Friday, February 24, 2006

State of Emergency declared in the Philippines 2

Former President Corazon Aquino has asked current President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to resign, according to Philippine Commentary, liveblogging from Manila.

...former President CORAZAON AQUINO, (flanked by the Senate President FRANKLIN DRILON, Reps. BUTZ AQUINO, Rep. ROILO GOLEZ, and about 10,000 prominent and not so prominent personalities) just called on President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo "to make the supreme sacrifice and step down from office." Despite being threatened with dispersal earlier in the day, the celebration of the 1986 People Power Revolution in Makati City, at the corner of Ayala Avenue and Paseo de Roxas in the heart of the Central Business District is ongoing as I post this

Philippine MSM news celebrity and blogger Ricky Carangdang has the most sober take on the overall situation I have found:

Today may have been the spark that rekindled people power. Of course its too early to tell for sure but I have the sense that this weekend will be more crucial for Arroyo than the weekend of July 8 2005 when the Hyatt Ten, Cory Aquino and the Liberal Party called on the president to resign.

And of course one can never underestimate Arroyo. She has survived greater crises than those that brought down Marcos and Estrada. I do not discount her ability to pull a rabbit out of a hat and save herself. I also do not discount the possiblity that the various anti-Arroyo groups could blunder somehow and lose the advantage they currently seem to have. As the sun sets and the weekend begins its a safe bet that many of us will not be getting much rest.

Nail-biting weakened for all the political players in the Philippines.


Blogger Nancy Reyes said...

we're watching it all on ABSCBN station...the press was warned they will be shut down if they inflame the situation, but they are as "fair and balanced" as Fox news...
They are now showing the police trying to disperse a group in Makati...a "volunatary" dispersion of the rally...(with a lot of police suggesting they leave)...tomorrow is the 20th anniversary of the PPR against Marcos, and this has been cancaled...
I live up country, and here GMA is not popular...a "bean count" poll two months ago was 3 to one she should be impeached...and that was at the supermarket...if it had been held in the Palenke, where the poorer people shop, I suspect it would be higher...
Of course, the Manila elite run the country, so one worries that no matter what happens nothing will change...

2/24/2006 03:50:00 AM  
Blogger Marcus Aurelius said...


I think many who want PGMA out are counting too much on romantic notions that Edsa will once again remove a President. I think they look upon it like a magic talisman.

2/24/2006 04:39:00 AM  
Blogger Karridine said...

"From two ranks amongst mankind have I seized power... kingly caste and ecclesiastics," and He said, "I have given POWER TO THE PEOPLE." quote: The Glory of God, Baha'u'llah

Whether or not we can wield power, and wield it wisely, remains to be seen.

2/24/2006 04:43:00 AM  
Blogger Cybrludite said...

Seems to me that calling for the sitting President to step down in the middle of a coup is a great way to find yourself in a shallow unmarked grave. I'm just sayin'...

2/24/2006 04:50:00 AM  
Blogger Ticker said...

My sense is that no KO has been scored by either side. The situation is too unpredictable to forecast. The rational thing is to wait and see. The US embassy in Manila issued a statement, available via link through Philippine Commentary basically saying they were closely monitoring the situation, affirming support for human rights, urging the respect for law, pleading for a nonviolent solution to problems and asking all US citizens to lie low over the coming days.

2/24/2006 04:58:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

"asking all US citizens to lie low over the coming days"
That means you, Phil.
I'm not holding my breath.

2/24/2006 05:50:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

And not a Mohammedan in sight,
except on Mindanao.

Cannot blame this dust up on them can we?
It doesn't spin that fast, does it?

2/24/2006 05:53:00 AM  
Blogger Dan said...

It's just random?

Been a while since you posted on the Phillippines, Wretchard.

2/24/2006 05:56:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

" ... ONITSHA, Nigeria, Feb 23 (Reuters) - Christian youths burned the corpses of Muslims on Thursday on the streets of Onitsha in southeastern Nigeria, the city worst hit by religious riots that have killed at least 146 people across the country in five days.

Christian mobs, seeking revenge for the killings of Christians in the north, attacked Muslims with machetes, set fire to them, destroyed their houses and torched mosques in two days of violence in Onitsha, where 93 people died.

"We are very happy that this thing is happening so that the north will learn their lesson," said Anthony Umai, a motorcycle taxi rider, standing close to where Christian youths had piled up the corpses of 10 Muslims and were burning them. ... "

There you go, if it's not one thing, it's another.

