Wednesday, January 16, 2008

Virtual murder, virtual education

A British Muslim IT student and son of a Moroccan diplomat was accused of being "al Qaeda's top cyber terrorist" by British authorities. Younes Tsouli, 23, "posted included messages from Osama bin Laden and images of the kidnapping and murder of hostages in Iraq such as American Nick Berg."



What's interesting about the Younes case is that it marks "the first time anyone in Britain had been prosecuted for inciting terrorist murder purely based on the Internet"

Assistant Commissioner Peter Clarke, the head of the Met's counterterrorism operations, said: “It was the first virtual conspiracy to murder that we have seen.” ...

At first intelligence operatives who came across his activities dismissed him as a joke. It was only when anti-terrorist detectives began trawling through files on his computer after his arrest that they realised his true significance. When he was seized, forensic science officers found that Tsouli had been creating a website called YOUBOMBIT.

At his trial at Woolwich crown court a jury heard how the Met trawled through a “hugely gigantic'' amount of material — computers, CDs and memory sticks — to bring Tsouli and two other men to justice.

Detectives found literature urging Muslims to take up the fight against other religions. It was the first time anyone in Britain had been prosecuted for inciting terrorist murder purely based on the internet, the court heard.

The way in which Younes Tsouli became a terrorist is interesting too. He wasn't starving, cold, or lack for money and educational opportunities. Nor did he experience any oppression or violence in Iraq. What radicalized him was what he saw on the Internet.

Tsouli arrived in London in 2001 with his father, a Moroccan diplomat. He studied IT at a college in central London and was quickly radicalised by images of the war in Iraq posted on the internet. By 2003 he had already begun posting his own material including a manual on computer hacking and a year later had moved on to publishing extremist images and al Qaeda propaganda on the web.

Tsouli was undone, ironically, by his own online fame. "In 2005, Tsouli became administrator for the web forum al-Ansat, used by 4,500 extremists to communicate with each other, sharing such practical information as how to make explosives and how to get to Iraq to become a suicide bomber. But the enterprise had become so huge, it began to attract the attention of cyber-trackers who monitor the internet for extremists, leading to Tsouli's arrest."

If Fyodor Dostoevsky were alive today he might very well write a novel from the viewpoint of Tsouli. One can almost imagine him rising to ask a fictional judge, 'where did the crime start? This murderer was recruited by other murderers over the Internet and went on to recruit still more assassins the same way. He was a link in a chain that stretches far back and goes forward until it is out of sight. You call him a virtual murderer and it's true. He deserves jail, but there's something else ...'

When the real Fyodor Dostoevsky described Ivan Karamazov's frustration with the insubstantiality of the Devil in the Brother's Karamazov he might have been talking about the virtual Jihad. Ivan denies that evil ideas matter, that they have a life of their own, but realizes to his dismay that he's talking to the Devil.

"Never for one minute have I taken you for reality," Ivan cried with a sort of fury. "You are a lie, you are my illness, you are a phantom. It’s only that I don’t know how to destroy you and I see I must suffer for a time. You are my hallucination. You are the incarnation of myself, but only of one side of me... of my thoughts and feelings, but only the nastiest and stupidest of them."

We disbelieve in phantoms at our peril. They can take shape, as they did above Manhattan on a bright autumn day oh so long ago and come down for blood. We can jail Younes Tsouli easily enough but to fight the lie, the illness, the phantom, the hallucination, we must must unleash spirits of our own. Ivan's problem was that he couldn't believe in the Devil and consequently kept talking to him.

Do you believe in the Devil? Let's just say Younes Tsouli believed in the Internet Jihad.

39 Comments:

Blogger Doug said...

