Sunday, October 08, 2006

Does Ted Koppel read the blogs?

Do you think Ted Koppel's been reading the blogs? Westhawk quotes Koppel's column in the International Herald Tribune, in which he coincidentally ideas to deter nuclear proxy warfare that were earlier circulated on the blogs.


If Iran is bound and determined to have nuclear weapons, let it. … But this should also be made clear to Tehran: If a dirty bomb explodes in Milwaukee, or some other nuclear device detonates in Baltimore or Wichita, if Israel or Egypt or Saudi Arabia should fall victim to a nuclear "accident," Iran should understand that the U.S. government will not search around for the perpetrator. The return address will be predetermined, and it will be somewhere in Iran.

The idea of an unacknowledged tit-for-tat against roge state sponsors of terrorism was not only bruited by Westhawk before Koppel, it was described on the original Belmont Club site in February, 2005.

Long before a faculty lounge in Islamabad or Riyadh realizes it can build a bomb alone and secretly, the same thought will have occurred to individuals in Tel Aviv, New Delhi or Palo Alto. Any Islamic group that believes it can attack New York deniably should convince itself that no similar group can nuke Mecca at the height of the pilgrim season. In fact, the whole problem that Coll describes should be generalized. The only thing worse than discovering that New York has been destroyed by persons unknown is to find that Islamabad has been vaporized by a group we've never heard of.

The idea appeared again somewhat later in September 14, 2006 in the post entitled A Joke at the Kremlin, which described Vladimir Putin's warning to Nathan Sharansky that the West could be struck by suitcase bombs carried by terrorist proxies. Nuclear weapons without a return address. The idea of unmarked retaliation was contined in my fiction reply to Putin:

But how if Sharansky told Putin. "Yes, Vladimir. Imagine a wonderful dusk in Moscow, or Teheran, or Damascus. The work of the day is done; and strong, capable men lock their safes and wait for the limousines to carry them to the secret policeman's ball. There will be women, wine! Especially in Teheran there will be wine! And somewhere on those darkened streets a man may take a suitcase from a car and sets it very carefully in a bus station locker. Quietly. As if he were afraid to awaken something sleeping. Not from my country, Vladimir. But from some other, lawless country, one that doesn't want to get its hands dirty — who will perpetrate their attacks without a return address. What should we do about that Vladimir?"

But unattributed retaliation against terrorist sponsors only works as long as the terrorist sponsors are sole producers of nuclear weapons. If fanatical cultists like Osama Bin Laden had an independent capacity to manufacture nukes, no regime of proportional retaliation would result in stable deterrence for reasons described in the Three Conjectures. The murderous cycle of retaliation would continue until someone willed himself to do the unimaginable.

Consider a case where Islamic terrorists obliterate a city, causing five times the deaths at Hiroshima and an American limited response. ... In a war between nations, the conflict might stop at this point. But since there is no one with whom to negotiate a peace and no inclination to stop anyhow, the Islamic terrorists will continue while they have the capability and the cycle of destruction continues. ... At this point, a United States choked with corpses could still not negotiate an end to hostilities or deter further attacks. There would be no one to call on the Red Telephone, even to surrender to. In fact, there exists no competent Islamic authority, no supreme imam who could stop a jihad on behalf of the whole Muslim world. Even if the terror chiefs could somehow be contacted in this apocalyptic scenario and persuaded to bury the hatchet, the lack of command and control imposed by the cell structure would prevent them from reining in their minions. Due to the fixity of intent, attacks would continue for as long as capability remained. Under these circumstances, any American government would eventually be compelled by public desperation to finish the exchange by entering -1 x 10^9 in the final right hand column: total retaliatory extermination.

Islamic terrorists which do not represent states but only themselves; which consist of groups answerable to no more than a handful of fanatics yet have the power to kill millions can only be met — if they can be met at all — by the most radical form of excision. There is no stable plateau at which the process of retaliation would naturally halt. There are no ledges on which the falling stone of destruction will catch. Stopping the serial destruction of the world's cities would require a response so dreadful and so unthinkable that almost any effort to win the war on terror to prevent this fantastic exchange would be well worth it. We are living in the last minutes of what I called the Golden Hour — the window in which this WMD-enabled terrorism can be prevented with a minimum of human suffering. And we are probably frittering the time away. But at least, maybe Ted Koppel reads the blogs, or the idea has occurred to him independently, so there's hope yet.

10 Comments:

Blogger NotWhoIUsedtoBe said...

