Friday, July 08, 2005

What the Butler Saw

Mark Steyn talks about the absurdities highlighted by the London bombings. We profess to smile, he says, until we are forced to cry. Then like fools, we smile again.

As I wrote in The Daily Telegraph last March, "History repeats itself: farce, farce, farce, but sooner or later tragedy is bound to kick in."  ... To three high-profile farces, we now have that high-profile tragedy, of impressive timing.  ... the jihad, via one of its wholly owned but independently operated subsidiaries, scheduled an atrocity for the start of the G8 summit and managed to pull it off - at a time when ports and airports and internal security were all supposed to be on heightened alert. That's quite a feat.

From sanctuaries forever exempt from attack by the "political class" attacks are hatched against which no protection is offered is except passive defense, a passive defense that is bound to fail because "one day - on Monday or Wednesday, in January or November, when an immigration official or a luggage checker is a bit absent-minded and distracted" an attacker is bound to slip through. And if ever he is caught he will be sprung by any of the high priced lawyers the Left has hired for legal aid. Because despite the big words most of European civilization is unwilling and unable to follow the nomadic raider back into his lair. We watch the raiders ride away, shake our fists from civilization's walls and promise to be more vigilant next time. Then we go back to doing nothing.

... Islamism projects itself long-range to any point of the planet with an ease most G8 militaries can't manage. Small cells operate in the nooks and crannies of a free society while the political class seems all but unaware of their existence.

It's called asymmetrical warfare. They war and we fare -- as well as we can. Did the raiders receive help from within the city gates? It's a question, Steyn says, that no one is allowed to ask.

Did we learn enough, for example, from the case of Omar Sheikh? He's the fellow convicted of the kidnapping and beheading in Karachi of the American journalist Daniel Pearl. He's usually described as "Pakistani" but he is, in fact, a citizen of the United Kingdom - born in Whipps Cross Hospital, educated at Nightingale Primary School in Wanstead, the Forest School in Snaresbrook and the London School of Economics. He travels on a British passport. Unlike yours truly, a humble Canadian subject of the Crown, Mr Sheikh gets to go through the express lane at Heathrow.

Or take Abdel Karim al-Tuhami al-Majati, a senior al-Qa'eda member from Morocco killed by Saudi security forces in al Ras last April. One of Mr Majati's wives is a Belgian citizen resident in Britain. In Pakistan, the jihadists speak openly of London as the terrorist bridgehead to Europe. Given the British jihadists who've been discovered in the thick of it in Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Palestine, Chechnya and Bosnia, only a fool would believe they had no plans for anything closer to home - or, rather, "home". Most of us can only speculate at the degree of Islamist penetration in the United Kingdom because we simply don't know, and multicultural pieties require that we keep ourselves in the dark.

And there's the rub. A politically correct policy that requires Europe not to know who is in the 5th column will will inevitably force it to assume guilt in those of a certain persuasion in a moment of mortal danger. Internment and mass deportation is what governments resort to when they don't know who the real spies are. Political correctness is the practice of requiring ignorance indefinitely against the calculation that the moment of moral danger will never come because nobody knows what the hell they are going to do then. It's at that moment, as Steyn observes, that farce, farce and farce becomes tragedy.


Blogger miklos rosza said...

Political correctness is the "soft" component of the jihad, a component which the jihadis count on the West using against itself, suicidally, again and again.

7/08/2005 12:39:00 AM  
Blogger Anointiata Delenda Est said...

Euston station (large mainline station) being evacuated in London.


7/08/2005 12:48:00 AM  
Blogger Anointiata Delenda Est said...

Euston now re-opened. False alarm.


7/08/2005 01:11:00 AM  
Blogger ledger said...

Blair maybe correct in saying that the majority of Islamic people are peaceful and law abiding. But, he fails to say the other portions are real bad apples. Blair has a real problem to clean up.

