Saturday, September 02, 2006

L'État, c'est moi

Global Guerillas has a piece about the 'mercenary industry', continuing its focus on 4th Generation Warfare. It says the proliferation of private security agencies in Iraq "serves as yet another sign of the return of the pre-Westphalian warfare" and advises watching the documentary "Shadow Company" by Nick Bicanic and Jason Bourque, which has solid interviews with industry insiders/pundits/analysts like Robert Young Pelton, Doug Brooks, and Peter Singer" as an introduction into the phenomenon. Chester has been on the subject of privatized warfare before. He wondered whether the Supreme Court's Hamdan decision didn't go some way towards putting nonstate combatants on par with states. He wrote in an essay for Pajamas Media that:

Hamdan’s main focus was trial by military commission, but one of its most important side-effects is that it seems to grant a recognition to a non-state organization without territory, an identifiable system of government, and lacking any legal mechanism capable of ratifying the Geneva Convention. Yet it is covered by the Geneva Convention. One must ask what other types of non-state or private organizations could achieve this sort of legal recognition if al-Qaeda could?

Going by recent events in Lebanon, Hezbollah has achieved a stature and de-facto recognition that many states would envy. It's funny how Hezbollah and other terrorist groups, though receiving money and training from states to attack other states (called "proxy warfare") are never referred to as "mercenaries". Instapundit has a post on Darfur looking at the issue not merely through the usual Islamist/nonIslamist prism, but in the context of the UN's condemnation of the right to self defense. Reynold's post says:

DARFUR UPDATE: "In the face of ongoing genocide in Darfur, the international community's failure to accept the 'responsibility to protect' (that's United Nations language, officially adopted) innocent civilian lives has taken its last, abject form. The National Islamic Front (NIF) regime in Khartoum, made up of the very men who have for more than three years orchestrated the systematic destruction of Darfur's African tribal populations, has been told directly and unambiguously that there will be no U.N. peacemaking force without its consent." Kind of puts the U.N.'s disavowal of a right to self-defense in perspective, doesn't it?

The UN's 'disavowal of self-defense' highlights the muddle into which thinking on state/nonstate actors has fallen. The UN argues that people have no legal right to defend themselves and those matters should be left to the state. The state? If Khartoum can can use the nonstate Janjaweed militia in Darfur and Iran can use the Hezbollah in Lebanon, what sense does it really make for the UN to argue that individuals cannot privately defend themselves?


Blogger Doug said...


9/02/2006 05:08:00 PM  
Blogger NahnCee said...

Would the UN itself be a state or a nonstate actor? It presumes to tell us what to do, up to and including attempting to override our Constitution, so surely at a minimum it's an "actor".

9/02/2006 05:15:00 PM  
Blogger The Mad Fiddler said...

Things will get very interesting when the left (there really are some sufficiently hostile ones... look at Demokratischer Untergrund) in Amerikkka start creating groups to contend with the folks trained by Blackwater...

9/02/2006 05:24:00 PM  
Blogger wretchard said...

The State monopoly on the use of violence to enforce justice, like all monopolies, is tolerable only for as long as it works reasonably well. When it begins to fail due to political correctness or inefficiency, a black market for security will emerge. People who have followed Iraq the Model will note how "neighborhood patrols" soon begin to emerge where the state is perceived as being unable to provide security. The "Minutemen" on the southern border derives largely from the perception that the border patrol has failed.

Hamstringing law enforcement with PC rules then reacting to the resulting public disappointment with magisterial pronouncements about the sole of legitimacy residing in the state has the effect of disempowering those who would trust the state and empowering those who would subvert it. Hence the bizarre phenomenon of laws which only restrict the law abiding, while scofflaws are more less left to scoff.

On an international scale the result is Darfur, where only the sleeping lifeguard is authorized to save the drowning man who, though capable of swimming, is prohibited from doing so.

9/02/2006 05:38:00 PM  
Blogger RWE said...

"...Hezbollah has achieved a stature and de-facto recognition that many states would envy."

Envy indeed. Yesterday I saw a news report to the effect that a group would be investigating Israel's alleged war crimes against civilians in Lebanon, but the group would NOT be investigating Hezbolahs's killing of Israeli civilians.

When the U.S. Army took the first German city to be encountered by the Allies in WWII, Aachen, the German forces barricated themselves in the city's old opera house to make their last stand. With a massively constructed stone building as their fortress, surrounded by open areas that offered excellent fields of fire, the well-stocked Germans thought they could hold out for an extended period.

And then the Army brought in a self propelled 155MM artillery piece, and using the unheard-of tactic of direct fire with such a weapon, and at point blank range, proceeded to knock the opera house down around the Germans ears.

In the face of such brutish unsporting opposition, the German general surrendered his forces - and then stated that the use of such artillery in direct fire applications should be outlawed.

Funny what looks like a war crime when you are an NGO - or a Nazi - doesn't it?

9/02/2006 05:44:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

One of these shows a man in Nogales that has illegals going through his yard every nite.
Has had them in his house 3-4 times.
Military Times staff writer Michelle Tan and photographer James J. Lee arrived in Nogales, Ariz. August 20 and are covering the National Guard’s Operation Jump Start for four days.
Read their blog.
• Audio slideshow: ‘Border Guards’

• Audio slideshow: ‘An Unending Hunt’

• Audio slideshow: ‘Across the Fence’

9/02/2006 05:51:00 PM  
Blogger Pyrthroes said...

Forget national-state military establishments. Contract soldiering out to properly equipped and trained bodies of specialized super-troops, tasked with hunting down and killing designated targets and their leaders.

Criteria for targeting would be "Outlawing"-- declaring a specific group and its adherents, by whatever name, outside the bounds of civilized society. No constraints, no behavioural norms... the idea of terrorist murderers using ambulances, dressing in opponents' uniforms, justifies any and all responses.

Contract "posses", Special Forces or whatever --akin to (let's face it) paramilitary death-squads-- will be cheap, effective, ruthless as was the Soviet KGB in retaliating for murdered Russian diplomats through the late 1970s. You want a shadow war, without a grain of civilized compunction or regret? You got it, kids, and by the way-- Westerners have never lost that battle yet.

You may think Eurabia is a done deal, but surprise! At tipping points, we'll take leaves from your own book. Allah has forsaken you and your abominable conceits for lo! these thousand years. Mullah-cracies from Marrakesh to Zamboanga definitely need a dash of realism, straight.

9/02/2006 05:51:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

“If they come in they should be legal,” he said. “When I lived in their country I had to be legal. I lived in Mexico for seven years.”

Husemann said he’s had illegal crossers run into his house looking for help. He plans to build fences around his property.