Liberal Devils
(ot but just too good to miss)
Misstep in a Liberal Minefield

Hillary Clinton's campaign has had serial misadventures in the racial minefield of liberalism's own making.
Its clumsy competition in the sensitivity sweepstakes makes it seem like a quaint anachronism.
It reeks of the synthetic racial and other sensitivity-mongering of the last third of the previous century.
Temperate Americans are surely thinking:
Get.
Over.
It.

georgewill@washpost.com

1/17/2008 04:39:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

The Elephant Bar beat these guys to it, but this added great stuff like:
The Times Vet Fragging

But the bizarre emphasis of the New York Times upon veteran violence without the provision of context can be understood by remembering that Arthur “Pinch” Sulzberger Jr., publisher of the Times, once said during the Vietnam War that if a North Vietnamese soldier ran into an American soldier, he’d rather see the American soldier shot .
He may yet achieve his goal — only using the pen instead of the sword.
(All the News that's Fit to Print…
…for the whole world to read.)

1/17/2008 04:59:00 AM  
Blogger PeterBoston said...

Is there something about Islam that automatically generates psychopathic outliers or are we looking at the standard 20% nutjob phenomenon?

1/17/2008 05:30:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

I liked this:
whiskey_199 said...
They hate us because their polygamy (which leaves most men sex-less losers substituting homosexual acts for heterosexual ones) makes their society violent and unstable and only an external enemy will suffice to keep a minimum social peace.

The problem with Egypt is that is has provided both the intellectual guidance (Qutb, Hassan al-Bana, the evil Dr. Zawahari) as well as the foot soldiers in great numbers for Jihad.
@
The Riddle of the Sands

...and he left out Atta!
(who could have become a Burma Shave Icon were he not Muslim)
---
"Fly fresh,
shaved to the flesh."

1/17/2008 06:01:00 AM  
Blogger Storm-Rider said...

Let's say that 20% of Muslims are trapped in the toxicity of religious/political/military jihad ideology. What of the other 80%? The same thing happened to those 20% who were true believers in the national socialism of Nazi Germany, and the 80% who were dragged along. Aren't the 80% usually irrelevant?

1/17/2008 07:36:00 AM  
Blogger Fred said...

"Is there something about Islam that automatically generates psychopathic outliers or are we looking at the standard 20% nutjob phenomenon?"

When Muhammad left Mecca for Medina he had, according to analysis of the sources of the history of the Prophet, not more than ten followers, after years of announcing himself as the definitive prophet of al illah.

Upon settling in Medina, he changed tactics. He decided to raid the caravans, killing the men, enslaving the women and children, and robbing the loot of those caravans and dividing up the spoils. It was at this decisive point in the history of Islam's development when his movement attracted many more adherents. Essentially, this appealed to the criminal elements in Medina. And Muhammad was able to utter that al illah had divinely sanctioned this activity.

Now, what could be better than having a deity tell you that it's expected and virtuous to engage in murder, theft, rape, and plunder?

The "outliers" attracted to Islam are the moral and intellectual reprobates.

There is a bit of a discussion over at Robert Spencer's JihadWatch.org site about Younes Tsouli in yesterday's blog. Check it out.

http://jihadwatch.org/

1/17/2008 07:44:00 AM  
Blogger PeterBoston said...

I'm going to answer my own question and go with the thesis that Islam automatically generates psychopathic outliers.

This is my theory. Islam is a supremacist ideology in which the group is "better" than any other group that is not Muslim. Individuals pledge their allegiance to the group, look to the group for directions on every aspect of life, and no individualism is allowed.

This group supremacism encourages individual behavior which promotes the group or defends the group from criticism because the individual is nothing without the group. Achmed, who is uneducated and lives in poverty, can feel good about himself, not because of anything he is likely to do, but because Islam (the group) challenges the more powerful others as an apparent equal.

Achmed's self-worth is entirely dependent on the group successfully maintaining its illusion of supremacy. Achmed sees the group as greater than himself and is therefore willing to act as an outlier and place himself at risk if he thinks it will benefit the group. Muhammad understood this and pronounced that Paradise was gained only by dying in battle for the group.

1/17/2008 08:45:00 AM  
Blogger Shropshirelad said...

Excellent post, Wretchard.

I don't think that the West disbelieves in the Devil, necessarily. It's just that much of the West is so vain, solipsistic, and self-absorbed it thinks it has a monopoly on Evil.

