Saturday, February 04, 2006

Danish solidarity dinner

Those who want to support the Danes for their defense of freedom of speech can serve Samizdata's sample menu. Nope. Not just butter cookies and canned ham.


Blogger Kevin said...

And one can listen to their favorite music on a brand new Bang and Olufsen stereo system while enjoying this meal.

2/04/2006 03:18:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

I'm on a liquid diet.

2/04/2006 03:30:00 AM  
Blogger Kevin said...

Children’s module bedroom furniture. I’m heading over to our local outlet in an hour to pick up two beds that I ordered last week – I will ask them if they have had any troubles.

Stainless steel kitchen utensils, very sleek and modern

Danish Porcelain
Not my style but maybe yours?


2/04/2006 03:46:00 AM  
Blogger Anointiata Delenda Est said...


Carlsberg and Sonia...


2/04/2006 04:32:00 AM  
Blogger StoutFellow said...

CNN will be fasting - out of respect for Islam.

As for Sonia, settle down boys. You know she doesn't cheat on her husband. At least not with other men.

2/04/2006 05:10:00 AM  
Blogger yahoo said...

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2/04/2006 05:28:00 AM  
Blogger Jamie said...

yahoo, are you serious? Or, maybe I'm misinterpreting your use of "condone"? Or maybe you're not considering anti-Zionism (which I believe is euphemistic) a form of anti-Semitism?

Anyway. We're going to do smørgåsbord for Super Bowl. Maybe not the pickled eels.

2/04/2006 05:54:00 AM  
Blogger C-Low said...

This is very interesting to chew on?

This is an Aljizz online poll English watched largely by EU Arabs. I clicked on it out of pure curiosity thinking it would be overwhelming and it was but in the exact opposite way I would have imagined.

By 70% to 30% EU Arabs don’t support the boycott. This really surprised me considering the really ugly comments usually posted in the remarks area (grantee many are actual EU, EU's but not a overwhelming majority).

Could this issue be actually sheering the EU Arabs from the ME Arabs? After this poll I have to wonder.

2/04/2006 06:00:00 AM  
Blogger erp said...

Danish butter cookies -- the culmination of culinary concocting! Best with cold milk, a comfortable chair, good light and a great book.

2/04/2006 06:03:00 AM  
Blogger remoteman said...

Don't forget to eat baby back pork ribs too. I've read that most of those consumed in the US are from Denmark. Weird I know, but there you are. Being pork, it sends a double message.

2/04/2006 06:16:00 AM  
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2/04/2006 07:08:00 AM  
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2/04/2006 07:22:00 AM  
Blogger Starling David Hunter said...

Will the Boycott of Danish goods work?

"With all the apologies and recriminations and warnings flying back and forth, scant attention has been devoted to the question of whether boycotts even work and if so, how well. At first it seems like a no-brainer. In theory, you stop buying goods from some offensive or obnoxious company or country and you hit them where it hurts- in the pocketbook. In practice, it is not that simple. Here is a sample of abstracts taken from three research papers published in the last several years on the efficacy of boycotts, research that points out the need for patience, a carefully-crafted strategy for the management of public perception, and a sophisticated understanding of the incentive structure of the target."

"One other aspect of the story that is not being discussed is that it was the Danes that led a boycott of their own against a highly unpopular Middle Eastern country in 2002 - Israel."

2/04/2006 07:55:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

While you are dining on Danish pork, try reading the newest Frank Kaplan piece in Slate.

You'll discover that the laments of good ol' C4 have been answered and how Mr Rumsfeld's ideas of Military Transformation have been smashed on the rocks of reality.

Much as Mr Bush's War on Terror has been diminshed by a lack of Goals and any Plan for Victory, within Mr Cheney's expected lifespan.

By 2008 the next President may be able to identify the Enemy, or at least tell US where he is hiding.

Perhaps she'll have the balls to tell US why he is allowed Sancturay, there.

How the QDR dashes his dreams of military transformation.

