Saturday, September 23, 2006

An "Osama is dead" report hits the news

France's Defense Ministry said a secret reports that Osama bin Laden had died could not be confirmed. A French regional newspaper, L'Est Republicain, published a report quoting a French secret service report as saying Saudi Arabia is convinced al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden died of typhoid in Pakistan last month. (Reuters). The Australian, citing its own correspondents reports that US officials cannot confirm reports, leaked from French sources, that Osama bin Laden has died.

Agence France Press adds that "information gathered by the Saudis" indicates that bin Laden "might have succumbed to a very serious case of typhoid fever resulting in partial paralysis of his lower limbs while in Pakistan on August 23, 2006. His geographic isolation provoked by constant fleeing is believed to have made medical assistance impossible (and) on September 4, 2006, the Saudi security services received preliminary information of his death."


Just thought this might be an interesting snippet. Consider the number of times OBL has been reported deceased, it's probably best to see where this one will go. But it's also useful to remember that, as in Zarqawi's case, death comes to everyone.


Blogger By the Nbrs said...

I am skeptical. This could be more taqiyyah, Allah sanctioned disinformation.

Everyone should ask, who would benefit from falsely reporting his death? Pakistan? Iran? Saudi Arabia? Reuters?

The world wonders.

9/23/2006 05:44:00 AM  
Blogger wretchard said...

It's all from one source: the French DGSE. The reports, whether substantively true or not, suggest the Saudis have a man in Bin Laden's camp and the French have a man in the Saudi camp. The supposed date of OBL's death would have been about 3 weeks ago, in a remote border area. Personally, I think it is unlikely because the reverberations of his death within the Jihadi community would have been felt. But then, maybe the surviving leadership is still trying to figure out what to do, if the news is true. Nothing to do but wait for more info.

9/23/2006 05:52:00 AM  
Blogger By the Nbrs said...

I'm sure they have many, many hours of tape in the can already. Dead or alive, we will likely be "hearing" from UBL in propaganda videos for some time to come...

When all of the original tape has been used up, well, there is always syndication...

9/23/2006 06:06:00 AM  
Blogger 2164th said...

COMPIEGNE, France (AFP) - France said a report that Osama bin Laden died this month of typhoid was unconfirmed, and launched an inquiry into how a preliminary intelligence brief detailing the assertion was leaked.Here

President Jacques Chirac stressed to journalists that "this information is in no way confirmed."

He added Saturday that he was "surprised" that the French newspaper l'Est Republicain had published an excerpt from a French secret service note relaying information from Saudi Arabia's intelligence service.

9/23/2006 06:13:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

Lawrence Wright informs us that Osama is Six feet One Inch!
(We took out one guy early on because of his height! - Tape Measure Profiling)
Also says the Kidney Problem story was a Meuth.
Among others.

9/23/2006 06:17:00 AM  
Blogger By the Nbrs said...

And in breaking news by al-Reuters...

Yassir Arafat continues to recover in a Beirut hospital...

9/23/2006 06:24:00 AM  
Blogger Habu1 said...

No doubt about it.
Quality work by the intelligence agencies that delivered the unalloyed facts of Saddam's WMD.
French,German,San Marino,Dutch, AND the DEMOCRATIC PARTY USA via Kerry,Clinton all on board with that one.
Now OBL is dead. I know I have no skepticism.
Now where's my tin foil hat?

9/23/2006 06:45:00 AM  
Blogger Bridget said...

hahaha hope it's true. Typhoid is a disease borne of unsanitary and primitive conditions, easily treated in modern societies. It would give me great pleasure to think about him suffering for weeks and weeks, knowing that he could have been saved if he weren't forced to hide in the wilderness. Hopefully lots of his companions were infected also.

9/23/2006 06:46:00 AM  
Blogger Habu1 said...

Yes, there it is.

Senator Kerry's press secretary just announced that before OBL lived, he had died, but then he lived again, but finally succumbed and was transported to the Mothership.
Kerry endorsed the release before he unendorsed it and then said he had "misspoke" and endorsed it kinda,maybe.

9/23/2006 06:49:00 AM  
Blogger 3Case said...

"...who would benefit from falsely reporting his death?"

As I noted a week or two ago, aQ because this will lead to a chant in the MSM, UN and Liberal Establishment everywhere that the "War on Terror" is now over. This allows regrouping,rearming and planning time to aQ.

Even if ObL is dead, his sidekick, the educated, homicidal munchkin from Pyramid-land, is still around and, likely, hatching his next bit of genocidal fun and frolic.