I guess it is just anonther unfortunate intellectual legacy of Age of Empire: the inability of the Western mind to cope with the fact that the Devil, if He is anything, is a clearly democrat.

1/17/2008 09:14:00 AM  
Blogger 1389 said...

O/T, but important:

Webcast interviews with British blogger Lionheart today and tomorrow

1/17/2008 09:22:00 AM  
Blogger NahnCee said...

I always wonder about the parental units in these cases, too. Mohammad Atta's daddy swore up one side and down the other that his boy was innocent, as do all the Saudi parents of Gitmo prisoners.

This guy was the son of a diplomat from Algeria. Are diplomats from Algeria just as benighted and backwards as the Algerian "youth" in France busy committing arson every night?

Are the parental units embarrassed at what they've spawned? Are they *still* in England, with dear old daddy being diplomatic all over the place? So we're told that Doofus Son became radicalized in 2001. Something else happened in 2001 that may have drawn his attention to jihadist websites -- I wonder what kind of conversation he might have picked up over the breakfast table from his parents about that little incident.

The parents of the Columbine killers were held partially responsible for what Harris and Klebold did. Why shouldn't we equally hold feet to the fire of the parents of this idjut?

1/17/2008 10:03:00 AM  
Blogger Fred said...

NahnCee,

Small correction. Younes Tsouli and his family are from Morocco.

I see that our Islamic pest, MAS, has not picked up this discussion on his trolling software yet. Good riddance.

peterboston is on to something. However, a study of the behavior and career of Muhammad reveals that he was a narcissistic, killer sociopath who probably was an epileptic. Not only did his movement draw in murderers, rapists, and thieves, but it also reinforced this behavior and, within his ideology, the groupthink did produce "outlier" behavior.

The scary thing is that this ideology, down through fourteen hundred centuries of jihad conquest, also drew in collaborators from the targeted societies. That is still a very troublesome phenomenon. In fact, were it not for these witting and unwitting collaborators I think it is Islam rather than us who would be on the ropes right now. I'm sure we can recover from our stupor, but it is going to take some nasty roundhouses to the head before most people wake up.

1/17/2008 11:33:00 AM  
Blogger NahnCee said...

Fred, mea culpa. I thought when I typed that, that I should stop and doublecheck. They're side-by-side, though, so I'm gonna claim six of one/half a dozen of the other, same difference. And then prepare myself for an outraged Algerian Moroccan who'll tell me all about the gazillion small details that make them different -- like everyone knows that Moroccan camels are *much* more beautiful than mere Algerian ones are.

Re: MAS,I've noticed before that trolls will parachute into a site, yank the thread over to whatever issue they want to discuss and then hunker down in that one site only. It's as if in maintaining an attack against all comers in one place (especially if they're consistently wrong about everything) takes up every single IQ point that they possess. So that they couldn't possibly go elsewhere and spread their creed around like a bee flitting from blossom to blossom to blossom.

Let us hope that is the case with MAS, since he really doesn't have anything to bring to the party, except uninspired name-calling.

1/17/2008 12:36:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

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1/17/2008 01:18:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Banning Benedict
- Hewitt
Dennis Prager alerted me to this story this morning in the WSJ.com (subscription required):

American universities aren't the only places where politically incorrect speakers are silenced nowadays. This week in Rome, of all places, Pope Benedict XVI found himself censored by scholars, of all people, at one of Europe's most prestigious universities.

On Tuesday the pontiff canceled a speech scheduled for today at Sapienza University of Rome in the wake of a threat by students and 67 faculty members to disrupt his appearance. The scholars argued that it was inappropriate for a religious figure to speak at their university.

One of Benedict's favorite themes is that European civilization derives from the rapprochement between Greek philosophy and religious belief, between Athens and Jerusalem. In the speech he wasn't allowed to give, the pope planned to talk about the role of popes and universities.

This is nuts. The West is threatened by jihadists intent on sending civilization back more than a thousand years, and academics in Rome are gagging one of the West's most skilled and respected defenders.

1/17/2008 01:21:00 PM  
Blogger Zenster said...