Some US Army men got in trouble for burning a dead Muslim body in Afghanistan. Seems that it is considered disrespectful or some such.
Better to leave the bodies out in the open, for the maggots and pigs to feed on, aye.

Anyway, these Nigerian Christians, they don't seem to turn a cheek.

2/24/2006 06:27:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

Onward Christian Soldiers!

2/24/2006 06:29:00 AM  
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2/24/2006 06:33:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

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2/24/2006 06:37:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

What, do the Nigerians belong to some wierd Christian Sect?
One that allows for proactive defense, a little eye for an eye.

In all the World, Christian balls are found again, in Nigeria, who'd have ever guessed. They must be behind in the Civilization learning curve.

Maybe Laura Croft was down there, found 'em in a Tomb...

2/24/2006 06:40:00 AM  
Blogger Charles said...

For a laugh, its fun to consider how quickly the bombing of the shia golden dome in Iraq has quieted the cartoon Mohhemmed (with the bomb in his turban)demonstrations in the Moslem world.

2/24/2006 06:46:00 AM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

...and as the first patient of the day settles into the dental chair, the door opens, and in walks the dentist, eyes shining strangely, humming softly under his breath the Rolling Stones' "Paint It Black".

2/24/2006 06:50:00 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

as the Ace of Spade is
as a hole in Manila is
as Jacking the Game is
as your True Love is
as Dreamless Sleep is
as Midnight is
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2/24/2006 07:00:00 AM  
Blogger Marcus Aurelius said...


I am told there are many Muslims in the Quipa district of Manila.

2/24/2006 07:03:00 AM  
Blogger Kent's Imperative said...

one observation from the master himself, Sherman Kent. There is a quote that circulates often in the community attributed to him, with words to the effect that “No coup plot that I have ever heard about was successful.”

Having said this, however, recent major political changes happened precisely because they became widely known, and the populace at large believed the outcome. The Orange Revolution (Ukraine) and the Cedar Revolution (Lebanon) are a fundamentally different kind of political event, however. Whereas once to execute a coup d’etat it required secrecy and the near total reliance on the military instruments of power, the fundamental shifts in technology empowering non-state actors has enabled new information dimensions the problem space.

From this, we may have to pen a corollary to Kent’s coup dictum. For today, it may be that hearing about the plot becomes a coup, whether the events of the conspiracy are successfully executed or not.

For the sake of the Philippine people, we hope otherwise and would of course prefer to see a peaceful and stable political outcome.

2/24/2006 07:06:00 AM  
Blogger Dan said...

Reported big attack on a major Saudi oil facility foiled today - just heard on NPR (think it's the BBC feed).

I wonder if this is all a prelude to a homeland attack.

That is definitely part of Al Qaeda's MO.

2/24/2006 07:08:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

But they are not a part of this, or are they? Is that population Radicalized?

I have no knowledge of that, one way or the other.

A General from the Army, would not be a Muslim, I prejudge.

More likely, considering his Unit, to be fighting them. So in that regard the actions on Mindanao could be impacting Manila.

Much like the French after Algeria, perhaps?

I really do not know.

2/24/2006 07:17:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

Just for me, thanks dan

" ... Cairo, Feb. 24 (AP): An explosion went off on Friday at a major oil processing facility in eastern Saudi Arabia, a Saudi oil official said. Suicide bombers in two cars attempted to attack the facility but were stopped by guards, though one exploded, damaging a pipeline, Al-Arabiya TV reported.

It was the first such attack on an oil facility in the kingdom, which has waged a fierce three-year crackdown on al-Qaida militants. There have been previous attacks on oil company offices, but not on a facility where oil is present.

The blast damaged a pipeline at Buqayq, a large complex that processes crude oil 70 kilometers (45 miles) southwest of the oil hub of Dammam on Saudi Arabia's Gulf coast, the Saudi-owned Al-Arabiya said. Oil stopped flowing briefly but then resumed, it reported.

Security guards opened fire on the explosives-packed cars as they attempted to drive through the facility's gates, the Saudi-owned television network said. The two cars bore logos of Aramco, the state oil company that owns the facility. ... "

Hindu News

The Hindu News, not part of our MSM, anyway.

2/24/2006 07:22:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

But still the AP Wire

2/24/2006 07:23:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

The Pressure is only beginning to build.

aristides mention of "three crisis", could well be three waves of crisis, not Individual events.

