Tuesday, July 03, 2007

Gaza Again

Follow Charles Levinson's account of the efforts by Hamas to bring the "Army of Islam", a group headed by the Dagmush clan in Gaza and reported captors of BBC journalist Alan Johnston by starting at this post and work your way up.

Tensions between Hamas and Alan Johnston’s captors seem to be coming to a head. Early Monday morning Hamas nabbed Army of Islam spokesman Khattab al-Maqdissi. Hamas said they grabbed him after he opened fire on members of the Executive Force. The Army of Islam said he was leaving dawn prayers. A few hours later the Dagmush-controlled Army of Islam shot back, reportedly kidnapping 10 Hamas members, all students at the Islamic University in Gaza City. They warned they had damning video tapes that would bring shame to certain Hamas members. Hamas then announced it had begun arresting people responsible for kidnapping Johnston ....

[Hamas] is being made to look like chumps by the Dagmush clan, which is undermining Hamas’ attempts to restore order in Gaza. If the Dagmush clan and the Army of Islam can stand up to Hamas with impunity, Hamas may start to look like something of a paper tiger to other Gaza clans, the last thing Hamas wants.

Nothing follows.

19 Comments:

Blogger What is "Occupation" said...

hamas "won" the battle of gaza with less than 100 kia...

hardly a battle...

but hamas (and hezbollah) in their own mind now see themselves as a war hardened, army of god whose power has been appointed by allah and that they are on a divine mission.

Sadly for them (or maybe not) the reality is not quite the rosy picture they paint themselves.

Others in gaza, who have had loyalty to clans long before hamas was invented will not give up blood/family and historic profits to the new gang in charge. 1st it was the tunsian bunch, now it's the persian funded (and wahabbists too!) gang...

I predict the following...

death, rape, murder, destruction, no nobel prizes, no peace loving inventions, high sales of black and or green cloth, poverty all reaching higher levels in gaza...

I see the eu-retards and the UN-retards complaining of the crisis and seeking to blame the jews....

the good news?

blowback...

from jordan, egypt, lebanon, gaza, iraq islamic nut jobs called everything from moslem brotherhood to fatah el islam are spreading!

look to MORE events featuring palestinians, saudis, yemenites, pakis, egyptians all growing more insane by the day.. look for events in europe, africa, asia and the arab world of self destruction...

it's going to be a fun summer...

I will be cooling down the beer, and buying pork rinds for all my gentile friends....

7/03/2007 05:55:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

OT:
Algore as Reagan:Moving Beyond Kyoto

Al Gore, vice president from 1993 to 2001, is the chairman of the Alliance for Climate Protection. He is the author, most recently, of “The Assault on Reason.”

Embrace a genuine moral and spiritual challenge!

But there’s something even more precious to be gained if we do the right thing. The climate crisis offers us the chance to experience what few generations in history have had the privilege of experiencing:
a generational mission;
a compelling moral purpose;
a shared cause;
and the thrill of being forced by circumstances to put aside the pettiness and conflict of politics and to embrace a genuine moral and spiritual challenge.


This is not a political issue. This is a moral issue, one that affects the survival of human civilization. It is not a question of left versus right; it is a question of right versus wrong. Put simply, it is wrong to destroy the habitability of our planet and ruin the prospects of every generation that follows ours.

On Sept. 21, 1987, President Ronald Reagan said, “In our obsession with antagonisms of the moment, we often forget how much unites all the members of humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to recognize this common bond. I occasionally think how quickly our differences would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world.”

We — all of us — now face a universal threat. Though it is not from outside this world, it is nevertheless cosmic in scale.

7/03/2007 06:12:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

"experience what few generations in history have had the privilege of experiencing:
a generational mission
"
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Following our Messiah,
ALGORE!
Alah Akbar, Alah, ALGORE!

7/03/2007 06:21:00 AM  
Blogger wretchard said...

Kinda interesting developments in Pakistan, where Islamic students seeking to establish a Taliban regime are battling paramilitary cops in the Pakistani capital. Eight dead so far, one of them a cop. The preacher at the Red mosque is calling for suicide attacks, presumably on government forces, whatever that term means in Pakistan.