9/23/2006 07:00:00 AM  
Blogger Habu1 said...


At this point in time I don't think too many people would buy into the idea that the war on terror is over simply because OBL has or has not died.
Islam is the religion of the sword and they will need to be killed in great numbers until that sword is the size of a small pocket knife.

9/23/2006 07:16:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

Wait til you read the story on the Munchkin on the Nile as told by Lawrence Wright:
Byzantine, I tell you!
...Oops, look what that got the Pope.
In a word, it's a tale with innumerable twists, turns, and coincidences.
Not to mention twists of fate.
Most disgusting story involves Sodomizing Young boys to Blackmail them into terror.
Worse, after they are caught in the setup "authorities" in Africa give them to these Monsters expecting to get them back...
You know the rest of the story.
Uglier than fiction.

9/23/2006 07:30:00 AM  
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9/23/2006 07:31:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

don't miss CNN video on Homepage:
Musharoff is hawking his book w/W!
They are a funny pair,
but this theater has
long since transcended

9/23/2006 07:34:00 AM  
Blogger summignumi said...

What more could all the actors reporting want then target #1 to disappear so the end to GWOT can be pronounced, who here right before the elections would benefit from OBL being pronounced dead, would take a lot of wind out of the GOP re-election pitch, won't be the first time some of these foreign government wanted a certain election result here.

9/23/2006 08:13:00 AM  
Blogger NahnCee said...

Right, so the timeline as I understand it, is Pakistan doesn't ask and doesn't tell when bin Laden uses it to hide in; Pakistan gets tired of putting on a pretense of fighting the Taliban; Pakistan announces flat-out that it's offering the Taliban sanctuary if the terrorists promise to behave themselves; included in this sanctuary agreement is the promise to protect bin Laden; the US starts to consider whether that part of Pakistan is actually Pakistan any more; so if it's not Pakistan can we either go in and start killing Taliban or bomb them back to pre-Stone Age ...

and suddenly bin Laden becomes dead so there's no need for pre-Stone Age bombing.

I'm just not seeing Pakistan's fingerprint on the "bin Laden" dead story. And I wonder if Musharref has enough money to buy off the oil ticks to make it happen.

Interesting that bin Laden's cause of death is organ failure, which is sorta/kinda like the liver problems/dialysis he's been rumored to be having for years now.

9/23/2006 08:37:00 AM  
Blogger Annoy Mouse said...


Osama has left the house.

9/23/2006 09:05:00 AM  
Blogger Alexis said...

Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda have been able to jerk the world's media around like a yoyo.

How many people must one kill to compel the media to pay attention to what one has to say?

9/23/2006 10:30:00 AM  
Blogger Cedarford said...

I think we are all susceptable to the media and politican creation of the celebrity bad guy. This is The One, the Single "Evildoer" whose capture & conviction or death Will Change Everything!!

It follows the Laci Peterson and Natalie Holloway models somewhat..the person is missing, The Quest to Find Them is an ongoing storyline to pump up ratings....but with the Arch Evil Mastermind model, it supports journalistic and political laziness in avoiding informing the public about complex organizational, systems, and ideological matters that underlie the Celebrity.

We keep seeing the demise or capture of one of these celebrity creations come to naught in truly changing circumstances.

*For the other side, Sharon vegetative or in two years, Bush being gone...really mattering.
*The Moussaoui conviction.
*Domestically, the idea that capture and trial of a single drug kingpin or serial killer will have amazing effects on the illegal drug trade or future serial killings.
*The two Hezbollah leaders Israel assassinated before Nasrallah.
*The two dozen Hamas leaders whacked.
*Assad's death

Isn't about time we learn?

"Getting" Binnie is just going to be satisfying revenge - killed, captured, or just dead of wilderness diseases while on the run. It won't matter much to the war with radical Islam unless he is captured and the ACLU gives him a global propaganda platform.

Remember Mullah Omar? The celebrity one-eyed, illiterate Arch=Evildoer of the Taliban? Seems he has been entirely a non-factor in the resurrection of the Taliban.

Anyone believe that the death of the Cuban exiles celebrity Fiend, Fidel, will end Cuban communism?

Best thing we can do to piss off Binnie, if he is still alive, is say that he and Al-Zawahiri are less dangerous than originally thought, made more ineffective, as they lay low and hide. And announce we are reducing their reward downwards from 25 million to 10 for Binnie and 12 million for Al-Zawahiri. And may drop it to 5 million apiece in a few years more if they stay hiding....