Inside Mosques in the UK violence and hate are commonly preached. Islamic has the videos. Here are a few samples:

[Picture of bearded Muslim bomber]

Video Clip 002
Description: Aden bomber gives details
of USA embassy attack two days after attack,
in private al-Qaida meeting in the UK held on
10th Aug 1998. This person was arrested in
Yemen 5 months later, and released 5 months
before attack on USS Cole. Note his support
for Iraq.

[Picture of Hamza]

Video Clip 003
Description: What Hamza says about
bombing Embassies. And look out for his description
of bombing a Embassy... its like a Ship?
Does he mean the USS Cole the Aden Bomb Plotters
were sent to bomb but got caught?

[Picture of masked man holding an automatic rifle]

Video Clip 004
Description: British armed muslims on
film admit to killing hundreds of serbs on film.
We never knew the UN gave them permission to
kill in other country's the full tape is to
bloody to air as it shows mass graves!

[pictures of terrorists in street]

Video Clip 006.WMV
Description: Hi-jackers of air craft and
Hi-jacking of Demos al-Qaida and other Terror
groups looking for a voice and new members.
Among human rights and other Mid-Eastern
Supporters in London Demo!

[Picture of Abu "one eye" Hamza waving his hook arm]

Video Clip 010
Description: Abu Hamza -- wanted in Yemen for numerous
instances of terrorism -- Yet the British
protect him.

[Picture of Hamza and his hook]

Video Clip 011.WMV
Description: Abu Hamza a friend of Chechen
Terror Groups who paid for his
Mosque in London?

[Picture of Recruiting ad]

Video Clip 007
Description: Demonstrations of al-Qaida and other
groups looking for a voice and recruiting
new members. Among human rights and
Palestinian supporters at a London demonstration.
Shows al-Qaida inter linking between groups.
The Bali link with al-Qaida was already there.
The first attack on Trade Centre in 1993
was carried out by a group lead by
Omar Abdul Rahman.

[Picture of bearded men with skull caps in mosque]

Video Clip 005.WMV
Inside Finsbury Park Mosque, London


Samples of Audio clips:

Audio Clip B-001

Description: "Everywhere, these are the women of mass destruction to the kuffar [unbelievers], and these are the action that put terror in their hearts...She took her son, she took him herself, and she filmed a video with him for him to go and do a martyrdom operation against the Zionists... she was waiting all night and after that he went for his mission. He was shaheed [martyred] and he inflict a lot of suffering and terror in the hearts of Zionists!

"This happened right now in the front of us, in the television, we have seen the tape, you've seen the video if you haven't seen it, go and ask for it! "This kind of women, when they miss their killed children... they become more happy, more anxious to go and see them, they want to sacrifice more and more."

Audio Clip B-022

Now we have said before that it's our religion. We can't concentrate, we can't come to Verse 5 in Sura 7* until we leave this for Tony Blair, and we leave this for the (military of Korea), and we leave this for Hosni Mubarak.

*[Text: No plea had they {infidels}, when Our terror came unto them, save that they said: Lo! We were wrong-doers.]

Audio and Video clips from inside a British Mosque

It's clear that Blair and MI6 (or the current internal security apparatus) needs to do a great deal of house cleaning. This house cleaning would encompass the actual application of a UK version of the Patriot Act, interrogating this one eye'd hooked "Cleric" for additional information in the recent terror killings, freezing terrorist's funds, adjusting the deportation rules for mass killers, enabling UK special agents to liquidate terrorists before they detonate the bombs, and the realization that certain organizations or states that sponsor terrorism must be neutralized by military action.

Further, Blair must start using the alley fight set of rules. He must use agents and/or proxy fighters to eliminate certain "clerics" and financiers of said terror "clerics." He must also get the message out that "either you are with us or against us." The George Galloway's of the political world must feel Blair's wrath. And, in the final analysis, if it comes down to UK survival, the "Dresden Option" must be considered.

