Friday, July 07, 2006

The Chief of Baghdad 2

Austin Bay and Jim Dunnigan have a very interesting discussion on the internal dynamics of Maliki's negotiations with insurgents in Baghdad at the Glenn and Helen podcast. The key line: "the squeeze on Sadr is on"


Blogger 2164th said...

Justa another day for the religion of peace. Poor things the muslims, being hijacked again by guess who, more muslims just wanting to blow up the Holland Tunnel or a reasonable facsimile thereof.

Tick tock, tick tock, and one of these days the religion of peace will have probed the depth of Western tolerance a little too deep.

Allah once more will not save their sorry hateful ignorant souls from the ignominy they so richly deserve. They tell us they love death. How sweet will be the union with their betrothed.

7/07/2006 04:49:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

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7/07/2006 05:33:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Hewitt believes it should not have been disclosed.
He's going to have some really sickening audio and transcript of the Time's Traitor Keller up at
The Prowler's latest at the American Spectator:
"What the New York Times Has Wrought."
The New York Times' Duties of Disclosure ?
- Hewitt

7/07/2006 06:14:00 PM  
Blogger Billll said...

God speaks to everyone on a daily basis. Some listen, some don't.
The GWOT will end when the last mosque is converted to a MacDonalds.
Mmmmmm. MacRibs.

7/07/2006 06:23:00 PM  
Blogger Dan said...

"The squeeze"? Jesus - no wonder these people havent done anything in 400 years: KILL HIM NOW GODDAMNIT.

7/07/2006 06:57:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Please, Dan:
As Mr. Bush said about Kim Ill:
"I don't know his intentions. "
We aren't mind readers, ya know.

7/07/2006 07:50:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

According to Dan Rather,
Neither do most North Koreans, it being worse than 1984 there:
In this case I'll take Dan's assesment over GWB's.

7/07/2006 07:54:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Worse Than 1984 - Christopher Hitchens

DAN RATHER: "You said how controlled?
The control was complete, absolute.
We went nowhere without the controllers.
We spoke to no one without the permission of the controllers.
The people we spoke to tended to be official guides at museums, other public monuments, that sort of thing.
It's hard for anyone in the West, I would say hard for anyone who's never been to North Korea to imagine what it's like, because the discipline is so great that everybody you're allowed to talk to gives you what are clearly programmed answers and sometimes they're non sequiturs.
...I would say hard for anyone who's never been to North Korea to imagine what it's like:
So GWB is excused if he's mistaken - it's hard to figure out.

7/07/2006 08:01:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

nighttime The Dark Side

7/07/2006 08:07:00 PM  
Blogger 2164th said...

Doug 8:07,

A picture tells a thousand words? This one will take them all away. None are needed.

7/08/2006 12:25:00 AM  
Blogger 2164th said...

The Religion of Peace speaks through a convert:

Friday, July 7, 2006; Posted: 8:25 p.m. EDT (00:25 GMT)

Adam Gadahn spoke out against U.S. troops on a video addressing the 2005 London subway bombings.

(CNN) -- California-born al Qaeda member Adam Gadahn speaks out against U.S. troops on a video that has been released by As-Sahab, the terror network's video-production outfit...
...He found Islam after moving into his grandparents' Santa Ana home, where he began exploring Internet message boards about religion and reading English translations of the Quran."...

..."You see, I discovered that the beliefs and practices of this religion fit my personal theology and intellect as well as basic human logic," Gadahn wrote in the essay."...

..."The majority of the videotape deals with the London bombings and states that two of the suicide bombers received explosives training at al Qaeda camps.

The narrator of the 30-minute tape says that suicide bomber Shehzad Tanweer "received, along with the martyr (Mohammad) Sidique Khan, focused and practical instruction on the manufacture of explosives and their use at the camps of Qaeda al-Jihad."

The tape includes footage of men mixing explosives and carrying out small explosions, but it's not clear if the men in the video are the London bombers.

Khan and Tanweer traveled to Pakistan in October 2004, returning to Britain in February 2005, five months before they carried out the London bombings, along with Germaine Lindsay and Hasib Hussain."

This an example of the pernicious evolution in the ugly smear of Islam on western countries. The next wave is incubating around us. It is abetted in all US prisons. Tolerance and diversity are the host carriers.