It will be interesting to see whether this fighting spreads. One day historians, if there are any left, are going to try and piece together the story of just when the combustion that seems to be convulsing the Islamic world began. I guess the Islamists see these troubles as presaging the emergence of a new Caliphate. The Western Liberals, on the other hand, see nothing at all. Their view is entirely blocked by Global Warming and evil Scooter Libby. But maybe the troubles in Pakistan are just that. Troubles. That type of phenomenon has a way of spreading, and spreading and spreading.

7/03/2007 06:29:00 AM  
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7/03/2007 06:36:00 AM  
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7/03/2007 06:36:00 AM  
Blogger PhilippinesPhil said...

Am I wrong to feel so much satisfaction while watching this Muslim on Muslim destruction? I think I must be because if I was in charge I'd be arming BOTH factions. Then I'd sit back and watch the games begin. Go Hamas! Go Fatah! Who's ahead, okay, I'm for the other guys UNTIL they get ahead, etc. Yup, I MUST be sick. That's just WRONG!

7/03/2007 07:06:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

Sex Slaves, Drug Trade and Rock n' Roll

Aaron Cohen thought he’d seen it all. Then he went to Myanmar.

Eerily, the Pakistan-Myanmar link is backed up by a 2002 Wall Street Journal article detailing Myanmar’s nuclear ambitions: “The program drew scrutiny recently after two Pakistani nuclear scientists, with long experience at two of their country’s most secret nuclear installations, showed up in Myanmar after the 9/11 terrorist attacks in the U.S. Asian and European intelligence officials say Suleiman Asad and Muhammed Ali Mukhtar left Pakistan for Myanmar when the U.S grew interested in interrogating them about their alleged links to suspected terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden, who Washington believes wants to develop a nuclear weapon.”

Burmese exile magazines, blogs and Web sites are rife with alleged wicked SPDC plots. But one question pops up over and over: Is there a link between Myanmar, which mines and refines uranium ore, and Iran, which requires uranium for its own nuclear projects? And, specifically, is Burmese yellowcake finding its way to uranium centrifuges in Natanz, Iran?

Cohen’s testimony suggests that the answer may be yes...

7/03/2007 07:57:00 AM  
Blogger Mətušélaḥ said...

Porky,

I wouldn't get too high on them Lebanese mind altering drugs. They can and will interfere in discerning a Paliwood media production from reality. :)

FATAH-HAMAS WAR FRAUD <=

7/03/2007 08:57:00 AM  
Blogger Insufficiently Sensitive said...

Hamas's press release is so slick it's not unlikely that they've got an Ivy-league professor on staff to write stuff for the NYT to quote. The style is perfect:

"1. These arrests came after the failure of three months of peaceful negotiating attempts to release the abducted journalist."

What better combination than their double-breasted operation of murderous guerillas and limousine liberals could cause such swooning among the Western anointed?

7/03/2007 09:26:00 AM  
Blogger NahnCee said...

Coupla of the Brit bomber doctors have Palestinian backgrounds. Confirming my stereotype that that group of Arabs have been so successful at poisoning their gene pool and their society that NOTHING can make them human and salvage-able.

7/03/2007 09:31:00 AM  
Blogger whiskey_199 said...

Nahncee --

It is reported that Pakistani Muslims in Britain's Yorkshire region make up 11% of the population (astounding and troubling) yet account for 70% of birth defects (due to inbreeding-cousin marriage).

It might well be, that centuries of inbreeding due to Cousin Marriage have left Muslims simply on average incapable of operating in the modern world due to inbreeding. The implication then is that they must either be contained in some sort of savagery-laden quarantine or ruled by colonial powers for generations, neither of which is very appealing.

I take no joy whatsoever in this latest round of fighting in Gaza because I see the implication: an endless tribal struggle for dominance by tribe/leaders/clans that will never end until the people are ended one way or another.