2/04/2006 07:59:00 AM  
Blogger speaker-to-animals said...

while you all are congratulating yourselves on your infinite superiority to those intolerant, backwards, cave-squatting, kaffiyeh'd savages, i have just a few things to point out.
1. the cartoons were originally published in september.
2. hardliners added even more offensive cartoons to the booklet circulating in the ME.
3. portraiture is actually expressly forbidden in the Qu'ran. the fundamentalists are using the cartoons to drive a wedge between the moderates and the West.

some entities are using this whole issue--it is contrived, staged. the fundamentalists are running the media, the moderate muslims, AND the bloggers.
all your righteous indignation over lack of tolerance, reprinting the cartoons, pics of protesters, all coals to newcastle.
the SD is doing the right thing. trying to defuse the situation.
but the rest of you suckers are being played like a ten pound trout on twenty pound test.

Those ignorant, intolerant backwards savages are kicking our asses in the meme wars. if we can't get a little smarter in our counterpropaganda, i think we're doomed.

...then we're stupid.
And we'll all die.
--Zora, from Blade Runner

2/04/2006 07:59:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...


You are totally correct in the observation that this is a manufactured Crisis.

There is no amount of apology or "moderating influence" that can be delivered by the DoS that will calm the waters.

The crisis is well beyond the scope of US influence, so calling the Cartoons inappropriate or misguided are all for naught, and only cuase the "Outrage" to intensify.

Religion is not Sacred in the "West", not mine, not yours and certainly not Mohammed's.
If the Mohammedans in the streets cannot accept that, they have to die. Sooner or Later, better it be sooner and we be done with it.
Before Britney Spears or Madonna cuts another CD.

2/04/2006 08:20:00 AM  
Blogger speaker-to-animals said...

rat, religion is too sacred in the West. Religion is the nuclear option in the meme wars.
if you don't think that is true in this country, look at every place religion trumps science, look at the schiavo effect, look at the flap over the psuedo-science of ID, and GW's attack on biotech in the SotU.
it is true everywhere.

2/04/2006 08:26:00 AM  
Blogger A Jacksonian said...

What, no aquavit?

For shame!

And nothing like it to follow up the meal you are planning...

2/04/2006 08:37:00 AM  
Blogger speaker-to-animals said...

and, everyone, while you're buying danish, i highly reccommend Baskar Druppa (bitter drops).
it's absinthe.

2/04/2006 08:50:00 AM  
Blogger Annoy Mouse said...

I love Danes, but is that Ludefisk I smell?

2/04/2006 08:57:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

Religion exists in the West, speaker, but is not Sacred.

If Religion was held Sacred, there would be no Piss Christ, the "artist" would be Socially Excomunnicated, instead of exalted by their Peers.

Religion is lampooned and often vilified, not actions that occur to "Sacred" things.
The Mohammedans understand what makes something Sacred and will fight for it. The West has already moved beyond things or ideas held as Sacred.
To them Mohammed is Sacred, to me, he's a joke from the Past. To be lampooned and made fun of as desired.
If the Mohammedans want to go to War about Western insensitifity, well, the President says we are at War, now. May as well get on with it. No time like the present.

As Mr Reagan was cited as saying
"If not now, when, if not US, who?

2/04/2006 08:59:00 AM  
Blogger Zhang Fei said...

DR: If Religion was held Sacred, there would be no Piss Christ, the "artist" would be Socially Excomunnicated, instead of exalted by their Peers.

Actually, in a society where religion is sacred - without being encapsulated in quotes - people who demean that religion or its symbols are committing the *crime* of blasphemy, the penalty for which is death, at the hands of the state, or of whatever mob gathers first to put him out of his misery. Religion isn't sacred in the West, and hasn't been sacred for some time. What religion is in the West is traditional - in the sense of hereditary - of being handed down, generation after generation, much as we have breakfast in the morning. But just as we would not kill to avenge any insults to the institution of breakfast, we will not kill to avenge any insults to the institutions of Christianity.

2/04/2006 09:21:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...


While you explain it better, perhaps, than I, the thrust of the thought remains true.

2/04/2006 09:24:00 AM  
Blogger James Kielland said...

Looks like the Danish and Norwegian embassies have been torched in Damascus.

2/04/2006 09:25:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

That will be at least two votes against EU membership for Turkey, or not.