In addition, Bush Administration must be willing to let the UK fully defend it self (ie: if the Syrians, Saudis, or Pakistanis are the root of the problem then let the British extract justice). This goes from top to bottom, all the terror sponsors are targets, information sharing and operational sharing are a must do.

The British came to America's aid in the Iraq and Afghan war. We must be prepared to do the same.

And, we must realize that if the war requires utter destruction of certain terrorists strongholds - then so be it. Let's get it done quickly.

7/08/2005 01:16:00 AM  
Blogger Kevin said...

I wonder if Al Qaida isn’t also going after their “Left”. If you look at the location of the three explosions in the Tube, one of them immediately leaps out as bizarre. Certainly the bomb between King’s Cross and Russell Square as well as the blast between Liverpool St. and Aldgate make perfect sense from the terrorist’s point of view, both are close to crucial nodes in the transport system. But what about Edgware Road? While it is certainly nowhere near being an important tube station in London, the Edgware Road above the station is famous for being home to many Westernized, middle class Arabs who have resided in London probably longer than they ever lived in their home countries. It would be an exaggeration to call it the Arab world’s version of Berkeley, but it is certainly the highest concentration of open-minded, assimilated Arab “liberals” in the world. Now, of course, the population above ground has only a small relationship, at any given moment, to the passengers on the carriages zipping around beneath their feet, but still, if Al Qaida wanted to send a message to their Howard Deans and Wesley Clarks; Edgware Station was just the place to do it. You’ll notice they didn’t attack anywhere near Finsbury Park station, ground zero of Islamic Fundamentalism in London.

7/08/2005 02:50:00 AM  
Blogger Ticker said...


Others have observed the same thing. There was a submessage in the bombings aimed at keeping British Muslims in line. That has ever been the case. During the French-Algerian War several times more Muslims were killed than French. The lesson of terror is that you don't have to defeat the enemy army if you can control your "side". The enemy army is defeated thereby.

It's easy for me to take a resolute stand against the Jihad. As a non-Muslim I haven't got any relatives to alienate or kinfolk who I'll put in danger of reprisal. But for many a Muslim, to cross the Jihadis means internal exile from all that you have known and loved. If you leave, you leave forever.

Worst of all, there is no one standing across the chasm welcoming you to the other side. On the contrary, there's an army of Leftists relentlessly pushing you back, exhorting you to "stay true to your roots" and fawning on you for insulting everything in the country you've come to live in. What is there in such a country to pledge faith with, when its leading members are so faithless themselves?

The first condition for deserving to win a war is to make yourself worth of survival. On the day the West rediscovers its values and puts its light upon a hill then men will come from far around, from the ranks of the enemy even, to rally to its banner. But much of the West has gone dark; and its magnificent cities full of vacant laughter. What did the butler see? That the lordling was unworthy of his title. That the European knight has mouldered in his armor.

7/08/2005 03:55:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

In one of the previous threads there was a post noting that Glen Reynolds was musing about that also.
You might check that out, or just check Instapundit.

7/08/2005 04:39:00 AM  
Blogger goesh said...

- the poor sods are not even allowed to be armed. A jihadi with an AK in a crowded market could do as much damage until the Bobbys arrived with clubs to subdue him for therapy. At least here in America some farmer with a deer rifle in his truck could drop the bastard before he inserted his 2cd clip. It's a sad day indeed in many respects.

7/08/2005 04:39:00 AM  
Blogger goesh said...

I can see why your site meter reads 7+ million. Keep up the good work! Have any fatwas against you been delivered yet from the Left of the jihadis?

7/08/2005 04:46:00 AM  
Blogger James Kielland said...


You're really on a roll. Thank you.

There's so many great things you are touching on, but I think your comments on how many muslims are trapped by the tactics of the jihadis (and the Left) are really worth highlighting.

I would argue it's not just Muslims who are trapped by this. How many other people in high visibility positions would wish to call jihadi attention to themselves? Celebrities, wealthy industrialists, influential media personalities, and politicians all come to mind. No one wants to be the next Van Gogh.