The Roman method was to simply kill everyone. Caesar's legions killed, with Roman short swords and spears, about a million Gauls. Great numbers of Britons were also slaughtered, and so too Jews. Only the Germans in their forest were able to revolt successfully, and then only because Augustine was old and tired. A younger Emperor would have raised more legions, chopped the forest down, and slaughtered the lot of them.

The other way was the dream of Kipling and such, the "white man's burden" of transmitting social and civilizational models to peoples to bring them up to European standards of social organization (i.e. middle-class nuclear families) and values.

We've tried the Kipling (or "neo-con") way and it's not worked (or not fast enough for us). So, logically the next step is the Roman way. Cringing appeasement by Gordon Brown (no using "Muslim" or "Islamic" or "terrorist") to describe what it is going on will only encourage more attacks (because it is predictably craven weakness) and provoke the rise of a new Caesar / Cromwell.

7/03/2007 02:24:00 PM  
Blogger Crazy Marzouq Redneck Muslim said...

Oh damn, whiskey. That just freaks me right out! When I converted, I never thought of that "cousin marriage" issue!

Now I am shocked, shocked that I named my blog host name Crazy Marzouq the Redneck Muslim!

Can you see the connotation? I swear, that was never my intention. Y'all must be laughing your butts off!

I do see your point and at may much more cogent than most people realize.

It sure seems insanity is a curse on the Muslim World, the Ummah in the Middle East.

A thought crossed my mind today that may be of interest to the regular commenters on Wretchard's blog. If events in the United States happen with similar frequency as in Europe, I believe my coreligionists and I shall be rounded up and interned similar as the Japanese in WWII. 60 years later there will be an apology of course, but damn, I'll be dead by then!

Salaam eleikum and Happy 4th of July!

7/03/2007 03:22:00 PM  
Blogger wretchard said...

I'm not sure we want to return to the Roman days. A few sharp raps directed at the guilty would have been enough if it weren't portrayed as an illegal, oppressive and bully act by a lot of media outlets. We have become like those parodies of the Japanese on World War 2 Warner Brothers cartoons. Manhattan gets hit, we strike back and say, "So sorry." Bow, bow. We sure know how not to send a message. And in the end this talent for conveying a misunderstanding will undo the world.

7/03/2007 03:25:00 PM  
Blogger NahnCee said...

If events in the United States happen with similar frequency as in Europe, I believe my coreligionists and I shall be rounded up and interned similar as the Japanese in WWII.

I do believe you just might be right. An alternative, of course, would be to offer you and your co-religionists instant transportation BACK to the failed state of your choice ... provided anyone would take you. At which point you might just be pushed out of the airplane over an uninhabited area with a parachute on your back and a gallon of water in your hand.

Another alternatative would be the Muslim equivalent of a rattlesnake hunt. Like the joke says, "We ain't played cowboys and muslims yet."

Doesn't it make more sense to start denouncing these nutcakes *and* turning them in when you know about them (including your father, your brother, your uncle, your sister, and anyone else who's been holed up in the bathroom creating weird potions and elixirs).

7/03/2007 03:34:00 PM  
Blogger What is "Occupation" said...

We don't have to be the romans

we have to be the islamic world's worst fear..

we divide and allow them to kill each other...

think of it...

1st: 3rd world brain drain applied to all islamic and arab countries...

2nd: insert large sums of weapons

3rd: stand back and encourage inter tribal warfare

build walls..

7/03/2007 03:39:00 PM  
Blogger Sparks fly said...

Did you get that? The "Dagmush" clan. What a name! Hollywood could use a name like that. How evocative, how romantic!

A lot of this stuff appears to be stage-managed for our benefit as other posters have often mentioned. They are targeting to a media drenched audience and they are pretty skillful at it. They've got the range and now they are firing for effect. Any minor terrorist act is magnified all out of proportion to its physical dimensions.

They are practiced in lieing two or three levels more sophisticated than our politicians. Brown comes off looking like an idiot trying to be a nice guy.

They are better at it than the Russians who attempt to make lieing a science when it actually lends itself more to a form of art.