In Britain and Germany, I could be arrested for being so mean and speaking so beastly about one of the world's great religion.

Tick-tock, tick- tock.

7/08/2006 04:18:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

Cobcering the PR aspect of the War,
"... The innocence or guilt of the individual soldiers implicated in Haditha or the other alleged abuse incidents is a lower-order concern to those fighting a PR war for the hearts and minds of the American people on Iraq. In the first effusion of media coverage of these events, the impression is weighted toward assuming guilt, and so when the pollsters call to ask about support for the war, the numbers fall. Mission accomplished--unless a Gen. Pace can jump quickly enough on the other side of the public-impression teeter-totter. ...

... "You need a PR counteroffensive," says Mr. Pantano today. "In a more nuanced world, it might not be necessary, but it's the only way the system can remain in balance anymore."

All the military attorneys I spoke with said ugly crimes do happen in war. But war at the shooting level is often a complex event. Haditha or one of the others may yet produce a crime or a cover-up. But in the age we live in, rush-to-judgment can become a bad habit. It might be better to wait for a real verdict. ..."

by Daniel Henninger, a deputy editor of The Wall Street Journal's editorial page.

"It might be better to wait for a real verdict."

Did not for wait for Scott Peterson, OJ or Ken Lay's day in Court to be finished before there was a feeding frenzy on them.

The Judgement may be of "not guilty" or "guilty", in Court.
In the court of public opinion, they were all prejudged guilty.

That is a reality of our current culture.

7/08/2006 04:59:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

As each of the Mohammedan Wars have been judged to be local affairs, my reading has expanded to include the cultural trends in Japan.

I had not understood the real backstory of Mr Koizumi's visit to Graceland.

Todd Crowell tells the tale of the Yasukuni Shrine and what it signifies in regards current Japanese historical revisionism.

"... Americans have been curiously detached from the Yasukuni shrine issue. Hyde may be the only member of Congress, indeed the only member of the entire government, who takes the matter seriously and has expressed his disapproval.

This is strange since it makes it seem as if World War II in the Pacific was some kind of parochial dustup between Japan China and Korea, in which the US was simply a passive bystander. Yet Americans might be more concerned if they realized that their entire legacy in that epic conflict is under attack in Japan.

The Yasukuni Shrine is a memorial to the souls of more than two million Japanese soldiers from wars stretching back to the Meiji Era 1868-1912). It also honors 14 “Class A” war criminals (not to mention Class B, C and D. criminals) – 1,068 war criminals convicted in a series of post-war tribunals known as the Tokyo Trials.

The issue isn’t just the technical appropriateness of the Japanese prime minister paying respects to Japan’s fallen (which was recently declared constitutional by the country’s Supreme Court.). The larger issue is what might be called the “Yasukuni Mindset”, an entire catalogue of coalescing attitudes toward the war and its legacy.

Americans would be surprised if they were to visit the Yashukan War Memorial attached to the shrine to learn that: ...

Elvis and War Crimes: One Shrine or Another

Posted at RealClearPolitics

Interesting, also with regards Mr Kim and Japan's pull out from Iraq.
It's first real foreign military adventure in decades.

7/08/2006 06:02:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

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7/08/2006 06:10:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

Kirk H. Sowell has written a piece
US-Iraqi Forces Confront Mahdi Army in Baghdad
'Significant Criminal' Captured, 30-40 Militiamen Dead or Wounded; Sadr Seeks Maliki's Interrogation

"... The reaction from Sadr’s faction was strong. According to the Iraqi newspaper Al-Rafidayn (Arabic), a spokesman for Sadr called for not only the prime minister but the interior and defense ministers to be called before parliament and interrogated over the incident. While American officials emphasized the role of Iraqi troops in the operation, a separate article from the same newspaper emphasized the role of American forces while noting that Iraqi forces were involved. It quoted a member of the ruling UIA loyal to Sadr as saying that “the American administration and elements within the Iraqi government” wanted to eliminate Sadr’s role in the political process. ..."

Yep, ThreatsWatch.

7/08/2006 06:16:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

Lawrence F. Kaplan is a senior editor at The New Republic and he writes

Really an interesting perspective from a proWar Democrat.

New Republic online
"Letting Go"

7/08/2006 06:46:00 AM  
Blogger Wu Wei said...

A few moslems join Al Qaeda so all are bad? A few of them are violent so all are bad?