The Cold War policy was to meet any nuclear detonation with a full retaliatory strike. That's the only way to deter terrorist bombs.

For the moment (and this may change) only states have the resources to make atomic bombs. Retaliating against all of our enemies with a nuclear capability in the case of any nuclear attack against the US has four main advantages.

1. There is no possibility of escaping responsibility, since we won't try to determine the origin of the attack.

2. An enemy could be made to re- think having a nuclear capability at all, since it might be destroyed through no fault of its own.

3. Enemy states will have a large incentive to not cause proliferation. Nukes outside of their control could lead to their destruction.

4. Enemy states will have a reason to restrain each others behavior, for their own survival.

For these reasons a policy of total retaliation has a better chance of deterring an attack on the US. Since we are not going to prevent an Iranian bomb, this is the alternative. Any limited retaliation in policy or practice has the shortcomings Wretchard describes.

No, I'm not crazy. This is the policy we lived with for over 40 years in regards to the USSR, and until the 70s toward China. It's not pretty but it worked.

10/08/2006 06:53:00 AM  
Blogger Pierre said...

Hey but suitcase nukes don't exist!

Proxy Terrorism From Iran a warning from Sharansky and Putin

10/08/2006 07:18:00 AM  
Blogger Meme chose said...

The central issue we are now facing is an old one, just applied now to more remote locations, as the world has suddenly been shrunk by globalization and access to WMD. That issue is whether communities will take responsibility for the actions of their own members.

As Wretchard suggests, Muslims who take an insouciant line on the behavior of their young men, as almost all of them do, should reflect on the fact that only one answer has ever been found to this question. You take responsibility, and you deal with your own, or we exterminate you all and 'let God sort them out'. In the end there is no escaping this responsibility.

This has been applied so universally down the centuries that we can at least be certain that, given the chance and if the circumstances were reversed, they would do the same, or worse, to us.

One tell-tale sign I would look for is a US program to manufacture more nuclear weapons, based on the realization that if we go down this path we will need a lot to use plus a lot to be available as a reserve from the next day forward.

10/08/2006 07:33:00 AM  
Blogger Teresita said...

John Lynch, obviously the Russians no longer believe this doctrine is operative, since they are going full steam ahead on rigging Iran for nuclear power. My policy would be to cancel any U.S. government contract with Russia (ie. space station, babysitting nuclear waste, de-militarization, etc.) in roughly the same amount they receive from the mullahs for their reactors. Money talks, bolshevik walks.

10/08/2006 07:37:00 AM  
Blogger NotWhoIUsedtoBe said...

The Russians are a problem in regards to Iran. We can't nuke them without a full nuclear war, and they know that. Nor would that be a good idea, anyway. They aren't the enemy they once were. They can make trouble for us, but there are a lot of ways to deal with them diplomatically. They can be talked to. Same with PRC.

10/08/2006 07:48:00 AM  
Blogger 3Case said...

Meme,

As time goes I believe less and less in their insouciance and more and more that they are but vultures...waiting.

10/08/2006 08:05:00 AM  
Blogger NotWhoIUsedtoBe said...

We seem to be making new warheads from old ones.

10/08/2006 08:08:00 AM  
Blogger NotWhoIUsedtoBe said...

I'd love an alternative. This one sucks, but if we are not willing to go to war to prevent our enemies from getting nukes...

It really would help if both political parties would commit themselves to some sort of credible deterrant policy soon. That way a change of administration (which is inevitable eventually) won't be misinterpreted.

Perhaps a successful NK test would prompt some productive changes. There's been some Democratic talk about deterrance as a alternative to hitting Iran, and I'd like to know if they are serious about it. Are they really ready to kill that many people? If they aren't perceived as credible, then the worst possible case happens- we lose a lot of people and kill many many times more. I'd rather avoid that. That would be an enormous failure.

10/08/2006 08:30:00 AM  
Blogger Meme chose said...

Dave H,

I agree; once the Democrats get a chance to start their own war the rest of the world had better watch out. The Democrats will have little difficulty justifying in their own minds whatever conflict it is they want to engage in, and whatever measures prove necessary after it starts to preserve their amour propre.

10/08/2006 12:45:00 PM  
Blogger Fat Man said...

The only thing that gives me any comfort is the fact that neither Iran not NoKo have tested a bomb, which they would undoubtedly do if they had one. I am therefor encouraged to think that it is a lot harder to build one than it is commonly suposed to be.

10/08/2006 05:37:00 PM  

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