Seems like those words of moderation from Foggy Bottom hit home. Really had a calming effect on the Mohammedans, in Turkey.

2/04/2006 09:27:00 AM  
Blogger sirius_sir said...

Wretchard, you should start offering bumper stickers and/or tee-shirts that comment on the issues of the day. And you've already identified a first theme: Eat Danish.

Er, maybe that should read instead: Buy Danish

2/04/2006 09:34:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

which brings us to the question of the day.
Is Sonia Danish?

2/04/2006 09:46:00 AM  
Blogger James Kielland said...

The riots in Paris some month ago apparently relied on cellular telephone text messaging for coordination. I just found this bit of news:

"Swedish Radio News says the attack came after rumors were spread by SMS text messages that Danes were to gather in Copenhagen to burn copies of the Moslem holy book, the Koran."

2/04/2006 09:47:00 AM  
Blogger Dave H said...

From my agnostic point of view, if Islam is a "religion" it is close to devil worship, Mohammed being the anti-christ personified. However these ideas are probably archaic, in this PC modern world all gods or devils seem to have a rough equivalence, and so Allah is the same as the Trinity in RC theology or Yahweh in Judaism. I would think that some of our profound leaders would muse on these possibilities a bit before they grant the status of "religion" to some beliefs. Besides where do Hinduism, Buddhism, Confucianism or even the slightly archaic Zoroastrism fit in? These are cultures not "religions", cultures are not yet recognized as sacred cows. Oops, a Hindu reference. One can probably go to war against a culture, the West is particularly well suited to attack cultures. See how the French (a sub-culture) resent the golden arches (temple symbol?) of McDonalds.

2/04/2006 09:54:00 AM  
Blogger Perry de Havilland said...

We are seeing a HUGE mistake being made by our enemies. We always hear how the Muslims would not be so 'difficult' if it wasn't for Israel/Iraq... and this explodes that myth into a thousand pieces.

Far from winning this meme war, the enemy has just walked into an intellectual killing field and far from trying exit it quickly having realised their mistake, they have just started to urge all their chums to join them in the ambush zone.

From the persective of someone to whom liberty matters, I can hardly believe our luck. Guys, they want a culture war based on FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION? Hot damn! Your wish is my command, Abdul! Never have I seen such a golden opportunity and I for one intend to milk it for all it is worth.


Perry de Havilland ...-

2/04/2006 09:55:00 AM  
Blogger Tony said...

Desert Rat,

That Kaplan article is as slanted as its opening insult: "If Donald Rumsfeld were more likable, he might be a tragic figure."

Even the generally negative WaPo demonstrates less BDS than Kaplan. Ability to Wage 'Long War' Is Key To Pentagon Plan
Conventional Tactics De-Emphasized

Major initiatives include a 15 percent boost in the number of elite U.S. troops known as Special Operations Forces, a near-doubling of the capacity of unmanned aerial drones to gather intelligence, a $1.5 billion investment to counter a biological attack, and the creation of special teams to find, track and defuse nuclear bombs and other catastrophic weapons.
Central to the first two goals is a substantial 15 percent increase in U.S. Special Operations Forces (SOF), now with 52,000 personnel, including secret Delta Force operatives skilled in counterterrorism.

The review calls for a one-third increase in Army Special Forces battalions, whose troops are trained in languages and to work with indigenous fighters; an increase in Navy SEAL teams; and the creation of a new SOF squadron of unmanned aerial vehicles to "locate and target enemy capabilities" in countries where access is difficult.

The above tactics seem pretty well suited to getting bad guys hiding out in Indian Country and dealing with terrorist's threats of WMD's, don't they?

Contrary to Kaplan's suggestions, we are phasing out B-52's, C-130's, and other aging aircraft. The Air Force is getting a new long-range strike force, with a new bomber in 12 years. If anyone doubts that China is our most serious, long-term strategic military threats, they are kidding themselves.

Kaplan sneers at turning boomers into missile ships, while they each will carry 150 Cruise missiles, and deploy in 2007.

Since the QDR's were initiated in the 90's, this is the first time we've had one written by a SecDef with four years experience. The first one Rumsfeld wrote was thrown together in the aftermath of 9/11, so I'm not surprised that the vision has changed.

