| 9 | Inès | 55 | 9 | Nathan | 58 | |
| Laura | 55 | 10 | Nicolas | 57 | ||
Nieuwsflits n°79 Overzicht van de populairste voornamen van baby's in 2005
posted by Wretchard at 12/07/2006 06:58:00 PM
17 Comments:
So, are immigrant female names much less uniform than male names, or is there some removal of females from the ranks of the newlyborn?
There's been nothing new about this for some time. The same has been true even for the area around Nice (France, Cote d'Azur) for several years now.
Richer, more educated and influential Europeans don't feel their lifestyle is threatened by this (it's actually underwritten by the cheap household help so much immigration makes possible). Ordinary Europeans, who are really frozen out of any political say by their 'betters', just hang in there focusing on their holidays and their pensions.
It could, of course, be that the idigenes have greater variety in their names, thus reducing the popularity of any one of them.
But then again...
ADE
ADE wrote, "It could, of course, be that the idigenes have greater variety in their names, thus reducing the popularity of any one of them."
Before you can pick a baby's name, you have to flush the condoms, birth control pills, morning-after pills, abortion referrals, and actually carry a baby to term. Europe is turning into a giant Seattle, where the yuppies set aside park after park for their beloved dogs but frown on moms with baby strollers (who are usually out-of-towners) for contributing to overpopulation.
WC,
It's worse than that.
They insist on inflicting their boring stories about their cats/dogs on you. The opprobrium you get when they ask you "Do you prefer cats or dogs" and you reply "All depends on how they are cooked" just about makes up for it, though.
But how anybody could call their child Mohommad in this day and age is beyond me.
ADE
WC,
Who are you quoting about stuff in Seattle?
In Egypt, at least, Ahmed (or Ahmad) is a significantly more common name than Muhammad. I don't know about other Islamic countries. Does anyone have a good idea what Ahmed's absence from this list signifies?
Sammler,
I was about to say "wain Ahmed" ("where is Ahmed" in Arabic)?
In the UAE, in a crowd of guys yell "Ya Mohd" and half will turn their heads, yell "Ya Ahmed" and the other half turns their heads.
wretchard,
Your Xenophobia is showing.
I try to take what you write seriously but you do yourself a disservice when you take a region in Brussels that contains only 10% of the population on .53% of its land surface and you point out that the most popular babies name is Mohamed. Is this a representative of your understanding of the use of statistics in analysis?
Here's a list on the top ten names in Bahgdad last year.
Boys:
1. George
2. Dick
3. Donald
4. Colin
5. Scooter
6. Areil
7. Jeb
8. Leo
9. Moqtada
10. Joe
Ash:
When you're the canary (Wretchard) in the coal mine, that's not xenophobia -- that's called doing your damn job.
What . . . when it reaches 35% of the population, will that suffice for you? Has your statistical sophistication ever contemplated trends?
It is hard not to admire your industry, Ash.
May Christ linger over it at least a moment before consigning you to throat-high boiling shit.
Alas, whither the Belgian and Trappist style ales and beers?
chsw10605
Kevin - Your post was humorless bullshit. Top male names are for famous martyrs - famous killers revered in Muslim culture. Few Saddams or Osamas, though...that likely would be enough to get a Shiite death squad to take a power drill to the baby's skull.
Ash - Calling early concern about a shift in demographic control and a profound alteration in culture and society "xenophobic" is like calling Native Americans greatly outnumbered, frequently massacred, and displaced to reservations in 19th Century America "silly".
It's the writing on the wall, boy.
And even the most foolish Lefties are beginning to reconsider their insistance on multi-culti dogma that implies they will be just as happy as Dhimmis under future Muslim demographic dominance as they are now.
WC/ADE - I've met childless couples that humanize their pets to a pathetic degree. Or single woman. One "professional woman" I work with is at her wit's end because one of her 4 dogs is suffering from cancer and is undergoing a new round of chemo...and she is trying to get more time off to "be with the dog". The dog is 17 years old, and she admits to 8500 in vet and dogsitter bills so far.
It's kind of sad...
But she WAS the 1st female named department head of engineering design..children would have held her back...her legacy is a readily forgettable job title and a pack of old dying dogs getting better medical care that 1/7th of American humans too poor to afford it but to rich for the care given free to indigents, prisoners and illegals can get.
Yeah, kind of sad..
Cedarford,
Using such a small sample area and babies first names as a variable to project larger demographic trends is absurd. There are any number of explanations for the name Mohammed to be the first choice. Dense populations...slum...place where new immigrants tend to settle maybe? New immigrants, sunni in particular, chose Mohammed over all others. Tons of reasonable explanations to describe that result aside from the conclusion that "MUSLIMS ARE A DEMOGRAPHIC TIME BOMB ENGULFING EUROPE!!"
Take a look at the boys' names for the whole of Belgium in 2005. There are about 30,000 boys bearing the top 100 names. Of these about 1,000 have Muslim names (Mohamad, Ilias, Mehdi Rayan). I assume half the Adams are Muslim.
That means about three per cent of baby boys are Muslim if the distribution of names outside the top 100 is the same as inside it.
For what it's worth, according to the Social Security files, Mohamed was number 475 in the U.S. list of most popular names for newborn boys in 2005.
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