“It’s just like a prison,” he said. “It’s getting to the point where the government should be doing something about it but they’re not.”

9/02/2006 05:57:00 PM  
Blogger The Mad Fiddler said...

The SCOTUS Hamdan decision in effect is a genuflection toward the pre-eminence of a supranational treaty, and may very well come back to be used to argue that domestic anti-government groups within the territorial United States are fully protected by the terms of the Geneva Conventions.

9/02/2006 06:46:00 PM  
Blogger The Mad Fiddler said...

Dear Doug,

Regarding your post on Michelle Tan and James J. Lee in "Military Times..."

Anyone remember how we cheered the people risking their lives trying to escape East Berlin?

Of course, the East Berlin Soldiers were under standing orders to use lethal force, there were land mines, electrified fences, and vicious attack dogs to KEEP THE EAST GERMANS PRISONER IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY!

(hat/tip to my dear brother, the seriously annoyed guitarist...)

9/02/2006 06:54:00 PM  
Blogger Lawrence T. PETER said...


(8/15/2005 04:20:13 PM)

I wrote, inter alia:

"I am not convinced that USAF C-17's airlifting Ruwandan troops to Darfur is an efficient and economical use of taxpayer dollars, nor do I believe that the Ruwandian troops will, at the end of the day, perform in such a manner as to end the genocide in Western Sudan. Now, others may disagree, but I bet for much less than the the amount of US Dollars $$ that it costs to induce the Ruwandan government to participate in the peacekeeping effort, to equip the troops and to pay for the C-17 flight hours it takes to fly them there, a Private Security Company could establish a safe and secure environment open to inspection by the international community."

And now, as Paul Harvey would say, we know the rest of the story.

As the Brits know from from Lieutenant-General Wm "Billy" Hicks' experience almost 123 years ago in Kordofan region of Sudan, it can be an unforgiving place for the unprepared. And yet, the disadvantaged of DARFUR cry out. I guess we could say that it is not our (the US, the European, the united assembly of nations, in whatever configuration) problem. But the U.N. is not dissuaded, and for that matter, neither am I. On Thursday, 31 Aug, the U.N. voted to place a 22,500 man force of troops, police, engineers and others into Darfur. Can you believe it? The 7,000 African Union troops weren't able to do the job--not that there was ever a belief that they could.

Dr Shelby Steele (1) would attribute the West's approach to guilt, suggesting a stigmatization with the evil of the Western past keeps the US in particular and other western powers in general, from using the full force of their power. I know his writings have been interpreted by some as gobbledygook, but I think he is on to something.

With regard to Darfur, others may disagree, but I believe a Private Security Company (2) could establish a safe and secure environment open to inspection by the international community (in Darfur). After all, the United Nations is not going there to make war, is it? Golly, a PSC sure as heck could deploy more quickly. And, might I ask, with the UNIFIL deployment ongoing, just where does the UN think 22,500 troops are going to come from?

One other point, media coverage of PSC efforts in Iraq is beset by many of the same inaccuracies that follow the militaries' efforts there. Reporters often develop story lines from second and third hand sources. When reporters actually investigate, it is in effort to validate a preconceived meme.


9/02/2006 07:08:00 PM  
Blogger rufus said...

I saw a jihadi with a Chinese menu in his hand
Walking through the streets of Soho in the rain
He was looking for a place called Lee Ho Fook’s
Going to get himself a big dish of beef chow mein
Ah-oo, Jihadis of London!

H/T to commenter at Tim Blair.

9/02/2006 07:21:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

I'm confused:
You saying the residents of Nogales should welcome them into their yards and homes?

9/02/2006 07:28:00 PM  
Blogger The Mad Fiddler said...

No, just saddened by the irony.

Both Bush (41) and Clinton intercepted Haitians in their leaky boats in international waters and sent'em back to Haiti, and no one raised any serious challenge to their authority to do so.

I think it takes a hell of a lot of commitment to brave hundreds of miles of shark-infested waters in a bitty little boat to relocate for a better job.

You might think that is a fairly motivated job applicant.

just in a fugue state tonight...

9/02/2006 07:33:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Problem with the border jumpers is that they include significant numbers of serial molesters, murderers, drug runners, welfare cheats, insurance scam artists and etc.
...and a sorely lacking education, and now with multiculturalism dominant, desire to assimilate.
Unlike previous first gen offspring, these new arrivals are decidedly not all upwardly mobile.

9/02/2006 07:39:00 PM  
Blogger rufus said...

Fiddler, that's the beauty of America. We get the Strongest and the Bravest. Every immigrant group that's come here has spent it's time in the barrel. Italians, Jews, Irish, Germans - it was always the same. Did I mention the Cubans? Remember when Castro emptied out his jails and insane asylums, and sent them over.

Even the previous Cuban immigres said it was terrible, that the Marielitos were a disaster, a scourge on America, and would never make it. Look at them now.

We, always, spit on the latest batch, declare the end of Culture and Society as we know it, all the while using their "cheap" labor, and threatening to deport them at any moment; but, we never do. Instead we loan them money to start small businesses, school their children, call their sons and daughters "Doctor, and Counselor," and call their grand-children Senator and Justice.

Every small village and town in Mexico, as we speak, is awaiting the return of the favored son and daughter that went to the "States," to make some money to send home. They will send the money, but they will stay.

No wonder the world hates America.

9/02/2006 07:45:00 PM  
Blogger Habu_3 said...

With regard to private armies ie, Vennel Corp, Blackwater. the US Constitution does make provisions for such.


Letters of Marque and Reprisal are grants of authority from Congress to private citizens, not the President. Their purpose is to expressly authorize seizure and forfeiture of goods by such citizens in the context of undeclared hostilities. Without such authorization, the citizen could be treated under international law as a pirate. Occasions where one's citizens undertake hostile activity can often entangle the larger sovereignty, and therefore, it was sensible for Congress to desire to have a regulatory check upon it. Authorizing Congress to moderate or oversee private action, however, says absolutely nothing about the President's responsibilities under the Constitution.
So said the Dean of Columbia Law Shool in Congressional testimony 2002.
I say that the issue in law has not been fully established and that the Congress should grant them to much greater numbers of individuals (corporations) than they do.
Then we can really get it on.

9/02/2006 07:52:00 PM  
Blogger rufus said...

Remember the old boy who kept converting buicks into boats, and trying to sail (Power) them to Fla?

What did he try? Two, three, four times? Well, guess what? He's working as a mechanic at a chevy dealership in Miami, and driving a new Chevy SUV.

He said he was always "partial" to General Motors Products. They were more "Seaworthy." :)

9/02/2006 07:54:00 PM  
Blogger trangbang68 said...