All the Mega-Awards did was tell the Muslims that these guys were prestigious celebritys that were worth as much as Tom Cruise's knees in an insurance policy producers take out to protect their financial stakes in a film if Tom gets hurt. The mega-millions clearly don't work in an honor culture where Someone might betray someone for a SUV full of heroin, a herd of goats, even a million - but mega-awards mean a betrayer, his family, his tribe would be guilty of a Mega-dishonor of rejecting Jihad for infidel money - that no good Muslim could ignore or fail to avenge.

I think the large rewards made because Binnie was a celebrity and object of media and politican fixation has actually kept him far safer than he and other high value targets would have been with more modest rewards.

The people who have been betrayed have been fingered not for money, but ideological differences or because they did something to personally piss off the betrayer. All the money seems to factor into it is the betrayer within the Muslim honor culture has higher confidence that he and his family will be safe, and will be set up elsewhere. Not that they will be set up with a McMansion on the beach and the wife gets to change a burqua for designer clothing.

9/23/2006 11:29:00 AM  
Blogger 2164th said...

10-4 C4. It may be time that we learn. Don't count on it.

9/23/2006 11:40:00 AM  
Blogger Billll said...

I haven't thrown out my (philosophical) betting slip that says he died 3 years ago in the battle of Tora Bora, and has been the jelly in a rock sandwich ever since.

9/23/2006 12:19:00 PM  
Blogger doolz said...

Tora Bora was 4 and a half years ago now, but I've always been fond of that theory.

That OBL,
That OBL,
Is he buried under 10,000 tons of rock at Tora Bora?
Or in Hell?
That damned, elusive, OBL.

9/23/2006 01:32:00 PM  
Blogger Habu1 said...

i do have 'ta say that i like your ideas about shoot up the place vigilante style.

Police today, gosh darn bless 'em come in after the fact to fill out the paperwork so the DA won't press charges.

Plus we do have enough real good candidates of various demograhics to target.
Heck we wouldn't even be think'in 'bout this if ole law and order prevailed but there's jus too many examples of the feds & locals just not gett'in 'er done.
So we must protect ourselves.
Personally when we get dirty bombed I'm actually gonna wait and see if the local TV reporter dons a radiation suit to report from the site ..then a course they'll be a TV in front of evry Mosque in the country, and most of the 7-11's.
Plus we got that border invasion thing still humm'in like an electric generator. I mean how many porder patrol have shot, actually shot an invader? I never heard of one.

9/23/2006 03:34:00 PM  
Blogger Habu1 said...

Plus we've got the entire Socialist Democratic Party representing not only their own districts but runn'in cover for third world hoodlums and populations of downtrodden illitrates who want or care.
Listen to a Maxine Waters or Nancy Pelosi. Ah, hell listen to any SD they're all third world cheerleaders say'in come on in, the welfare's fine. Big Rock Candy Mountain.

9/23/2006 03:41:00 PM  
Blogger NahnCee said...

habu - so the dirty bomb goes off in Cleveland, who you gonna shoot first? A Muslim or a Democrat?

I wonder how much it would cost to hack Democratic headquarters and get a list of all their registered voters named Mohammad.

9/23/2006 03:48:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

After you read Lawrence Wright, you'll believe there was ONE man who did make a big difference:
That "Q" dude from Colorado back in the 50's.
EVERYTHING followed from there.

9/23/2006 06:01:00 PM  
Blogger Arthur Parry said...

Heh. Take a pampered millionaire's immune system out into the Afghan/Pakistan badlands, deny him modern medicine, and see how healthy he stays.

Overheard between Pakistani tribesmen:
"Who's that, then?"
"I dunno, must not be a king."
"He's got sh*t all over him."

9/23/2006 09:40:00 PM  
Blogger Ardsgaine said...

Pamper'd jades of Asia...

You shall be fed with flesh as raw as blood,
And drink in pails the strongest muscadel:
If you can live with it, then live, [...]
If not, then die like beasts, and fit for naught
But perches for the black and fatal ravens.

9/23/2006 10:25:00 PM  
Blogger 3Case said...

"Remember Mullah Omar? The celebrity one-eyed, illiterate Arch=Evildoer of the Taliban?"


You forgot "ancient Buddhist statue blower-upper".


I understand, but MSM n' da Dems have had traction with their "We are losing in Iraq" bilge...and that's pretty ripe bilge.

9/24/2006 09:56:00 AM  
Blogger ledger said...

Isn’t there still a rather large reward for OBL?

One would assume someone would have dragged his rotting carcass to US authorities and claimed the reward (or maybe just sawed off his head and brought it in).

9/24/2006 06:52:00 PM  

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