Fred: I see that our Islamic pest, MAS, has not picked up this discussion on his trolling software yet. Good riddance.

Hokay, Fred. So, beneath your armor plate of erudition you too were fed up with that git as well? I found your restraint to be, at times, almost superhuman.

Nahncee: Let us hope that is the case with MAS, since he really doesn't have anything to bring to the party, except uninspired name-calling.

Noticed that too didya, gal? The weasle got pretty pathetic towards the end there. I mean, how many times must one instruct some obnoxious twit that his cause is not being served by antagonizing everyone in sight?

I can only hope that I'm not the only one who refuses to take his website seriously. After all, if he was truly intent on recruiting genuine support, he'd have a heckuva lot more patience with a crowd that would like nothing more than a ban on shari'a law. Go figure.

1/17/2008 02:58:00 PM  
Blogger NahnCee said...

...he'd have a heckuva lot more patience with a crowd that would like nothing more than a ban on shari'a law.

I was trying (a little bit) to wrap my mind around where he was coming from. I think he does want to ban Shariah law, but he still wants the right to call the rest of us degenerates, and to assert that he's superior by claim of his religion.

In other words, he wants the sex, drugs and rock'n'roll, but if we do it, too (or enable him to partake thereof), then we are the degenerates.

Anyone else notice that he's apparently married to a moonbat? Those converging confluences between Islam and the progressive liberal west ...

1/17/2008 03:14:00 PM  
Blogger Zenster said...

Nahncee: I think he does want to ban Shariah law, but he still wants the right to call the rest of us degenerates, and to assert that he's superior by claim of his religion.

Picked right up on that unmistakable towering Muslim arrogance, did you? Like a trout in the milk pail, it was pretty difficult to ignore.

1/17/2008 03:52:00 PM  
Blogger Marzouq the Redneck Muslim said...

Who is MAS? Never noticed a MAS on this site.

Salaam Y'all!

1/17/2008 04:17:00 PM  
Blogger Fred said...

Young Younes apparently is going to have to get used to watching his back in the prison showers now. That hyper vigilance will be necessary, since in Islam the male who is the recipient of that overture is the one considered filthy. Will kind of put a dent in his hopes of becoming one of the 70,000 souls who will be saved and get to Islamic heaven.

What that young man was enabling was a process by which angry Muslim males could desensitize themselves even more to the violence they hope they will be able to visit upon us kafirs. It makes him part of the culture of murder which is Islam.

The U.K., along with the rest of Europe, has some heavy hitters in its midst. And I don't know if they are not already at the tipping point from manageability to unmanageability.

1/17/2008 04:31:00 PM  
Blogger Marzouq the Redneck Muslim said...

The parents of the Columbine killers were held partially responsible for what Harris and Klebold did. Why shouldn't we equally hold feet to the fire of the parents of this idjut?
- Nahncee

In Heinlein's book Starship Troopers there is a passage about juvenile delinquency. The Colonel's proposed solution was to hold the delinquent's parents responsible. The authorites whooped his parents' asses along with the delinquent perp's! I thought is was a great passage!




Upon settling in Medina, he changed tactics. He decided to raid the caravans, killing the men, enslaving the women and children, and robbing the loot of those caravans and dividing up the spoils. It was at this decisive point in the history of Islam's development when his movement attracted many more adherents.
-Fred

Yeah, kinda like a street gang. MS-13, Bloods, Crips anyone?

Folks, I hope you are not referring to me when you write of MAS. It would pain me so. I would also be dissapointed in your ability to read between my lines.

I come here to learn and learn much. I just can't help being the class clown.

Salaam eleikum Y'all!

1/17/2008 04:32:00 PM  
Blogger Fred said...

marzouq, we are not referring to you. It's someone else. So, you can ease your mind on that one. MAS ("muslims against sharia")is another contributor who, on another thread, was behaving like the proverbial ape in the zoo flinging feces at the humans outside the cage.

1/17/2008 04:54:00 PM  
Blogger Mike H. said...