The Cartoons and the Francofada, that was just Summer League warm ups. Now the real game is about to start.
They not begun to field the A Team, yet. Cause the Enemy is about to "shift"

2/24/2006 07:31:00 AM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

One more, Mika, from the boys in Argentina. This one seems to have no jihadi verse, except for the bit about 'show respect'. Stones have always been as creepy as the world. Now they're as old as the world, too.

2/24/2006 07:41:00 AM  
Blogger Evan said...

Today may have been the spark that rekindled people power.

One of the biggest problems of that land, it seems to me as someone who only watches it from afar, is that it has a little too much enthusiasm for the power of "people power."

2/24/2006 07:53:00 AM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

Rat, re the Saudi attacks--reckon the Sauds dummied it up?

2/24/2006 08:03:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

No major losses, attackers killed prior to obtaining target,
good Press, KSA as victim.

Could be, could be not.
That's the usefulness of prejudice in Propaganda.
or Black Ops, triple flagged, the Driver does not know who he is working for, really.
He thinks he's aQ pretending to be be an Aramco employee, but really he's an Aramco of the King or Prince.

2/24/2006 08:15:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

Just like Europe, aye, wobbly

2/24/2006 08:17:00 AM  
Blogger The Wobbly Guy said...

From nearby Singapore, I must say I have nothing but contempt for the Filipinos and how they blithely seem to forget that they were the ones who put those detested leaders in government in the first place. A herd of lemmings more entranced by empty promises and showboating than actual intelligence and skill.

It's never the electorate's fault. So as you sow, so will you reap. And so the Phillipines lurches from elected moron to elected moron, voted in by even worse morons.

When will they learn? I don't expect them to, any time this century. The smart ones have mostly left, leaving the dull behind.

2/24/2006 08:18:00 AM  
Blogger Doug Santo said...

My recollection is that I read a previous post in which Wrethchard stated that his family was orginally from the Phillipines?

If so, I am wondering what his take on the current situation is? Also, I have several questions about the situation.

Was Arroyo democratically elected to her position?

Were the representatives and senaters seeking her resignation democratically elected?

If so, it must be seen as the height of irresponsibility for the representatives and senaters to ask her to resign in the face of a military coup attempt.

I just don't have enough background to analyze the situation. Help.

Doug Santo
Pasadena, CA

2/24/2006 08:19:00 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

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and there is
If there's an Absolute White,
and there is

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2/24/2006 08:24:00 AM  
Blogger The Wobbly Guy said...

She was democratically elected to the position of vice-president(they have separate elections for the pres and VP) in 2001, but ascended to the presidency when Estrada got into trouble.

In 2004, she won the presidential election amid allegations of cheating against Fernando Poe Jnr. Poe was an actor who had not even finished high school.

If Poe is what the Filipinos think is their second best choice for the executive role in their government, all the best to them. Good god, where are the qualified, serious candidates with clear ideas on law, politics, and economics?

2/24/2006 08:30:00 AM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

Santo, Wretchard's posts on Philippine politics were great, and also among the most depressing pieces you'll ever read. Dig them out of the archives, if you want to look like that Edvard Munch painting "The Scream".

2/24/2006 08:35:00 AM  
Blogger Marcus Aurelius said...


AFAIK the Moros of Quipo just live there and are not a major constiutuent of the military or any other governmental body.

The Moro vs. Malacanang fight really doesn't figure into this particular squabble. From what I gather PGMA has a fair amount of support among the Bisayas and from Mindanao.

2/24/2006 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My Father, the lated Staff Seargeant George Weinert (D 1989) was stationed in Manilla in 1945 as an adjancet secretary to Douglas MacArthur and never forgot the grinding povery of the people.

Of course that is great for the hookers - but at least they ARE CATHOLIC WHORES!

2/24/2006 09:02:00 AM  
Blogger Marcus Aurelius said...


By my last post I did not mean to imply there are many Muslims in the Bisayas.

2/24/2006 09:03:00 AM  
Blogger Annoy Mouse said...

The Anglican Communion with some 70 million members been having difficulty with assimilating Western liberalism.

“The 38 primates will consider the so-called Windsor Report, published after the consecration of gay bishop Gene Robinson in America and the blessing of same sex unions in Canada.