Press Release from Al Billboard of Goathumpistan:

You must be listening to the new recording by Goat Yousef.When he was the infidel Unclean Animal Stevens,Yousef sang foolish sentimental ditties for men who shamefully wore their hair like women and their vile unvirgins.Now that he has embraced the Prophet(bless his name),Yousef has written stirring anthems to Jihad such as:

"Ooh Fatima its a Kuffir world
Better cover your ankles and wear your Burkha ,girl.

or :Semtex in the cradle and the silver detonator
Baby will be in paradise when he kills the Crusaders
Mahdi's gonna come but we don't know when
We'll kill the Jews till then boys
You know we'll kill the Jews till then...
You must be hearing it.

9/02/2006 07:57:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Here's a story about an exceptional case, exceptional Parents.
...along with some very sad statistics that prove Rufus wrong.
(as do health, welfare, education, and crime figures)
This is not the same country it was when previous immigrants came, Rufus, them's the facts. Limbaugh's wise granpa schooled him on your perspective.
He followed that for years until all the on the ground FACTS taught him different.
For senior Luz Elena Gutierrez, that path wound through hallways crowded with dispirited peers, around inexperienced teachers and veterans disillusioned by experience, over economic obstacles seldom faced by middle-class children, to the spotlight on stage at tonight's graduation as Fremont's valedictorian for the Class of 2006.

Almost 500 students will cross the stage with her.
But more than 100 of them will receive a certificate of completion instead of a diploma; they had the grades to graduate but could not pass the state exit exam.
And 1,500 of her freshman classmates will not be present; they left Fremont during the four years leading to graduation.
"At a school like this, guys get pressured to do a lot of things … gangs, drugs.

She chose her friends as carefully as she picked her courses: like-minded girls who met under the big tree on the quad for lunch and to discuss calculus, college applications and leads on financial aid.

It is no coincidence, she says, that all 10 of Fremont's top seniors are girls. "At a school like this, guys get pressured to do a lot of things … gangs, drugs. Boys make fun of you if you do your work. Girls don't have that kind of pressure."

9/02/2006 07:57:00 PM  
Blogger whit said...

Hardly the Global Village

This post and the Ralph Peters column on devolution to tribalism are a sad commentary on today's global society. Globalism attempts to interconnect and unify an ever smaller world as it splinters and slips into the new dark ages of vigilantism, private security concerns and vassal fiefdoms.

What would Marshall McCluhan do?

9/02/2006 08:01:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

That's 400 out of 2000 that graduate, Rufus, 1600 don't.
We only need so many non-educated folks.
...and please address this:
Half of California's prison population are illegals!
To pretend Calif. does not have serious problems just because you don't, is to ignore reality.

9/02/2006 08:05:00 PM  
Blogger NahnCee said...

When it begins to fail due to political correctness or inefficiency, a black market for security will emerge.

A year or so ago, before I knew he was Aussie rather than Yank, I was lecturing Wretchard on vigilante justice and posse's and how that sort of reaction had won the West quite nicely, thank you very much.

At that point, he was aghast at the prospect of lawlessness and/or citizenry presuming to take the law into our own hands.

Now it appears that he's aghast that The Law has been hamstrung to the point where there is no one left BUT citizens to go after the various Bad Guys, whether they're coming after us burbling "Allah u Akbar!" or "hasta la vista, baby".

Too bad no one is willing to arm the citizens who are becoming dead in Sudan.

9/02/2006 08:05:00 PM  
Blogger The Mad Fiddler said...

Thanks Rufus, I was just about to ask about the Marielitos. I know there were some real hard cases among those. As I recall from some of the news reports from the time, U.S. authorities were able to track down and arrest a lot of the worst rapists, murderers, bullies and thugs.

Hey, Look at AUSTRALIA and SOUTH CAROLINA... Penal Colonies.

Now in Oz people take as much pride in tracing their descent back to a British convict shipped from the Old Bailey, as Daughters of the American Revolution do in their Mayflower connections.

I suspect that my family has a lot more rustlers, poachers and freelance distillers in our background than any other sort.



Sheep shaggers.

independent, self-sufficient...

"Sod the Aristocrats!"

9/02/2006 08:06:00 PM  
Blogger Habu_3 said...

It has been a frequent question of mine, but rarely answered.Perhaps it is too harsh a penalty but we are being INVADED at the rate of 410,000 per year. Most are criminals in their own countries and lately the AQ have been infiltrating via the SW USA.
Up at Quang Tri and Con Thein near on the DMZ there was the "McNamara Line", a bulldozed 800 yard wide killing zone. Why not the same thing on our southern border? You enter illegally, you're shot. If dead you're carried back across the border to Mexico and the coyotes eat your body. If wounded you are taken back to the Mexican border where you try to keep the coyotes from eating you.
Plus it's great marksmanship training, shooting at moving targets.

9/02/2006 08:11:00 PM  
Blogger whit said...

From wikipedia:
The British used North America as a penal Colony through the system of indentured servants. Most notably, the Province of Georgia was originally designed as a penal colony. Convicts would be transported by private sector merchants and auctioned off to plantation owners upon arrival in the colonies. It is estimated that some 50,000 British convicts were banished to colonial America, representing perhaps one-quarter of all British emigrants during the eighteenth century.

9/02/2006 08:14:00 PM  
Blogger whit said...

trangbang, 7:57:

That is clever. Is that original? Very funny, catchy tunes

oooo Fatima,

9/02/2006 08:20:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

There was no welfare state, in state tuition for illegals, free medical care, and etc Fiddler:
Apples and Oranges.

9/02/2006 08:21:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

ALL So Los Angeles Emergency Rooms have been CLOSED!
Can you argue that's a good thing?

9/02/2006 08:22:00 PM  
Blogger Habu_3 said...

I read in some posts positions that were taken early on in the Iran discussions. "Hey, what risk are they, or they fill jobs etc.)

We can get wobbly defending terra firma that people can walk across to get to us. On two sides we have large oceans and few have been able to navigate 410,000 per year to ur shores. Hell how many troops did we land at Normandy on D-Day?
Mexico is unravelling as we write, ripe for Chavez's influence to take hold...then we got serious problems ....kill the illegals after they've touched our soil.
And as far as one running into my home seeking help ... Remington 870 over and over.

9/02/2006 08:24:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

As biologists would say:
The selection pressure then was intense, but like so many other things, the reverse is now true:
Reward the worst.

9/02/2006 08:25:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

"And as far as one running into my home seeking help..."
As long as it is someone ELSES Room, Rufus and Fiddler are fine with that.
The New Agers roam the Club.
Free Love! Open Borders! Free Lunch!

9/02/2006 08:27:00 PM  
Blogger rufus said...