NahnCee,
"Are the parental units embarrassed at what they've spawned?"

The parental units are only embarrassed at the fact that junior got caught. As far as they're concerned he's fighting the good fight. That way they don't have to do the fighting.

1/17/2008 08:09:00 PM  
Blogger Fred said...

I tend to think his parents are most likely proud of their son doing his part to fight in the way of Allah. They would be even more proud if he had died killing infidels, even if they probably don't need a cut of the zakat for life insurance.

1/17/2008 08:37:00 PM  
Blogger Zenster said...

Fred: Will kind of put a dent in his hopes of becoming one of the 70,000 souls who will be saved and get to Islamic heaven.

Fred, I want to thank you very much for elucidating on this particular point. Currently, I am trying to wade through the Koran but its constant bigotry and exhortations to violence are repulsive in the extreme.

As with most fundamentalist interpretations of any doctrine, the notion that only 70,000 will be chosen from among BILLIONS of Allah's most faithful carries with it some extremely disturbing ramifications.

Keeping in mind that Allah rewards best those who slay the most Infidels, it only stands to reason that in order to make the final cut, individual Muslims must slay untold thousands—if not countless MILLIONS—to outstrip the barbaric achievements of their predecessors. This is no laughing matter as it is fundamentalist radicals who interpret the Koran most literally.

Implicit in that 70,000 number of those who eventually shall be privileged to enter paradise is the hidden fact that a nuclear terrorist attack will obtain the most lavish possible rewards. By all lights, these psychotic, genocidal murderers must regard atomic weapons as the ultimate backstage pass that will get them—before all other contenders—past the hereafter’s velvet rope. Our own rational minds quail at considering the foregoing to be anything even remotely sane even as our worst enemies chortle in glee at the very thought of it.

The foregoing certainly explains why Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini would say the following:

We do not worship Iran, we worship Allah. For patriotism is another name for paganism. I say let this land [Iran] burn. I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam emerges triumphant in the rest of the world.

This late Iranian madman—Ahmadinejad’s spiritual progenitor—must certainly have reveled in the notion that masterminding a nuclear attack upon Israel would most certainly assure his entrance into paradise. It can only be assumed that Iran’s current president subscribes to this same abstruse logic in his desire to “wipe Israel off of the map”. All of this only serves to reinforce just how incredibly dangerous Islam continues to be.

Fred: What that young man was enabling was a process by which angry Muslim males could desensitize themselves even more to the violence they hope they will be able to visit upon us kafirs. It makes him part of the culture of murder which is Islam.

I’m glad to see how others than myself also carried away this impression. MAS’s confident predictions of huge casualties following terrorist attacks upon America seemed to place him more in the radicals’ camp than one of reformation. Good riddance of bad rubbish.

1/17/2008 10:26:00 PM  
Blogger BrianFH said...

Islam's time in the spotlight is not doing it any favours. Many of us are concluding that if you wanted to make a religion out of the most repulsive and vicious attitudes towards non-members possible, you could hardly do better than Islam.

I am also coming to the conclusion that, despite (limited) assertions to the contrary, women are NOT considered actual functional Muslims, but a kind of adjunct or extension for the Men of The House. Or, to be blunt, booty.

1/18/2008 02:40:00 AM  
Blogger Salt Lick said...

We disbelieve in phantoms at our peril. They can take shape, as they did above Manhattan...Do you believe in the Devil?

I believe in the Devil, or an evil force, and the importance of labeling your enemies as evil to sustain your strength. Nevertheless, I also believe forming your tactics (if that's what Wretchard means by "unleashing spirits of our own") on that basis is fraught with dangers, because people do "come back" from the Devil or evil's thrall.

Without going into a lot of detail, let me say I know this from experience, and the moniker "redneck muslim" brings this to mind. I grew up a Southerner in the 60's. There are many similarities between the South of that time and Islam today -- fundamentalist religion wrapped in a culture with a warrior's heritage warped by a sense of shame at losing a war and becoming an occupied land -- certain patriarcial attitude toward women -- racial discrimination -- and a climate hot as hell.