African and Asian leaders have started a campaign to restore order and to discipline an American Church which, they say, has departed from the Bible and Anglican tradition. “ BBC1

“But the Worldwide Anglican Communion may not remain a united body for long if the current controversy over the place of homosexuals in the Church is not resolved soon.” BBC2

“The African opposition is led by the Church of Nigeria whose Primate, Archbishop Peter Akinola, sees the appointment as a "satanic attack on the Church of God".
They have effectively threatened to break off on their own. I am not sure if this has been resolved.

It seems kind of absurd that the African bishops would bring religion into this political correctness.

“Nigeria is currently undergoing ethnic strife (which has hitherto been held in check by military governments), economic hardship which may lead people to seek non-biblical solutions to their problems, as well as religious conflict occasioned by the introduction of Sharia (Islamic) law in some Northern states. This portends serious threats to political/economic stability in the country. There are still beliefs, practices and customs, which deny women, men and children some basic fundamental human rights (e.g. certain widowhood rights, the Osu caste system, child labour).” Anglican Nigeria Organization

2/24/2006 09:05:00 AM  
Blogger Dan said...

Ah they did hit something, I didn't realize.

Hopefully they'll overplay their hand. I guess this is when intelligence matters most. Let's hope the close proximity these past few years has produced enough to go on.

2/24/2006 09:23:00 AM  
Blogger The Wobbly Guy said...

Funny somebody should mention the Anglican church controversy after the principal of the Anglican school I'm teaching at warned the students against such 'deviant' behaviour.

My take on it is simple: You want to be a member of the Anglican church(or associated organizations), you subscribe to its rules and regulations of your own free will. Don't want to follow those rules? Leave the organization. Nobody's forcing you to stay. The developed world is a (largely)non-coercive society.

Though I'm a pretty commited liberal atheist, I back the Anglican conservatives on this one.

2/24/2006 09:34:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

Meanwhile, on the otherside of the Arc

" ... On Tuesday, Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad publicly threatened the Shiite-dominated party that won the January parliamentary elections, saying that unless it formed national unity government that included Sunnis, it risked losing American financial assistance. He also insisted that politicians with ties to Shiite militias be banned from the Interior and Defense Ministries.

Among the Shiites, such threats carry an ominous tone; not only because they view their militias as the only force now protecting them from car bombs, but also because Shiites see the overt American push for a national unity government as nothing more than coddling the Sunnis and, worse yet, rewarding the insurgency.

Shiites also see American policy as unduly influenced by Sunni rulers in Jordan and Saudi Arabia, who have been aggressively lobbying Washington for a greater Sunni role in running Iraq. This has led many Shiites to talk of a "second betrayal" by the United States, a sequel to what occurred in 1991 when the Shiites rose up against Saddam Hussein only to be butchered as American forces refused to intervene. ... "

" ... In the aftermath of Samarra bombing, the American policy of pushing the Shiites to compromise with Sunnis will only backfire. The United States may not feel ready to choose winners and losers in Iraq, but it will find it increasingly difficult and costly not to do so. ... "

by: Vali Nasr, a professor at the Naval Postgraduate School and the author of the forthcoming book "The Shia Revival: How Conflicts Within Islam Will Shape the Future."

In the NYTimes

All the News that fits.

2/24/2006 09:50:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

At least those weakened nails won't hurt their teeth.

2/24/2006 10:05:00 AM  
Blogger PeterBoston said...

"Let's drop this diplomatic silence," said the rector of the Pontifical Lateran University. "We should put pressure on international organisations to make the societies and states in majority Muslim countries face up to their responsibilities."
Yahoo UK news

Hat Tip Tigerhawk

We have been saying this is a war of ideas. One of the world's heavyweights is making his presence known. I'm assuming the Pope is a heavyweight. I don't even know the last time a Pope made a foray into the public arena.

2/24/2006 10:21:00 AM  
Blogger Marcus Aurelius said...


That was my impression during my first visit in 1994.

However, after a little more travelling and a return visit this last January has me thinking otherwise.

Yes, there are areas of extreme poverty. Those living next to "No More Smokey Smokey Mountain" can be considered to be in "grinding poverty" but most of my travels around Manila things were not as bad as I remembered in 1994.

Unfortunately, the shennanigans of the politicos make it difficult for the Philippine's economy to really take off like it is poised to do.

2/24/2006 10:28:00 AM  
Blogger Dan said...