Just before posting this I was re-visiting van Creveld's "The Transformation of War." We're so used to thinking of war in terms of state vs. state that there are so many strategic realities that many of us are overlooking. You're doing a great job of pointing them out.

Part of the re-discovery of our values will come when we accept that many of our old values do not fit this new reality. That will hopefully lead us to being able to dispense with many of the false alternatives that abound in discussions about the current conflict. And then let us hope that we have the vision to adjust our values without betraying them. The consequences of failure are too high.

7/08/2005 04:47:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

"Video Clip 002
Description: Aden bomber gives details of USA embassy attack two days after attack, in private al-Qaida meeting in the UK held on 10th Aug 1998.
This person was arrested in Yemen 5 months later, and released 5 months before attack on USS Cole. Note his support for Iraq.
This was when the infamous Babs Bodine was ambassador to Yemen.
Another Clinton appointee who would later kick our top counterterror FBI agent out of the country when he was trying to investigate Cole.
She and Mr. Plame, aka Joe Wilson, were two of a kind:
Poli Sci types from UC Santa Barbara.
She had her students set up their own toy United Nations and play like they were the real crooks and pedophiles.
Bush almost disastrously appointed her to be Jay Garner's replacement, or some such in Iraq.
Looking back, she was likely pushed by the Powell State Dept.
When we complain about Bremmer, we forget how lucky we were not to have Babs!
She sat around her office in Yemen dresssed like a hippy, and required the FBI to be unarmed while there!
(was she responsible for the no bullets in the rifles rule on the Cole?)
She WAS involved in having Cole refuel there when there were many other, more secure alternatives.

7/08/2005 04:59:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

From Waiting for Disaster Thread, since we are doing that, and being correct, both, here:
Andrew said...
evildave - Europe’s fetish with multiculturalism sees very similar to Rome’s period of barbarization.

.Based on my experience of both North America and Europe I'd say the former are far more taken with multiculturalism than the latter.
Just this week the Europeans announced plans to start flying illegal immigrants back to their own countries.
Can you imagine George W Bush deporting the Mexican illegals who are taking over large sections of the US?
Opposition to the multicultural experiment can be seen in the rise of far right political parties in Belgium, France and even parts of Britain. Yet the supposedly most right wing American president of recent years appears to be an out and out supporter of mass illegal immigration from the Third World.

7/08/2005 05:25:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

Border security and the threat of attack. If reports of the Islamists working with MS-13 are true then this is our largest danger zone.
The frontier is so porous that millions of criminals cross it each year. When I was a youth the Federal Government's primary role was to deliver the mail and defend the borders. Today the Feds have privatized the Mail and abdicated responsibility for border security.
Europe may have it's challenges but, then again, so do US

7/08/2005 05:39:00 AM  
Blogger erp said...

Putting the onus for this latest atrocity on careless security at airports or bus terminals or the police is wrong. The bombs in London weren't sophisticated modern weapons smuggled in from exotic points about the globe, the components for suicide bombs are readily available in an open society like ours and instructions for making them can be found with a few Googling clicks.

The onus for the proliferation of terrorism must be put directly where it belongs on the heads of the leftwing politicians, media and celebrities who with their public statements give terrorists the ammunition they need to keep on killing.

The public must rise up and tell these hideous examples of self-loathing to shut up and those who control the dissemination of information better take a good look at themselves to see what they have wrought with their litany of lies and their distortion of reality in their relentless promotion of the glories of worldwide socialism.

It is our political will that will stop this wanton killing, not better security, not more dialogue, not more understanding, not classes on Islam in our public schools, not less profiling at security points. In others, we must stop what we're doing and get real.

Here's a clue to Reuters and the ACLU. We don't have a problem with insurgents, rebels, freedom fighters or criminals, we have a problem with mindless hate-filled 21st century elites in partnership with mindless hate-filled avatars of ignorance and superstition from the 12th century.