So, let's see, this QDR addresses our current need to fight globally, clandestinely in denied territory if need be. It more than doubles our unmanned aerial forces while retiring old assets and reducing the AF by 40,000. At the same time, the plan responds to China's massive military modernization rather than pulling a Clinton and pretending we have nothing to fear.

I'd say this is pretty "transformative." Kaplan's main message is consistent from the first few words to the end - he doesn't like Rummy. Big whoop.

But thank you very much for introducing the topic of the QDR. I hope others more knowledgeable than me will post on it. Now, I guess I'll go read it.

2/04/2006 09:59:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

It is assured that Mr Kaplan is a bit biased, he does not try to hide it, though.
Ralph Peters, IMO, is not. He comes to roughly the same conclusions in his dissection of the "plan".

General Scales, an unbiased pundit?, says the US Army is not equipped to take on Iran, successfully. Where is the "Plan" to achieve the capability? It is nonexistent.

I think more in line with Mr Peters and President Eisenhower, the military industrial complex has it's own agenda, and it is not always what is best for US.
Duke Cunningham can explain it to US, from his jail cell.

2/04/2006 10:10:00 AM  
Blogger speaker-to-animals said...

hmmm...i guess our conflict is in the meaning of "sacred".
i think holding something "sacred" means you believe it absense of scientific proof.
Like Steve Sailer, i think in a just society citizenry trumps religion, ethnicity, and race.
here, ID, schiavo, and GW's war on biotech are evidence of religion trumping citizenry, trumping science.

2/04/2006 10:10:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

In the NY town that imposed ID, did not the citizenry reject the Program and vote out the School Board that had imposed the ID Program. I think it was NY, but I could be wrong about the State, not the outcome of the Election.

Religion is a powerful force in the US, to be sure. But it is not held in high esteem by all of US.

Just as to the meaning of Sacred, in which I agree with z.f..

2/04/2006 10:18:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

A leading US Government spokesman, SecDef Rumsfeld said yesterday that
" ... "The Iranian regime is today the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism," Rumsfeld told an annual security conference in Munich where talk of Iran's nuclear program was at the top of the agenda. ... "

President Bush has reneged on his promise to treat those "that support Terrorists as if they were Terrorists".

Guess we have seen the wrap up to the War on Terror in Ramadi, Iraq.

No Terror Sponsoring State, other than Saddam's Iraq (3 years since it was defeated) has been challenged under the Bush Doctrine.

While "complete Victory" has not been announced, the Military is now planning on War with China, as the Mohammedan threat has diminsihed and Oil supply security is assured, worldwide.
The General President of Pakistan assures the World that aQ operatives in Pakistan are no longer a threat, but that US unmanned aerial drones are. The General President then asked for another umpteen billion dollars in Aid and Earthquake relief.

2/04/2006 10:34:00 AM  
Blogger Tony said...


I can't find anything the well-respected Ralph Peters wrote about the QDR since it has actually been published yesterday. Can you give us a pointer?

Btw, now that I'm reading it, I see that Kaplan apparently did not read it very well, if at all.

2/04/2006 10:39:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

Rumsfeld also called the US actions in Iraq unproductive.
"... Rumsfeld said they were using Iraq as a training and recruiting ground, in the same way as they operated in Afghanistan when the Taliban were in charge ... "

The US has by it's actions, according to Mr Rumsfeld, recreated an enviorment condusive to the re-establishment of the training facilities that were destroyed in Afghanistan.

140,000 US Forces in Iraq, working in conjuction with over 200,000 Iraqi troops cannot shut down these Enemy training centers, in Iraq.

You would think that we could shut those Terrorist training camps down, but nah, it seems to be beyond US capability, at present.
According to Mr Rumsfeld.

VP Cheney is paraphrased, "Give it another decade or two, maybe we'll have success, by then"

2/04/2006 10:46:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

If some one has a link to the actual "Plan" I'd like to read it, as well.

There is this from 2 Feb '06
Mr Peters


2/04/2006 10:53:00 AM  
Blogger Tony said...

Google sez:

Your search - "... Rumsfeld said they were using Iraq as a training and recruiting ground, in the same way as they operated in Afghanistan when the Taliban were in charge ... " - did not match any documents.