Quang Tri, Con Thien - I been there. You know the image that sticks with me the most? A little girl about seven or eight, rummaging through the garbage dump.

It was a hell of a "War."

Doug, it was obviously an inner-city school, but, are you sure that all 2000 were Hispanics?

Doug, I don't want to get into an argument with you over this. I know you are right, to some extent, but I'm just a little softer than you are. I'll tell you this; it's not going to work out exactly as you (or I) would want it, but it'll work out OK.

BTW, your 50% illegals number is wrong, though. Hispanic, probably about right. They make up almost that percentage of total pop. in LA. The State of California doesn't track prisoners by legal/illegal citizenship status.

Anyway, it probably is time to call a slow-down on this particular bunch, and that's exactly what's going to happen. However, those that's here are stayin; you can bet on it.

My mother had some cock n bull story about the "Dove," or some such, but I'm pretty danged sure my dad's folks (the ones that weren't of the indigenous -read Cherokee - variety came in-country a little bit farther south than that, if you catch my drift. South Carolina as close as I can figure it.

They seemed to be movin kind of fast, and not leavin much of a "paper trail" by the time they got to the mid-south. hmmm ...

9/02/2006 08:40:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

The Mexican Pawns are being used by slimes like this in DC:
IV. The Dangerous Effect of Section 240D and Section 154

Buried deeply in the Senate Bill is a provision would disarm America’s state and local police in the war against terrorism. Section 240D contains a statement that would have the effect of barring state and local police officers from making arrests for civil violations of immigration law—precisely the sort of violations that terrorist have demonstrated a propensity to commit.
But if Teddy writes it, W signs it.

9/02/2006 08:52:00 PM  
Blogger allen said...

habu_3; 08:11:43 PM

re: Con Thein

Hadn't heard of the place for years and didn't know that more than a handful of people had ever heard of the G-d forsaken place. It was a dark and bloody place. Habu, you never cease to amaze!

Feral pineapple and banana plantations hiding the remains of crumbling old estates, with whole divisions of the NVA operating with impunity, entertained the Corps. And, all this just a hop-skip-and jump from the river. Many a good Marine bought the farm there.

9/02/2006 08:53:00 PM  
Blogger The Mad Fiddler said...

Sorry, doug, I guess it's that gang of Liberal dee-programmers that kidnapped me briefly.

to quote Sinatra:

"Call me.... [politically] Un-Reliable..."

Seriously, I've been reading up on the goings on in Mexico. Mostly a lot of stuff from ZNET about what's going on in Oaxaca. I haven't had the energy or time to really study much about the contested national election.

I confess to the sin of letting my attention wander from the true path, and musing on the possibilities of “Can’t we all just get along?”

I confess to the sin of carelessness in naming South Carolina as the penal colony when in fact it was Georgia... (Thanks for the correction, Whit! >;-D)

Having lived in LaLa Land and since foresworn (even fivesworn) the place because everybody believes in the goddam TOOTH FAIRY, I confess to allowing myself to forget my rage at the closure of emergency rooms, the cutting back of public services by the Alameda Public Library when it was not even charging anything for failure to return the stinking library books....

I grovel before my betters.

9/02/2006 09:03:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Illegal Alien Amnesty Bill Bloats Welfare ...
...over the last 30 years, this historic pattern has reversed. As the relative education levels of immigrants fell, their tendency to receive welfare benefits increased.

By the late 1990s, immigrant households were 50% more likely to receive means-tested aid than native-born households.

Moreover, immigrants appear to assimilate to welfare use. The longer immigrants live in the U.S., the more likely they are to use welfare.

The picture for illegal immigrants, who would receive amnesty under the bill, is even more alarming. Roughly half of current illegal immigrants are high-school dropouts. Use of welfare among legal immigrants who are high-school dropouts is three times the rate for the U.S. native born population as a whole. The rate for low-skill immigrants granted amnesty would be similar. Overall, welfare costs added by this group would be quite high.

Illegal immigration is now a major cause of child poverty. According to the Pew Hispanic Center, 4.7 million children of illegal immigrant parents currently live in the U.S. Some 37% of these children are poor.

There is a remarkably foolish idea now running through the Senate that the key to solving the Social Security crisis is to import into the U.S. tens of millions of low-skilled immigrants, earning perhaps $20,000 per year, along with their families. The folly of this should be apparent.
The Democrats Love for us to pay to subsidize new Democrat voters!

9/02/2006 09:06:00 PM  
Blogger rufus said...

Walid Phares discusses the "Azzam Threat."

Some interesting stuff. I think he's saying the video of the American was shot in the U.S. Someone tell me if that's right.

9/02/2006 09:08:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Habu, and now You!
I guess it must be my turn.
I'm well practiced at it.
I persisted in believing men could control their destiny in the presence of women for decades!

9/02/2006 09:10:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

(Doug Sings)
"We are the World,
We are the Children..."

9/02/2006 09:13:00 PM  
Blogger 3Case said...

" seems to grant a recognition to a non-state organization without territory, an identifiable system of government, and lacking any legal mechanism capable of ratifying the Geneva Convention."

In other words, the Court's majority has concluded a treaty.

9/02/2006 09:17:00 PM  
Blogger Habu_3 said...

Allen and Rufus re: Con Thein 1967.

There was a battle there that will go down in Marine Corps history with the likes of Tarawa and the Canal..Operation Buffalo.

I don't want to mislead. I wasn't there for that battle but my brother in law was.( I was there on intel very much later) It was a killing that made the most other Nam engagements look like cake walks.
My brother in law,an aviator who had volunteered to be a FAC with the 3rd Marine Division up there won a Silver Star (knocked down from a recommendation for the Navy Cross) a Bronze Star with "V" three Purple Hearts (two of which he turned down, it was part of their code).
He was in fighting with 4k NVA coming over the line to attack 800 Marines. Fighting lasted for 18 hours+. Down to hand to hand in samll groups at times. He strangled three NVA and knifed five to death.
Wounded he called in close air support as the NVA, finally beaten, retreated to the safety of above the McNamara Line. But before they got there the Marine Attack squadrons killed 800+.
H could not sleep with my sister, his wife, for thre years after returning home due to reliving that battle. He damn near strangled her in his sleep!..PS Even thoughI'm an old dog I put in an application with Blackwater..they want to talk. Intel I hope. Too old to run although I could be part of the walker brigade.

9/02/2006 09:24:00 PM  
Blogger Habu_3 said...

Bedtime for this to all

9/02/2006 09:32:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Possum, you enjoy your Pillow Time, you hear?
Fisk Slams Nasrallah!

9/02/2006 09:37:00 PM  
Blogger The Mad Fiddler said...