When the hell are the Sunnis just going to get in line and pursue their treachery in the time-honored old-fashioned way of all relatively stable political systems. This zero-sum crap is going to get them slaughtered. Their evident belief that they are in the majority is extremely dangerous under present circumstances.

2/24/2006 10:29:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

" I'm assuming the Pope is a heavyweight"
A Super Heavy in today's field of feminized public officeholders.
We give up our most powerful weapon:
The Truth.

2/24/2006 10:35:00 AM  
Blogger PeterBoston said...

Speaking of feminized men, you'll appreciate the new German word I learned at the Captains.


Is this a great word or what?


2/24/2006 10:36:00 AM  
Blogger PeterBoston said...


2/24/2006 10:44:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

"Try using these new words in a sentence, such as:
"The American media consists of sitzpinklers who cannot summon the sammenhold to publish the Prophet cartoons in defense of the free speech they espouse."

Say it often.
" - Captain Ed
Laura Ingraham is going to be there with Hitchens.
He was on her show talking about the situation with der sitzpinklers.

2/24/2006 10:50:00 AM  
Blogger PeterBoston said...

I must have the spelling variation. 'pinkler is even better.

2/24/2006 10:54:00 AM  
Blogger PeterBoston said...

mika do you drink before dinner?

2/24/2006 11:00:00 AM  
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2/24/2006 11:04:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

Speaking of Primates
Mika's on the (Nitrous) Bottle Again.

2/24/2006 11:09:00 AM  
Blogger PeterBoston said...

Over a period of three weeks his captors stabbed him countless times, cut off his ears and fingers, used some type of corrosive liquid on him and repeatedly burned him.

PipeLine News

I recall seeing something about the incident but had no idea of the depth of the depravity. Maybe the MSM (EU and US) was right about not providing the details. I'd want a Blu82 on whatever neighborhood those perps were from.

2/24/2006 11:12:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

Wobbly 8:18 AM,
Mika's never seen a dull behind, but that's just him.
My girl Algeria, when she's mad
does she ever Hiss.

2/24/2006 11:13:00 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...


Put on your Bikini and let's get married. Wobbly will minister.

2/24/2006 11:17:00 AM  
Blogger Charles said...

desert rat said...
Anyway, these Nigerian Christians, they don't seem to turn a cheek.

The reason for the virulence of the Nigerian christians imho is because they are really up against it. They can see very explicitly the consequences of bad behavior.

What that means explicitly is that the Nigerian Anglicans see the homosexuality in the British

Anglican church as being the flip side of the dark practices of human sacrifice that goes on in Nigeria. These practices get exported to Great Britian from time to time in the form of mutilated nigerians that turn up on Thames.

fyi in the all over the ancient world human sacrifice and homosexuality in the priest hood went hand in hand in hand.

2/24/2006 11:27:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

Mika 11:04 AM,
That's quite a song,
but are you very well red?

2/24/2006 11:29:00 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...


2/24/2006 11:31:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

Champagne here, it's breakfast.

2/24/2006 11:36:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

Gives a whole new meaning to "Priest

2/24/2006 11:39:00 AM  
Blogger PeterBoston said...

Ynetnews has more detail on that horrific torture/murder in Paris.

There appears to be a tacit agreement between the (French) media and police to downplay these attempts and the role of these young men from the suburbs, already “suffering” from bad publicity due to the riots of last November. In those riots, hundreds of cars were set aflame and violent clashes between police and young thugs took place.

Anybody know the whereabouts of Mrs. O'Leary's cow?

2/24/2006 11:42:00 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

When in da Hood, do as..

2/24/2006 11:46:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

And so, pb, the Enemy adds another name to the victim list.

This time in Paris, but wait, the murderers, they are just a gang of common criminals, so no, the murder of Ilan Halimi is not part of the War on Terror, nor even to be considered collateral damage in the Mohammedan Wars.

Just another crime victim.
Nothing to see here, just move on, please.

2/24/2006 12:02:00 PM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

Moderates: marooned between red and blue states.

That Paris deal, it appears to be having some sort of major political effect, with all the top echelon church leaders and politicos--included but not limited to Chirac and de Villipin/Napoleon, showing up for the funeral, and making "today the world changes" type remarks.

A martyr is laid to rest. A 23 year old cell-phone salesman, literally crucified by PC bacilli. We should all learn his name.

2/24/2006 12:07:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

What Crime?
The Crime of neglect perhaps.
Perps for the Perps, I say.