That's the same argument bin Laden uses: the Christians raped and pillaged during the Crusades, therefore Christianity is a violent religion. He says that Christians were responsible for Abu Ghraib, which means all Christians want that to happen.

Believing something that isn't true is always a mistake. Prejudice against moslems would end up turning the 90%+ who are non-violent against us. Divide and conquer.

7/08/2006 07:17:00 AM  
Blogger 2164th said...

Sorry ww, once more you are loose with statistics and opinion:

British Muslims: 56% No
French Muslims: 46% No
Indonesia: 65% No
Egypt: 59% No
Turkey: 59% No
Jordan: 53% No
(Source: Pew Center)

Islam is not the same as Christianity, It was deformed at birth. There is no moral or immoral equilacency. Quote bin Laden all you like. Islam will take you on your knees but don't turn your back.

7/08/2006 07:30:00 AM  
Blogger 2164th said...

From our Good Friends the Saudis (FYI, no one escapes a Saudi prison.)

Last Updated: Saturday, 8 July 2006, 09:23 GMT 10:23 UK

Terror suspects 'flee Saudi jail'

The Interior Ministry said the fugitives were 'religious extremists'
Seven terror suspects have escaped from prison in Saudi Arabia, according to the country's Interior Ministry.
Saudi-owned television Al Arabiya said the fugitives - six Saudis and one Yemeni - were linked to al-Qaeda.

Saudi Arabia has been battling a campaign of violence by al-Qaeda aimed at toppling the pro-US monarchy.

The suspects fled Malaz prison in the capital Riyadh, where they had been held over "security related issues," an Interior Ministry statement said.

7/08/2006 07:39:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

The flip side of that, w.w., is that because a few Mohammedan men hijacked some planes, middled aged women are regularly searched, while Middle Eastern ethnics are passed on through.

Perhaps there was no cause to search those particular ME ethnics, but there is often no specific cause to search the middled aged women, either.

Appropriate response, based upon threat realities, that is what is missing in much of the debate.

In Iraq, it is our desire to hand off to leaders and security forces that are almost entirely Islamic.

So, other than your distrust of their legal system, as it applies to US, you think that's right and good? Good enough to rule Iraq, except where the US personel are involved?
We command and Mr Maliki falls in line?
That's the beacon we're lighting for others in the Region to follow?

As to the whole of Islam, as a "Political" ideology as well as a Religous one. It is expansionist in it's historical nature. It is also very "unforgiving".

As this report from Reuters illustrates.
"Pray or die, Somali sheikh tells Muslims"

"He who does not perform prayer will be considered as infidel and our sharia law orders that person to be killed," said Sheikh Abdalla Ali, who runs a sharia court in the Somali capital which the Islamists took last month.

It is however just a series of localized challenges, it's been so decided.
Rest easy.

7/08/2006 07:44:00 AM  
Blogger Wu Wei said...

> So, other than your distrust of their legal system, as it applies to US, you think that's right and good?

This false statement has already been shot down a couple of times. No exceptions for the US. Treat them exactly the same as soldiers from the other occupying armies like the UK.

Any attempt to compare UN authorized occupying soldiers to civilians from other countries is apples vs. oranges.

7/08/2006 11:20:00 AM  
Blogger Wu Wei said...

That's bin Laden's dream, that the US goes bigoted against all moslems, creating a battle of the West vs. the East.

It's a good thing that the whole world can see that 99.999% of Islamic citizens are not in Al Qaeda, and not terrorizing other countries.

Bin Laden will lose in his attempt to create moslems vs. Christians. They're rejected it and we will too.

7/08/2006 11:23:00 AM  
Blogger enscout said...


A little investigation may turn up some evidence to refute your claim.

The Koran - Islam's holy book - is filled with direct instruction to KILL or make subservient all infidels and apostates. This is not religion - it is tyranny. You must follow or die - it's just a matter of time.

It is also contains instruction on methods of infiltrating "enemy" society and gaining trust - until, of course, the time is ripe for their minions to strike at targets and ultimately destroy the "enemy's" society. This is why the Muslim program of prison "counseling" is so dangerous - more cannon fodder for the cause.

It is a dangerous ideology of death and control. If you are a good Muslim, you must wage jihad. Many are waiting for their chance.

7/08/2006 07:24:00 PM  

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