Look, guys--- I've never had anyone fire a shot at me, and I've never fired a shot at a human.

I’ve cleaned fish, but I've only read about butchering an elk.

I'm more the boy-scout, "be prepared" first aid learn to build your own water filter kinda guy. Weekend camping. 12 weeks of Red Cross Wilderness Emergency Response training, CERT Team training with the local fire department,

But I have re-acquainted self with my dad's old 30-06. (He steered us brothers toward Junior NRA, and we each turned out to be pretty good shooters.)

There are certain questions I've thought through that I'm not disposed to discuss except among really intimate friends.

Bill Whittle has described in his essays the sort of mental path people like me have wandered.

Being an uncle and briefly a step-dad can’t be the same as being a father.

I can only imagine other folks’ experiences that have gotten them to their attitudes.

I appreciate your indulgence, and corrections to my false steps.

9/02/2006 09:38:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

That Fisk link is to Syria Blog, don't miss it:
Guess what?
The Euros are sellin out the Joos.

9/02/2006 09:38:00 PM  
Blogger rufus said...

Damn, Habu. I had a cup of coffee in Con Thien in 67'. Glad I missed that. I had never heard about Buffalo. I'm going to read up on it. Sorry to hear your Brother in law, and your sister had such a tough time. I'm glad it worked out. That sounds like ONE HELL OF A FIGHT.

9/02/2006 09:39:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

I'm succumbing to the Oprah-like gravity of the Belmont Confessional!
Feeling guilty, very very guilty!
Ok, here goes:
I'm not worthy!
(but of course you all knew that)
Peace be upon us, brothers.

I grovel at your superior education, writing ability, video editing capability and musical talents, Fiddler!
God knows what else, but no need to go too far with this.

9/02/2006 09:44:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Hey Rufus,
Your Turn!
Grovel on, young man!

9/02/2006 09:45:00 PM  
Blogger rufus said...

Uh, Doug, I don't know how to say this, but, uh .... Rednecks don't grovel too good.

I don't think. Uh, maybe if I knew what it was .....

Oh, hell, I'll give it a try. If you could just kinda, you know, hum a few bars, first .....

9/02/2006 10:01:00 PM  
Blogger rufus said...

Well, Fiddler, Winston Churchill might have thought that "getting shot at with no result" was a hoot, but it just scared the shit out of me.

I'm afraid being shot at and missed isn't much of a life's accomplishment, but maybe it's good that we can keep alive the memory of the bravery, and accomplishments of those that weren't so fortunate.

I mightily enjoy the wit and intelligence I find from you and Doug, and the other posters/commenters here at the BC; although, we've gotta do somethin about P'Tater. I mean, if I wanted to communicate with someone that talks like that I could just spend more time around my family and friends.

Anyhoo, Good Nite, everyone; I'm fadin fast.

9/02/2006 10:19:00 PM  
Blogger The Mad Fiddler said...

Whatever my talents may be, they come from self-indulgence more than discipline.

It's not false modesty but plain fact to mention that my vocabulary for whatever it's worth, was expanded by my mom drilling me for spelling bee when I was recuperating for a year from a childhood injury, and I was a captive scholar.

Other people have put their talents to much better use, helping either their country or humanity in general. I've paid my bills.

DCASR overlooked my youthful improprieties (Habu will understand, maybe) and judged me and my brother fit to do certain sorts of work for the gummint.

This country has blessed my life beyond the dreams of kings of earlier generations.

I have most of my teeth, and binocular vision, and can walk without a limp, none of which would have been possible if I'd been born in the time of my parents' parents.

I have the benefit of a good education, despite my attempts to cast it away.

I stand in awe of people who put on a uniform and did the tasks assigned them.

Put that in the present tense.

Where's my soap box?!

9/02/2006 10:41:00 PM  
Blogger 2164th said...

Iraq Holds 'key al-Qaeda figure'

Last Updated: Sunday, 3 September 2006, 10:00 GMT 11:00 UK

"The Iraqi authorities have announced the arrest of a man they say is the second-in-command of al-Qaeda in Iraq.
Iraq's national security adviser, Mowaffaq al-Rubaie, told a news conference the man, Hamad Jama al-Saedi, was detained a few days ago."

Now this is instructive. The Iraqis have this guy two days and he has already given up info so that the Iraqis have rolled up another twenty captured and killed. It seems unlikely that the Iraqis have heard about the new and kinder Belmont Club and must be using some, shall we say, firm methods of interrogation. For two years, we have heard from the experts that interrogation by force does not work. Well this Deputy Head of AQ certainly is chatty.

It is also instructive that the DH of AQ Iraq, did not much mind sending waves of suicide bombers to kill innocents, but when put to the test, he has decided to postpone his share of the promised virgins.

There are some very obvious lessons. We shall see.

9/03/2006 03:36:00 AM  
Blogger 2164th said...

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9/03/2006 04:16:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

Endurance Meets Doubt in Iraq

“As a soldier, I am going to do whatever we got to do,” he said. “As a personal opinion, I don’t think we need to be in this city, period. How much money and how many soldiers is it going to take when these people don’t want our help? They just don’t. We don’t even know who we can trust.”

Hit is a tough assignment. The predominantly Sunni town of some 65,000 sits astride the Euphrates in Anbar Province. Saddam Hussein hid in the nearby palm groves soon after escaping from Baghdad in April 2003, a telling indication that the town contained more than a few supporters of the old order.

9/03/2006 05:22:00 AM  
Blogger 2164th said...

The American military experience with occupation was successful when we had the complete unconditional surrender of the belligerents. I have no idea what we expect these troops to do. I suppose offer them a decent job when they quit the army in disgust.

9/03/2006 05:44:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

A disconnect to be sure.

Be sure to read this post by Omar.
Very revelatory.
A tale of two tribes, a gang and a militia...

9/03/2006 06:01:00 AM  
Blogger 2164th said...

Doug, His last line,

"I truly hope things end in the way I and the majority of my people like, after all, bonds created and maintained over centuries are no doubt stronger than the evil doings and ill wishes of a few mad criminals."

My cynical side tells me the opposite is true. People are so inherently tribal that the only thing that will bring things back to normal is blood letting to the point where everyone loses their appetite for more.

9/03/2006 06:11:00 AM  
Blogger rufus said...

Well, gentlemen, it is coming to an end. One way or the other, we're going to be leaving Iraq, soon. The American people have been stalwart, but they are coming to the end of their patience.

Whether we, individually, think that is a Good thing, or not, doesn't matter; that's how Democracy works. The essence of Democracy is that those on the extremes are rarely, if ever, happy. It's not unusual for everyone to be a little dissatisfied, in the short run.