Not just Hamas but the entire Islamic world is beginning to look like a paper tiger. If some technical move seperated them from their oil money even for a little while the entire complexion of events in the middle east might take on a much more reasonable perspective.

7/03/2007 03:56:00 PM  
Blogger Mətušélaḥ said...

Crazy Majnun,

The issue with the Jihadis is Islam itself. When Muslims open up new theological territory, and rewrite the rules of interaction between Dar ul-Kufr or Dar ul-Harb and Dar ul-Islam, then perhaps they will be spared as a community. As it is, Crazy Majnun, I'm afraid it's either a ten number tattoo, or the a very hot oven, or both.

7/03/2007 04:32:00 PM  
Blogger whiskey_199 said...

Crazy --

Cousin Marriage seems to be both the glue, culturally speaking, of Afghan-Pakistan, and also much of the Arab world, and it's weakness. What stands out is how little cultural change has taken place in Arab and Pakistani lands. Bernard Lewis points out that the printing press was adopted in the Sultan's lands only in the 1830's and soon smashed up. Not to reappear until the 1880's out of pure desperate military necessity. Pretty much the same story, no innovations, inventions, or anything of real value comes out of Muslim lands.

Of course, if Iranian, Indonesian, and Malaysian Muslims practice cousin marriage widely is something I am not informed on. Nothing useful comes out of those lands either but extractable resources (extracted, btw, by foreigners since the people themselves lack any skills in great numbers). Even Iran's nuclear program depends on imported Chinese and North Korean labor. But perhaps something else there explains the lack of technical creativity. I don't know.

If Cousin-Marriage is at the heart of the cultural conflict between Muslims and non-Muslims, then only a "Roman" solution so radical as to destroy the institution of arranged Cousin Marriage (by killing most of the men say) will fix it.

[As for IQ and birth defects, well sustained inbreeding has measurable and predictable effects. The Hapsburg Emperor Ferdinand was severely retarded and deformed, and bawled at a State Dinner "I am the Emperor and I want noodles!" Given the length of time, around 1500 years or so in Arab lands, that sustained inbreeding has been happening, I would be shocked if the inhabitants weren't bedeviled with the same effects as the Emperor Ferdinand.]

Wretchard -- I sadly think the time for a non-Roman solution is far past. The time for that non-Roman approach would have been shortly after 9/11. To punish/topple the Saudis, Pakistanis, Iranians, along with Saddam. We'd break it, they'd own it, but most people would be still alive. Sherman over say Caesar. Impoverishment over killing.

But that's over. If say Osama and the Taliban succeed in toppling Musharaff and let of a nuke in LA or Chicago or NYC, well yes then naturally Crazy you and all Muslims WILL be interned. Or deported to a country that might turn into a target.

The failure of Muslims to take on Jihadis in the West, their toleration and active aid, their constant parading with signs saying "Islam will DOMINATE" and "Behead Those who Insult Islam" and the constant drip-drip-drip of sudden Jihad in Seattle, LAX, San Francisco, UNC, DC, Utah, Fort Dix, JFK, Miami, Lackawanna, Virginia, and so on only cements this. The average person has seen the failure, the total failure, of Muslims to take on this jihad and stop it and drawn his and her conclusions.

The Nisei got their apology because men went straight from horrible places like Manzanar (I've been there, miserable) to Anzio. Suffering terrible casualties and privations. Since there are more Wiccans than Muslims in the Marine Corps, I doubt seriously Crazy you'd get your apologies forty years later.

It is far, far too late for anything but a Roman solution. Weakness and posturing by a corrupt elite, failure by "moderate Muslims" to do anything at all, and aggressive overreach by Jihadis all over the planet guarantees that.

America certainly will lose a city or two. Very likely three given the absolute paralyzing PC liberal politics and highly feminized weakness paraded as a virtue that the political class embodies. See Glenn Reynold's link here

And then, well the Roman solution.

The worst thing about it, it was oh so avoidable if people had more courage early on.

7/03/2007 08:23:00 PM  

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