There is no imaged alternate universe where Islam will triumph. The glory days of Islamic culture in the middle ages are long gone and eventually Allah will be just an Arabian nightmare no matter how many innocents are killed and no matter how feverish the hatred fomented by the peaceniks among the Islamic leadership.

The culprits are known. Let's remove them from society and stop sacrificing any more innocents on the altar of political correctness.

7/08/2005 05:59:00 AM  
Blogger goesh said...

I know an Iraqi refugee from the first gulf war. He told me recently that all the time Mexicans are approaching him and start talking to him in Spanish. We are going to soon have what just happened in London. The mexican border is the perfect conduit, the perfect blend. Any jihadi that can learn to fly an airplane can learn to speak spanish. We have large population centers near the border. It's not like they would have to travel all the way to Maine to strike, now is it? Our own greed for cheap mexican labor will facilitate the next attack here at home. A couple of the devils with AKs in a mall willing to be gunned down by the cops or civilians would serve their purpose quite well. Si! Bring em' on, Bush, bring em' on to stoop and fetch for $6.00 an hour, you jackass.

7/08/2005 06:06:00 AM  
Blogger Papa Bear said...

re ledger's comments: The Western "elite" is deep into a state of cognitive dissonance, and thus is unable to really acknowledge what is going on

A member of the "elite" is unable to say "that culture is inherently evil and incompatible with civilization" (except, of course, when talking about Christian conservatives). He's unable to say "I consider the lives of my family and friends more valuable than the lives of those who are hostile to me and mine".

And yet, we are biologically programmed to value our own children and extended family, and protect them from harm.

When the break comes that resolves this psychological conflict, it may be very sudden. And we may find ourselves heading not towards a "Dresden option", but a "Carthage option"

7/08/2005 06:07:00 AM  
Blogger Anointiata Delenda Est said...

James Kielland,

Very well put. We are in a new paradigm, on many fronts.

We may need to steel ourselves for a very old paradigm - The Carthage option, as Papa Bear puts it.


7/08/2005 06:21:00 AM  
Blogger Dan said...

These people need a bloodying. Evidently doing less is not more effective. Let us err on the other side, for once. I'm curious.

7/08/2005 06:29:00 AM  
Blogger Nathan said...

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7/08/2005 08:13:00 AM  
Blogger Nathan said...

Carthago delanda est!

7/08/2005 08:15:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

so here goes goesh
perfectly good point about the lack of security on our southern border. then at the end he can no longer contain himself, dropping into the gutter of name calling he looses his credibility. what a shame.
The laws of the republic and economics were in place long before Bush took the white house.
Ceaser Chavez, founder of the United Farm Workers was anti illegal immigrant. His people, native US born ethic Mexicans, were losing jobs to the illegals. His own brother went to the border to try to stop the influx, in the '70's. He resorted to fist fighting and physical intimidation.
We've come along way, baby.
Next time try to present your ideas w/out the name calling. You'll get further in life that way

7/08/2005 09:08:00 AM  
Blogger husker_met said...

I particularly like the Carthage reference. It implies the struggle between Western (Roman) and Eastern (Carthaginian) ideals. Had Rome lost then, our world would be a much different place today. If we lose today, we turn the future over to Muslim sensibilities.

Therefore, I'm all in for the Carthage option, and would gladly bring my own salt. But the question remains: Where is AQ's Carthage?

Even in a scenario where we level Mecca or Medina, there's still a lot of Muslims scattered across the world. The enemy is among us.

To me, the enemy's Carthage is not a place but an idea. That idea is that Western Liberalism fosters a good atmosphere in which to do their deeds, and will protect them from culpability.

While AQ may need to control its Arab population to win, it also needs to control the populations of the West, or at least the way they think. To a large degree, the international Left has been complicit in helping AQ do so, not to mention providing fertile ground for such an idea to germinate.