Look for Bush to announce some sort of a quasi-outline for handing over power to the Iraqi's prior to the election. Some won't like it, some will feel "betrayed," but it will be infinitely preferable to handing the house over to the democrats, and having them do something "precipitous," and very destructive.

Welcome to Democracy. Personally, I think it's a Grand Thing. I just wish more people could get the hang of it.

9/03/2006 07:06:00 AM  
Blogger sirius_sir said...

The UN argues that people have no legal right to defend themselves and all matters of personal security should be left to the state.

But as Wretchard concludes, that position makes no sense in a world where states use non-state warriors to kill people while the state responsible for the safety of those same people can not, will not, or refuses to intervene. (But the citation of Hezbollah complicates the issue somewhat. The UN should give an unequivocal answer. Does Israel have a right to defend itself or not?)

Further, I wonder what the UN position regarding the passenger revolt aboard Flight 93 on 9/11 would be. According to the UN, the passengers had no right to self-defense. Substitute the non-state Janjaweed for al Qaeda and all becomes clear.

Or not. Because, as we know, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, which extends the definiton of what is allowable unto infinity. Even 9/11 becomes part of an honorable struggle, for was not bin Laden's self-stated (now that's a pun) purpose being avenging American occupation of Saudi land?

And yet we keep hearing that Saddam, had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11 even though bin Laden himself has said the invasion of Kuwait and our subsequent response had everything to do with it.

If only we hadn't gone to war to thwart Saddam, everything would have been fine. Now repeat after me: Everything would have been fine.

9/03/2006 08:58:00 AM  
Blogger Abu Nudnik said...

NahnCee said...

Would the UN itself be a state or a nonstate actor?

That made me realize that many UN decisions are taken primarily to bolster that organization itself! Why hadn't I thought of it before? It's like any bureaucracy: it cares about itself even if its mandate becomes perverted in the process. Remember the "I am NOMAD" episode from the original Star Trek?

9/03/2006 09:11:00 AM  
Blogger whit said...

It’s Sunday morning in the America, so for those who think American Christianity has gone too soft and can’t respond well to islamo-fascism and is represented by Jimmy Carter,
put this in your pipes and smoke it. This is what American Christianity really looks like. Robust and ready! By and large, its Christian America that sends its intelligent, well educated sons into the US military. It’s Christian America that supports Israel as the world turns against the Jews. It’s a Christian America and will never be the Islamic Republic of the United States. Got that al-Qaeda? Got that Adam Gadahn! Bring your crap in our house and we’ll hand your head on a platter, raghead!

9/03/2006 09:22:00 AM  
Blogger allen said...

From Austin Bay,

"His [Rumsfeld's] biggest mistake, in my view, was keeping a cadre of advisers that were fine for peace-time, Beltway political brawling, but ill-prepared for warfighting — particularly fighting a long, intricate, sustained war."

How comforting. And what about Iran?

9/03/2006 09:28:00 AM  
Blogger sirius_sir said...

If we do not fight to defend ourselves or our beliefs, if we submit too easily, do we not invite contempt? And why should we think that should not confirm "the central truth Osama and the mullahs have been peddling -- that the West is weak, that there's nothing -- no core, no bedrock -- nothing it's not willing to trade" for survival?

And that's the irony. For: to the Islamist mind, a society with nothing to die for is already dead.

9/03/2006 09:36:00 AM  
Blogger whit said...

Here is a hell of a photo from the remote mountains of Aghanistanof men with “stones”

9/03/2006 10:48:00 AM  
Blogger 3Case said...

2164th said: "...was successful when we had the complete unconditional surrender of the belligerents."

After the word "belligerents" I would add ", which, generally, the unrestrained application of our military force" before the ".".

You get back to it later when you observe there has not been enough blood shed. My short form for that, as I say it to friends here in CT, is "Not enough slaughter." But then, as I have observed here before, that is why the jihadis hide so well...they know what awaits them out in the open in a direct confrontation; adopting the NGO tactic is just another way to hide. They are DAMN good at hiding. They hise themselves better than they hide their women.


I keep all those magnificent men (our military and Marines, in particular) in my prayers regularly. I will add your b-i-l in with my friends and neighbors who died in Beirut and Grenada.

9/03/2006 10:57:00 AM  
Blogger 2164th said...

That picture is stunning Whit. I almost thought you were photoshopping us.

9/03/2006 11:00:00 AM  
Blogger whit said...

I know what you mean, but I believe it's real.

9/03/2006 11:02:00 AM  
Blogger 2164th said...

Whit, Rumsfeld must have cut back funding for that LZ.

9/03/2006 11:03:00 AM  
Blogger whit said...

I wish you could see the larger version.

9/03/2006 11:10:00 AM  
Blogger The Mad Fiddler said...

Thank you, sirius_sir, for the link to Mark Steyn's article (“Why abduct us? We cede our values for free”). That article pinpoints several questions that have been on my mind for a nawful long time.

For those who don’t have time to go read it, he begins by noting the wholesale rollover of the international news media establishment to the anti-Western tide, and examines specifically the dilemma of Sidney, Australia. As he puts it, the reporting by the press would suggest that there is an “epidemic of incidents committed by men of no known appearance” because the “journalists” authoring the news articles take it as their personal responsibility to actively censor the information that identifies suspects as Islamic males.

Steyn's key phrasing No. 1:

"One can understand the agonies the politically correct multicultural journalist must go through, distressed at the thought that an infelicitous phrasing might perpetuate unfortunate stereotypes of young Muslim males. But, even so, it's quite a leap to omit the most pertinent fact and leave the impression the Sydney constabulary are combing the city for mullets.'s never a good idea to put reality up for grabs. There may come a time when you need it."

Steyn's crucial phrasing No.2:

"It doesn't matter how "understandable" Centanni and Wiig's actions are to us, what the target audience understands is quite different: that there is nothing we're willing to die for. And, to the Islamist mind, a society with nothing to die for is already dead."

One theme that kept cropping up in Sunday School when I was a bitty little kid was the heroic refusal of Christians through history to renounce their faith, despite torture and death and imprisonment.

I’m certain that kids in Hebrew school have been reminded of their own like legacy, as have kids attending the wonderful schools administered by the Jesuits and other Catholics, et cetera.

It is essential to distinguish that from the madrassas and certain mosques that teach NOT the heroic refusal to renounce one’s faith, but the imperative to SLAUGHTER anyone who refuses to renounce one’s faith, if it is not YOURS.

It is also essential to remember that the highest ideal of ISLAMIC education throughout the Islamic world is the rote memorization of the verses of the Qur’an, so much so that at this time, the largest portion of Saudi university students are pursuing degrees in Islamic studies, rather than engineering, biology, history, chemistry, literature, or any other academic speciality.