I grew up. I went to college. I joined the Peace Corps. I traveled the world. I still love my roots and my "people," but I have gained a perspective very different from the one I grew up with.

Exorcising "devils" is a complex and inexact science, especially when you are considering young, impressionable minds. I believe that if they’d grown up in the “wrong” household, some of the passionate commenters on this list would be cheering on jihad.

Humans do shake off certain "devilish" attitudes. In the context of the current war against Islamofascism, I think it would be a mistake to give up on that idea. Changing hearts will be a multigenerational task -- I still get misty eyed when I think of those Southern boys stacking arms at Appomatox.

1/18/2008 04:24:00 AM  
Blogger Marzouq the Redneck Muslim said...

Fred,

Thanks. I am proud to be a denizen of this community and an admirer of Wretch the cat.

May the good Muslims defeat the criminals who call themselves Muslims.

May hate and fear not cloud the minds of those with potential to win against evil.

Salaam eleikum Y'all!

1/18/2008 04:48:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

We be Evil!
---
Bobby Fischer

Former Russian chess champion Garry Kasparov said Fischer's ascent of the chess world in the 1960s was "a revolutionary breakthrough" for the game.

"The tragedy is that he left this world too early, and his extravagant life and scandalous statements did not contribute to the popularity of chess," Kasparov told The Associated Press.

Over the years, Fischer gave occasional interviews with a radio station in the Philippines, often digressing into anti-Semitic rants and accusing American officials of hounding him.

He praised the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, saying America should be "wiped out," and described Jews as "thieving, lying bastards." His mother was Jewish.

"The United States is evil. There's this axis of evil. What about the allies of evil - the United States, England, Japan, Australia? These are the evildoers," Fischer said.

1/18/2008 05:03:00 AM  
Blogger PeterBoston said...

I still get misty eyed when I think of those Southern boys stacking arms at Appomatox.

I'm Boston born and bred and I do too. The tragedy is that they fought to defend an aristocracy whose time, and justification for existence, had passed. Even today I think that the South is the spiritual and muscular core of America. When the day comes that evil is on our doorstep it will be Southern boys who leave their homes to repel it.

1/18/2008 05:47:00 AM  
Blogger NahnCee said...

May the good Muslims defeat the criminals who call themselves Muslims.


Marzouq, I don't know how long you've been in the United States - or if, indeed, you *are* posting from within America - but you need to know that to any red-blooded American born and raised on a diet of John Wayne movies featuring cowboys and Indians, when you use the words "good Muslim" it IMMEDIATELY invokes a well-known saying from those movies that "the only good Indian is a dead Indian".

That, of course, is not PC to say any more but trust me when I tell you that it will flit through most American's minds when you talk about "good Muslims". Perhaps that's why the preferred usage is "moderate Muslim".

Too bad there are so many whacko Muslims that we feel constrained to differentiate and add language that makes it clear that we're talking about "normal human beings who happen to be Muslims but who aren't trying to kill anyone or to blow anything up."

1/18/2008 06:20:00 AM  
Blogger Fred said...

"Exorcising "devils" is a complex and inexact science, especially when you are considering young, impressionable minds. I believe that if they’d grown up in the “wrong” household, some of the passionate commenters on this list would be cheering on jihad."

I rather suspect that most human beings, socialized and brainwashed into an ideology like Islam, would be as you say in that comment. Look at the citizens of the Japanese Islands in WWII. Pure fanaticism. Ditto for the people of Germany. And on, and on.

On the other hand, within our cultural/political orbit it is possible to develop, under optimal family and educational circumstances, a highly refined moral compass that goes beyond a mere robotic, rigid adherence to ethical standards. Our civilization was capable of producing signed accords called the Geneva Conventions, which the signatories mutually pledged their good faith towards. Such an achievement would be unthinkable within dar al Islam. In fact, it would be considered completely against their religious code.

1/18/2008 07:27:00 AM  
Blogger Zenster said...

Fred: Our civilization was capable of producing signed accords called the Geneva Conventions, which the signatories mutually pledged their good faith towards. Such an achievement would be unthinkable within dar al Islam. In fact, it would be considered completely against their religious code.