The international Left worked to institute the social and legal systems that have allowed terror an easier atmosphere for operation. Thus, an Arab immigrant needs only to squeak "Racism/profiling/unfair treatment/hate crime!" and without regard to the merit of the claim, the Left will rally behind them. Moreover to avoid such charges, the rest of us must adhere to notions of cultural and moral equivalency. The Left, over time, has trained us to think in ways detrimental to our own well being and survival.

The bombers in London, Madrid and New York were not specially transported in just to do the job. These people were living as part of a larger resident immigrant population. That larger population has never, to my knowledge, been held accountable for the actions of its members.

Further, Western politicians have not pointed out the suicidal nature of tolerance-gone-wrong. They have, in fact, promoted it politically and culturally.

AQ can control the Arab/Muslim populations through fear of reprisal. Why then can we not exert some measure of control through fear of isolation? We begin to do this when we elect representatives who publicly advocate Muslim self-policing and general suspicion of those who will not drop the dime on their own bad apples.

When we have reached that point, we will have breached the walls of AQ's Carthage.

7/08/2005 09:17:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

ot but of interest to the Cat
Fox News reports that eight cabinet members of Ms Arroyo's Philipeano Government have resigned over the election scandal.
Read it here first.

7/08/2005 09:36:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

papa bear said,
"A member of the "elite" is unable to say "that culture is inherently evil and incompatible with civilization" (except, of course, when talking about Christian conservatives). He's unable to say "I consider the lives of my family and friends more valuable than the lives of those who are hostile to me and mine."

"And yet, we are biologically programmed to value our own children and extended family, and protect them from harm.
Dennis Prager devotes 1 hour a week to "The Happiness Hour," which I have rarely heard, but today's which was a repeat of last week dealt with the necessity of a group identity larger than yourself being a necessary prerequisite to being a happy, healthy human.
Spoke of being an American and a Jew, but it goes on and on in terms of all the group identities that are considered Verboten by the left.
(Since, being Nazi's at heart, only one group identity is acceptable: Liberal!)
(Just put that in there for 'Rat :-) , and obviously not true, since it is fine to be Mr/Mrs Gay Group Member, Mr African American, Transgender, and etc, AS LONG AS YOU ARE ALSO LIBERAL.)
Anyhoo: Most more traditional American groups as we all know are now unacceptable:
"American" "Male" "Father," all male group like Rotary used to be, Republican, Christian, Italian or Mexican American (gotta be Chicano, "Hispanic," or worse.)
Talked about how Europeans are the same way, except of course as they define themselves to be members of an Anti American Community.
Thus American History leaving out all significant aspects of what being an American means, esp American MALE.
Great program, listen to it if you can.

7/08/2005 11:45:00 AM  
Blogger Papa Bear said...

re husker_met's comment about where is AlQ's Carthage: AlQ could not exist without financial backing. Find the money men, and deal with them, and AlQ disappears.

Do a google for ' "Golden Chain" Osama'
Here's a start:,1518,359690,00.html

7/08/2005 11:52:00 AM  
Blogger truepeers said...

Doug, 11.45, Bingo! (soon they'll be talking about the Belmont Club like we're a secret conspiracy to overthrow the land... probably already are). But there is a long history of this - presentday PC cannot take all the credit. In the earliest years of the AMerican republic, politics often turned on loosely and occasionally strongly defined Masonic and antiMasonic parties.

7/08/2005 01:08:00 PM  
Blogger ledger said...

Papa bear, OK if you must call it the "Carthage Option" then so be it. I was just pointing to a smaller less bloody conflict as an example.

Further, Papa bear does a good job of the describing the elite helpless giant of western society. They have been in the ivory tower for so long they can't think straight. We are at the fork in the road. The break will come and there may indeed be Carthage like set of wars.

Doug said "...the infamous Babs Bodine was ambassador to Yemen.
Another Clinton appointee who would later kick our top counterterror FBI agent out of the country when he was trying to investigate Cole."