9/03/2006 11:35:00 AM  
Blogger trish said...

"Well, gentlemen, it is coming to an end. One way or the other, we're going to be leaving Iraq, soon. The American people have been stalwart, but they are coming to the end of their patience."


It's a preposterous assertion.

One way or another, the admin WILL squeeze out two more years in Iraq. The American people have nothing to do with it.

9/03/2006 12:19:00 PM  
Blogger sirius_sir said...

Islam is the only religion acceptable to God and came with the revealed book, the Koran, which abrogates all previous revelations, like the Torah and Evangel...

Not quite sure where the guy thought he was going with that rant, but you can read more, if you wish, here.

I don't know about the rest of you, but it sure does seem some people are on a 'crusade.' (If you get my drift.) And it isn't the infidel invaders.

Some have said we are now engaged in a clash of civilizations, but more and more it is coming to look like a clash of religions, or, more accurately perhaps, a clash of one particular religion against all others.

I am reminded of the warning contained in Mathew 7:15
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

9/03/2006 12:21:00 PM  
Blogger Buddy Larsen said...

I think the two Fox guys ought to pull an operation out of this. Fox would be in on it, of course, along with maybe the allies-siding faction of the CIA. Okay, the guys go mufti, and keep up their work, only on camera they spout the most ridiculous notions imaginable, playing it straight, as new converts, right outta the Koran. The slow laughter would build over time.

9/03/2006 12:58:00 PM  
Blogger The Mad Fiddler said...

I have just one thing to add to all this:

Edmund Blackadder, "Back and Forth", in a wattle and daub for Chrissake TIME MACHINE, accompanied by his trusty dogsbody, Baldrick.

As usual, they have a verrrrry cunning plan...

9/03/2006 12:59:00 PM  
Blogger rufus said...

preposterous statement?


Absurd. :)

9/03/2006 01:03:00 PM  
Blogger Buddy Larsen said...

The jihad's new man, Mr. Bean,

emerged from his thatch-roofed machine;

Said "When it comes to religion,
I'm just a big pigeon,

whichever the wind blows I lean!"

9/03/2006 01:09:00 PM  
Blogger rufus said...


the allies-siding faction of the CIA?

We got one of those?

9/03/2006 01:19:00 PM  
Blogger The Mad Fiddler said...

Buddy, am I completely mistaken? I had heard reports describing Rowan Atkinson as almost the single British celebrity who was openly critical of the PC rules suppressing the identification of Islamic terrorists as "Islamic" or "terrorists."

I'm trina do some research.

Do you know of some specifics?

9/03/2006 01:19:00 PM  
Blogger Buddy Larsen said...

O/T--Ollie North's show tonight (Fox) examines the circumstances of death of George Patton.

9/03/2006 01:21:00 PM  
Blogger Buddy Larsen said...

Fiddler--gosh, no, I didn't aim the doggerel at anything other than your Black Adder riff. The medieval time machine thing inspired my limbrick brain.

9/03/2006 01:25:00 PM  
Blogger 2164th said...

Today the Canadians deserve our thanks and sympathy for their help and sacrifice in Afghanistan.

"More than 200 Taleban fighters have been killed in a major offensive by Afghan and Nato forces in southern Afghanistan, Nato says.

Four Canadian soldiers with the Nato forces were also killed in Operation Medusa, which began on Saturday near the city of Kandahar." BBC

9/03/2006 01:28:00 PM  
Blogger 2164th said...

Words to Live By

"Find The Bastards, Then Pile On."

Standing Order for Troopers of the 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment  in Vietnam issued by its commander, Colonel George S. Patton, III

9/03/2006 01:33:00 PM  
Blogger Buddy Larsen said...

some instalinks on the Afghan battle:

9/03/2006 01:36:00 PM  
Blogger 2164th said...

Whit, after closer inspection, I think that picture is a fake.

9/03/2006 01:39:00 PM  
Blogger whit said...

I have some doubts about it too. For one thing, I don't think you'll find a concrete house in those mountains.

What're you thinking?

9/03/2006 01:41:00 PM  
Blogger trangbang68 said...

Rufus,Ask and you shall receive.You want todo some reading on Operation Buffalo,Keith William Nolan,the premier Viet Nam battle historian has an account of the battle called simply"Operation Buffalo" It was the first of his books I've read and I was astonished compared to my own experience northwest of Saigon at the ferocity of combat.The marine Units were nearly decimated by the NVA.I have read it two or three times and its hard to put down.
Nolan is a great writer.His account of the last major ground combat for American troops in Viet Nam,"Ripcord" about a battalion of the 101st guarding a firebase in the A Shau valley in june 1971 is masterful.I haven't read anyone who so powerfully describes small unit action as Nolan.

9/03/2006 01:46:00 PM  
Blogger 2164th said...

It would be very hard to balance the wash from those two props one over the roof and the other above the ground. The same wash would blow those guys off the roof. There is no dirt or debris and the trees are not moving.

9/03/2006 01:47:00 PM  
Blogger whit said...

Correction, the house definitely looks like mud packed something, not concrete.

I dont't know.

9/03/2006 01:50:00 PM  
Blogger rufus said...

Thanks, TB, I'll definitely get ahold of it.

9/03/2006 02:01:00 PM  
Blogger whit said...


I'll have to look at the photo with better software from work but zooming in with Paint, it looks as though the areas around the back tire and the soldiers legs were digitally altered.

I'm afraid that you are right.

9/03/2006 02:05:00 PM  
Blogger sirius_sir said...

has it al Qaeda's number two man in Iraq, [Hamed] al-Saeedi was arrested “along with another group of his aides and followers,” and that after his arrest, he gave information that led to the capture or death of 11 other top al-Qaida in Iraq figures and nine lower-level members.

It is good that the Iraqis are making progress against those who would ruthlessly kill them, but... on the off chance that al-Saeedi might have been in some way co-erced and did not offer up his comrades entirely voluntarily, I would hope that Human Rights Watch is on the case.

Further, if he has been transferred to the infamous Abu Ghraib prison, I hope the International Red Cross is on the case as well.

Ditto Amnesty International, on the theory that there are no prisoners but political prisoners.

Too bad there is no NGO committed to insuring he is not ill-treated by his former confederates should he ever be released. Giving up his associates, even under duress, is possibly akin to the sin of Islamic apostasy.

(Oh, that there were an international organization willing to take on that proverbial eight-hundred pound gorilla.)

9/03/2006 02:11:00 PM  
Blogger The Mad Fiddler said...