2/24/2006 12:08:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

The Truth is a Thought Crime.

2/24/2006 12:08:00 PM  
Blogger desert rat said...

His death, sad as it is, is just another crime, committed by Criminals, not another setback for the "West", not just not another one of more than a thousand slices the Mohammedan are cutting into Western Civilization.

Poor Mr Ilan Halimi.
May he rest in Peace.

2/24/2006 12:09:00 PM  
Blogger PeterBoston said...

This one hits the bone. A "community" participated in the horrific torture/murder of Ilan Halimi. Even Dostoevsky never plumbed these depths.

2/24/2006 12:14:00 PM  
Blogger desert rat said...

Why if we blamed the Mohammedans, their offense would seem to be part of unceasing complaint and whining, on our part.

The French, they've seen the light.
Look how high their banner flys.

They've seen Reality, they know the Deal.
No unceasing complaint and whining from those Frenchmen. They are on the Road to Peace, in our time.

2/24/2006 12:18:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

I'm tired of the blamed Mohammedans, damnit!

2/24/2006 12:24:00 PM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

Astonishingly few generations have passed since ready-for-change Parisians set up the guillotine and offed about 30,000 of the unwelcome.

2/24/2006 12:27:00 PM  
Blogger PeterBoston said...

I can understand why disclosure of the details has been left to the unregulated media. When placed in perspective events like this delegitimize governments. Not all at once, but there's more than a few neurons that will stay locked in on the hows, whys, and whos.

2/24/2006 12:30:00 PM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

France should arrest and convict and imprison for life, the entire apartment building of look-the-other way fellow travelers. Next time around the neighbors will be more human.

2/24/2006 12:30:00 PM  
Blogger desert rat said...

A lot has happen, in Europe, during those ensueing Generations, buddy.
I think the men of France died along the way.
Whether in Moscow or Verdun, who's to say, but castrated they are, nere shadows of their former selves.
Today for France, sitzpinklers

2/24/2006 12:31:00 PM  
Blogger PeterBoston said...

rat gets the prize for first use of sitzpinkler in a sentence. What a great word!

2/24/2006 12:35:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Bridgette the Warrior Princess,
and that Italian Lady,
their only hope.

2/24/2006 12:39:00 PM  
Blogger desert rat said...

I mean if the Pakistanis were to be held responsible for the actions of aQ within their Communities,
there could be a War.
Heaven forbid! somebody would get hurt, well, we can't have that, now, can we?

The Nanny State, she still is supreme

2/24/2006 12:45:00 PM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

Right, Rat--a case there--but this is about to turn into a survival matter. I think the drums are already beating.

2/24/2006 12:47:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

African American Rights

2/24/2006 12:51:00 PM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

France was gutted in the trenches, but she would not have been had she not held her ground to begin with.

It has come time to encourage them, to help them remember when.

2/24/2006 12:52:00 PM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

The American soccer team filled the big stadium in Mexico City recently.

Witnesses say the entire 115,000 fans chanted "Osama, Osama" throughout the "Star-Spangled Banner".

"19th Century or Bust!"

2/24/2006 12:56:00 PM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

Soccer fans, of course, are rabble.

2/24/2006 12:58:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

I was trying to forget that one.

2/24/2006 12:59:00 PM  
Blogger desert rat said...

I would help them to remember, buddy, but Ms Rice and her minions think that it would be a bad idea.
The Muslims, you see, could take offense.
We do not want to do anything to make Muslims mad. That would be bad.
Because Islam, Islam is our friend, it is a Religion of Peace.
We have to help the Muslims to take back their Religion of Peace from a "few" Mohammedan hijackers.

The hijackers, they have boxcutters, you know, very dangerous, people could get sliced.

Over a Thousand Times
& barely notice

2/24/2006 01:00:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Then there's the So Korean Youths.

Rush figured we'd benefit competetively by exporting liberalism, but perhaps he thought there would be some limit.

2/24/2006 01:01:00 PM  
Blogger desert rat said...

I believe the SKoreans have close to a million man Army. A bit smaller than the North's, but much better equipped.

We have what now 35,000 or so, there. To what end? Must we still "trip wire" the DMZ?

Cannot the South defend itself, after 50 plus years?

Those Korean kids may have a point, after a fashion.

Our tactical nukes would still be on call. Our men out of the impact area.
Seems fair to me.

2/24/2006 01:05:00 PM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

read the VDH--he's back in from the zone, saying we best do what we be do.