Yes, noted Doug. I remember in the incident and despise its outcome.

7/08/2005 01:10:00 PM  
Blogger Fotheringill said...

Falkland Islands an ideal Guantano Bay.

7/08/2005 04:33:00 PM  
Blogger Pangloss said...

Wretchard had an excellent point about there being nobody there with open arms to take ex-Muslims in and give them a new "family," a new social and/or religious group to give them a sense of belonging and spiritual fulfilment instead of the shattering emptiness of a lonesome, atheist, Nietschean-ubermensch existence. While any Christian church would be glad to open its arms, only the most in-your-face fundamentalist churches would reach out and tell every future ex-Muslim about it. Personally I'd rather see them become Catholic.


7/08/2005 08:47:00 PM  
Blogger Charles said...

And there's the rub. A politically correct policy that requires Europe not to know who is in the 5th column will will inevitably force it to assume guilt in those of a certain persuasion in a moment of mortal danger. Internment and mass deportation is what governments resort to when they don't know who the real spies are. Political correctness is the practice of requiring ignorance indefinitely against the calculation that the moment of moral danger will never come because nobody knows what the hell they are going to do then. It's at that moment, as Steyn observes, that farce, farce and farce becomes tragedy.
well then the french expulsions of the moslems there may come sooner than I thought. But then the cost of hydrogen and water desalination is coming down pretty fast too.

At the recent G8 Bush/Blair made the first official link between pollution and expensive oil. The big idea is that people can clean the air and save themselves some money if everyone pitches in on hydrogen research.

How does this tie in with water desalination. well you need water to make energy and you need energy to make water--or so senator domenici says. so he's folding all the water desalination research projects scattered through various agencies into the DOE where there's a lot of money going for energy research.

Currently the dream is to have the world running on green hydrogen cars. Add to that the dream of all the world's deserts turned green with cheap desalinized water pumped inland with cheap hydrogen got from the water being pumped inland....

Now that's left is for some president to enunciate the dream of cheap hydrogen cars for the industrialized north and cheap water for belt of desert countries--and suddenly you'd everyone in the world on the same page with the same vision for the 21st century.
and the moslems will have a place to go back to when they are kicked out of europe.

7/08/2005 10:16:00 PM  
Blogger Karridine said...

This COULD HAVE been a lot different, when the One promised by Jesus of Nazareth came, had humankind accepted Him.

But NO, the Muslim clergy HAD TO kill Him, and after the 750 Christian riflemen failed to kill Him firing at point-blank range, the mullahs HAD TO use Muslim soldiers... just like Islamic Hadith had predicted centuries before!

Now, we see the fallout and sequellae to His rejection by Muslims around the world: their preference for CLERGY over GOD places them in a HELL of a situation, and American troops are immune to it!

7/09/2005 06:43:00 AM  
Blogger kim said...

Debka is reporting that Birmingham was evacuated and bombs exploded by police. BBC does say that there was an evacuation:

7/09/2005 03:39:00 PM  
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7/09/2005 03:50:00 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

husker_met said:
But the question remains: Where is AQ's Carthage?

The heart of the Islamic world is in Arabian peninsula. Without the Hajj to Makkah/Yathrib, Islam loses its mystical appeal, and most likely its appeal in general. If Allah can't protect his holy places he's not the greatest, is he. And neither are his cadres.

7/09/2005 03:51:00 PM  
Blogger Barry said...

The only way to win the War On Terrorism is to fight it WWII-style. When the enemy's country of origin has been laid to utter waste, they will cease to be a factor.

You'll notice it's some 60 years since the end of WWII, and we've had no more trouble from the Japanese or Germans.

Unfortunately, Americans will not support this type of warfare until AFTER a nuclear device has leveled Houston, or Detroit, or Boston, or San Diego, or...

7/09/2005 05:25:00 PM  
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7/17/2005 03:51:00 PM  

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