More on Rowan Atkinson and pending British legislation promoting PC speech:

Here is the link to Rowan Atkinson’s address to the British House of Lords, 25.1.05

A brief excerpt:

” I am here to plead the case in opposition to a law of Incitement of Religious Hatred on behalf of those who make a living from creativity: those whose job it is to analyse, to criticise and to satirise. Authors, journalists, academics, actors, politicians and comedians. All of whom, the government claim, need have no concerns about the legislation but as the arguments both for and against the measure have evolved, I believe that these reassurances are a politically motivated fiction.

I question the legislation and the thoughts behind it for the following reasons:
Firstly, the government’s belief that the measure will promote racial tolerance. Now racial tolerance may sound a pretty inarguable notion. Unfortunately, what is very arguable is the definition of the term - the definition of a tolerant society. “

Here is another link to the European magazine “Index on Censorship” that has excerpted quotes from that same speech. Here’s their little after-blurb describing the occasion of his testimony:

”Rowan Atkinson was speaking at the House of Commons on the eve of the second reading of the Serious Organised Crime and Police Bill to publicise the objections of a broad group of writers, representatives of the National Secular Society and MPs. This text is reprinted with his permission.”

For the truly brave, here is the BBC official website page discussing the “blasphemy law” which evidently derives from common law — i.e., case precedents dating centuries. A caption on the site states that the law only protects the Anglican Church of England. The site indicates its most recent update was 18 October 2004.

Check also Polly Toynbee’s comment/article in the online Guardian titled “What's at stake is the right to insult and cause offence” from Tuesday 31 January 2006.

9/03/2006 02:12:00 PM  
Blogger The Mad Fiddler said...

Not so much trying to RAM Atkinson down anyone's throat as just look at some encouraging debate going on in UK about the whole PC mess... seems like there are folks fighting the dhimmi tendency.

Bout the chopper pic--- is there a link anywhere to a larger format?

I've been using Photoshop since 1987, and I can't see enough from the image file I downloaded to make any judment. I don't for a second doubt that there are pilots with that much skill, though, cause I've seen 'em do it.

9/03/2006 02:15:00 PM  
Blogger sirius_sir said...

Sorry for the messed up comment and all the blue. It looked fine in preview.

9/03/2006 02:16:00 PM  
Blogger allen said...


re: Buffalo


Companies A, B, & D 9th Marines were not decimated, however. They were nearly annihilated. Casualties were well in excess of 200%, but people quit counting.

9/03/2006 02:17:00 PM  
Blogger whit said...


I could forward the email which contains a larger format...

9/03/2006 02:33:00 PM  
Blogger rufus said...

Mad Fiddler, that was an "Excellent" Link. The guy made exquisite sense. The Britishers will get it. It'll just be tougher over there, for awhile. About one more 7/7 will probably do it (No, I'm not hoping for that, but we all know terrorism isn't going away, and it will happen, there, as well as, here.)

9/03/2006 02:38:00 PM  
Blogger rufus said...

That's okay, Sirius; we like blue. That, also, was an excellent link, by the way. It's harder than it should be getting day by day news out of Iraq.

9/03/2006 02:46:00 PM  
Blogger Buddy Larsen said...

For Plame/NYTimes watchers, this trip down memory lane is quick & down on it.

9/03/2006 02:57:00 PM  
Blogger Buddy Larsen said...

oops, sorry, I meant this.

9/03/2006 03:00:00 PM  
Blogger Habu_3 said...

2164 makes some good observations regarding the photo.

I will say the obvious however, some pilots, fixed wing or rotor are better than others. The fisrt time I went into Laos was on a Air Am Pilatus Porter,a helluva aircraft. We landed on what looked to me like a basketball size piece of terra firma. No outer markers, no rabbit,straight down,flair,ground, Get out throw up and light a Camel. The guy fly'in had flown with my father in several Marine squadrons before going to Air Am. I made him promise not to tell my Dad I had thrown up!

9/03/2006 03:04:00 PM  
Blogger Habu_3 said...

Is it possible to get pre-traumatic stress disorder? I mean it's like when you're a kid and you've asked Santa for new bike.

Well, I want Iran ( to get nuked) so bad, and Syria(smashed) to a lesser extent that I'm gett'in antsy for some resolution.
I reck'on I'll have to keep work'in on that Zen donut hole deal

9/03/2006 03:15:00 PM  
Blogger Buddy Larsen said...

Of Zen and donut holes:

9/03/2006 03:33:00 PM  
Blogger Habu_3 said...

Have I missed some vital and conclusive evidence that is irrefutable that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass distruction .... moved to Syria by Russia prior to our invasion?

I know it's made it to the MSM that we have photo's of very large convoys moving to Syria prior to the war. We have testimony from drivers who(might say anything)say they handed the trucks over at the border to Syrian "military".
The accepted popular conclusion refuted by few (who wouldn't know anyway) is that Iraqi did not have WMD's...well he did when he chemmed the Kurds. We did find small pockets of WMD ordinance.
And it is difficult for me to choke down the fact that NSA, MenWithHill and Eshelon did not pick up traffic discussing the movements.
Sources and methods are being protected at this point. The stuff is in Syria. Bush can not defend any of it without divulging sensitive sources and methods.I am convinced of it.
That is why Powell did not quit. He knew the same stuff but he stayed until it was appropriate to leave post election. he (at the urging of his wife) had always been a reluctant SecState.
The intelligence sources of all the major western countries could not have been duped en mass. And they all said that Saddam had them.

9/03/2006 03:35:00 PM  
Blogger Habu_3 said...

An essay of the whole of AlGore.

9/03/2006 03:43:00 PM  
Blogger Habu_3 said...

well I'm over even the flexi-rule-two-post-let-others-in.

And since there's no way to nuke Iran from my key board ..happy trails.

9/03/2006 03:47:00 PM  
Blogger allen said...

re: Al Gore

I recall Franklin saying of one of his British ministerial antagonists, “He fills a chair.” Mr. Gore could be that man.

Of course, it could have been Disraeli, or possibly Churchill. Hell, I don't know, but I like the thought nonetheless.

9/03/2006 04:01:00 PM  
Blogger allen said...

Australia is abusing its "moderate" Muslims, so they say. And, by golly, those "moderates" are angry. Yes, that is hard to believe, I know.

"Muslim anger erupts at Costello call to renounce terrorism"

9/03/2006 04:21:00 PM  
Blogger allen said...

Patriot Games?

This could be the start of something big. Are these chaps “Far Right” as in Sam Adams, or far right as in David Duke?

Britons threaten Muslim beheadings in footage,20867,20347865-2703,00.html

9/03/2006 04:35:00 PM  
Blogger rufus said...

Sometimes, you just don't know Who to believe.

9/03/2006 05:08:00 PM  

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