2/24/2006 01:07:00 PM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

Shoulda got Seoul outta arty range, in the Panmunjon talks--somehow.

2/24/2006 01:09:00 PM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

Doug, what about that SoKo poll--we have no details at all on it. Could be a giant nothing.

2/24/2006 01:12:00 PM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

The two private sectors--USA and SoKo--are up to the eyeballs in new business deals. It looks like a firming alliance in every hard metric, Taiwan, Japan, SoKo, USA, Australia, India all biggies, all in deep with one another.

2/24/2006 01:16:00 PM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

All with a weather eye on PRC chicom military. It's just fantastic to believe that SoKo youths like Kim the Beast--my gawd, he's a monster, and they know it better than anyone. That poll must have a McGuffin in it.

2/24/2006 01:20:00 PM  
Blogger desert rat said...

Korea, South, is a mature country, buddy. It was in the earlly '80's, when I was there, it has only improved.

The Alliance shown be maintained, but there are no Korean troops securing the AZ border with Mexico.
I do not see why US ground troops should still be guarding Seoul.

The SK's are more than capable of that task, has been for decades.

Our troops in Korea have not intimidated the North, not at all. If they had, Mr Kim would not be sitting at the Nuclear table.

2/24/2006 01:20:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Hope so.
Right after 9-11 I checked out some college age websites over there, tho' and there was plenty of Anti-Americanism goin on.
Anti Military too.
Same type of stuff, like the Korean War was our fault!

2/24/2006 01:21:00 PM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

Anti-Americanism = pro NYTimes-ism.

2/24/2006 01:21:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Like our New Lefties, they probably don't run too hard or deep when you take away their toys.

2/24/2006 01:23:00 PM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...


2/24/2006 01:23:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

"Anti-Americanism = pro NYTimes-ism. "
What was anyone over there to think?
We sowed the seeds of Voluntary Stalinism as you linked to the other day.

2/24/2006 01:25:00 PM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

exactly. Hillel's Prayer, "If I am not for myself, who then will be for me?"

2/24/2006 01:26:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Fashion or not, though, it ain't harmless:
Look what Dean and the Move On crowd have wrought.

2/24/2006 01:28:00 PM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

No, fashion is very real. The material equivalent of willed emotion.

2/24/2006 01:29:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

I gotta git, or I'll be in Honeydo Hell.

2/24/2006 01:30:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Our Will's been stolen,
we must steel ourselves.

2/24/2006 01:32:00 PM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

yeh, you better get back out front and arrange them pineapples & coconuts.

2/24/2006 01:33:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

LOL, later!

2/24/2006 01:35:00 PM  
Blogger bobalharb said...

If one is not wide awake in the morning one might become a sitzsprinkler.

2/24/2006 01:37:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

I graduated from Coconut Tech before the age of Digital Technology.

2/24/2006 01:38:00 PM  
Blogger desert rat said...

or messy

2/24/2006 01:48:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Rat 1:20 PM,
More intimidating in my day when we had nukes on mobile launchers!

2/24/2006 01:51:00 PM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

Clown College offers remedial coconuttery.

2/24/2006 01:52:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Kerry Backs Port Deal If NSA Taps UAE Calls

2/24/2006 02:07:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Bush: Port Deal Provides Scapegoat in Terror Attack

(2006-02-22) — President George Bush today defended his administration’s support of a deal to let Dubai Ports World, a state-owned company based in the United Arab Emirates (UAE), manage six major U.S. sea ports, saying the arrangement
“will give us someone else to blame when terrorists hit one of our ports.”

“Right now, a terror attack through one of those ports would tear this nation apart,” said President Bush.
“Some would blame the union longshoremen.
Others would fault the major U.S. businesses that move products through the ports.
Some might even blame our closest allies, the British, who currently manage the operations.
It would pit labor versus management, brother against brother.”

2/24/2006 02:11:00 PM  
Blogger PeterBoston said...

Kerry. Now that's why sitzpinkler was created.

Do these folks really believe that much in mass amnesia or do they still believe that the NYT has not been outed as a liberal rag?

2/24/2006 02:12:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Aussies Say "G'day"
Kerry says "Bidet"

2/24/2006 02:23:00 PM  
Blogger buddy larsen said...

belafonte sing "Bidet-o, bidet-a-a-o,"

2/24/2006 03:03:00 PM  

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