Agreed. Now, what does that tell us about the measures required to defeat Islam? This is a deathly serious question. Point in case is how Muslims absolutely refuse to follow the Geneva Conventions yet, when captured, demand to be treated according to them.

1/18/2008 11:02:00 AM  
Blogger Fred said...

zenster,

It really distresses me that the majority of our peoples still do not grasp the utter ruthlessness of this ideology spawned by Muhammad, which sacralizes everything which our religious traditions deem to be sin. How can we defend ourselves adequately when so many know so little about the richness of our civilization and the enormous efforts and accomplishments that it took to set it on its way?

1/18/2008 12:55:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Like Feminists standing up for Abuser Bill, (and reaping the profits of his largesse w/our money) now excoriating loser Matthews for "incorrect" words.

32 geriatric "Feminists" show up (almost all of them that is) and create a firestorm at MSNBC.

The Victimology, ACLU Legal, MSM, Virtual Reality Complex at work.
Played like a Violin by 9th Century Barbarians.
---
The Amazons and Barbarians, Front and Center!
---
Chris Matthews Backs Off 'Nasty' Remark on Clinton

"Under pressure from feminist groups and his own bosses at MSNBC, Chris Matthews apologized yesterday for remarks about Hillary Clinton that he now admits sounded "nasty."

For 10 days, the "Hardball" host had doggedly insisted he was just reciting a bit of history when he said on the air that "the reason she's a U.S. senator, the reason she's a candidate for president, the reason she may be a front-runner is her husband messed around.
"

1/18/2008 01:05:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

(replying to zenster)

1/18/2008 01:06:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Victory could be obtaining by overcoming the "educational" system, the left, and the MSM, which isn't happening in our lifetimes, so as Fred has already said, additional grief on a large scale will have to be endured.

1/18/2008 01:11:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

...as of today, Chris Matthews is a greater threat to Womanhood (a Hillary Presidency) than Islam.

1/18/2008 01:12:00 PM  
Blogger Zenster said...

Fred: It really distresses me that the majority of our peoples still do not grasp the utter ruthlessness of this ideology spawned by Muhammad, which sacralizes everything which our religious traditions deem to be sin.

Perhaps even more distressing is how Islam also weaponizes every fine and decent thing that the West holds dear. At every opportunity our Islamic foes turn against us such vital traits as humanity, decency and liberty. I can only imagine how in the midst our own moral inversion—idolizing unearned wealth and unmerited fame—that we are blinded to Islam's total contravention of every honorable tradition created by the family of mankind.

All of this is complicated by living in the Bizarro world of Politically Correct "reality". It is impossible to think our way out of this vicious snare while immersed in the perceptual miasma of Newspeak. None of this bodes well for the West regaining some much-needed moral clarity anytime soon.

1/19/2008 05:12:00 PM  
Blogger Marzouq the Redneck Muslim said...

Nahncee,

Peter Boston helps me give a clue. I too get misty eyed thinking about those southern boys stacking arms at Appomattox. I consider Lee as great as Washington.

I love Dixie, lived here ever since I came to USA. I was naturalized in Dixie as soon as I was old enough. Can't give too many clues. I have been here long enough to love the stars and bars as much as the stars and stripes.

Just came from a site where a major p'ssin contest was going on between MAS and the host. Must say, the host aint skeered to be feisty! DAAAAANNNNNGGG!

As far as John Wayne and dead Muslims, I believe reformed is the way to go, just like Christianity reformed, if that is possible. I think it can be in this country. Hate brought on by fear can be detrimental to a cause. It can cloud thinking and cause defeat in 4GW/5GW.

Consider Wretchard's earlier post about Hitler's Last Secret. Islam can be reformed but only from within.

My sect, Redneck Islam, is a lot more fun than wahabism or khomeinism. I can tell you that!

On that note, I shall continue with my "jihad".

Salaam eleikum and YEEEEEHAH!

1/20/2008 05:14:00 PM  

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