But the Cheney line is funny.

2/04/2006 10:54:00 AM  
Blogger diabeticfriendly said...

while the entire islamic world works it'sself up like a 7 yr old in a temper tantrum over cartoons, they remain silent on:

Jihad in Philippines - Mujahideen: 6, Dhimmis: 0

The brave holy warriors in the Philippines awoke several families in their homes last night on Abu Sayyaf island, demanding to know the religious orientation of the inhabitants. Upon learning that they were Christians, they opened fire, killing six people, including an infant.


KRONG PENANG, Thailand, Feb 3 (Reuters) - Suspected Muslim militants killed a Buddhist teacher and wounded four others in two separate shootings in Thailand's restive Muslim south on Friday, police said.

this doesnt include the 3 christian 16yr old girls who were beheaded this week

2/04/2006 10:58:00 AM  
Blogger Tony said...

Quadrennial Defense
Review Report,
February 6, 2006

2/04/2006 10:58:00 AM  
Blogger speaker-to-animals said...

i guess i mean sacred in the sense of sacred cows, things held inviolable without proof.
Dover was a specific case.
i am referring to the leader of the free world promoting ID and proposing the banning of biotech.
and supporting an emergency law to attempt the faith healing of a dead woman, against all scientic evidence.

2/04/2006 11:01:00 AM  
Blogger diabeticfriendly said...

i think all medicine, food and equipment should have little stars of david, crosses, budda's and even cresents on them, let the moslems boycott all goods made by people they dont like..

let's start with jewish & christian created medicine & computers

I'd love to see islamic parents REJECT jew, christian and pagan meds and let their kids die....

fuckin monkeys

2/04/2006 11:01:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

Took a little while to find it again, but the Rumsfeld quote came via Rueters
which is sometimes a bit biased in it's spin, but accurate in it's facts.

2/04/2006 11:22:00 AM  
Blogger Tony said...

I have total respect for Ralph Peters, but he's surely letting his Army bias rule here. And he obviously didn't read the QDR before he wrote this: The only winners from the latest QDR are our enemies and our most powerful defense contractors — and it's getting hard to tell the difference between them.

Special Site on the Quadrennial Defense
Review Report,
February 6, 2006

Here's some of the kind of propaganda coming out of the JCS Chairman and others:

It incorporates lessons learned from operational experiences from Iraq and Afghanistan, Ryan said. Similarly, it incorporates experience gained in other operations associated with the so-called "long war" against terrorism in places like the Philippines, Horn of Africa, Georgia and Northern Africa.

As a blueprint for shaping the force to carry out these far-reaching responsibilities, the QDR shifts from traditional thinking in pointing the direction forward, Henry said. "It's not about numbers. Numbers don't tell you if you can get the job done," he said. "It's about capabilities."

The report focuses on a lighter, more agile, more deployable force that operates more jointly with a streamlined, more efficient defense operation supporting it, Vice Admiral Evan Chanik, the Joint Staff's director of force structure, resources and assessment, told reporters.

It promotes more special operations, intelligence gathering, language and cultural capabilities, improved communications and enhanced security-cooperation activities.

Chanik called the QDR evolutionary rather than revolutionary and said it reflects an ongoing DoD transformation that began in 2001. The terrorist attacks on the U.S. on Sept. 11 of that year and the war on terror that resulted accelerated this transformation, he said.

"We're making sure we have a range of capabilities into the future," Chanik said.

Servicemembers won't be surprised by what ahead for them in the QDR, Chanik predicted. "The average military guy out there understands we live in a changing world and that as this world changes, we need to change with it," he said.

I definitely don't share Ralph Peters' prediction that we're going to be engaged in more of these occupation exercises like Iraq any time soon.

Think of it, in 2007, we'll have some Boomers relieved of their unusable 24 Trident nukes, and given 150 Cruise missiles. That's equivalent to an underwater aircraft carrier full of unmanned Kamikazes. We're going to more than double Predators, the kinds of weapons we use in places we don't want to send troops, like Yemen and Pakistan. This QDR is addressing the needs of the Global Long War we are engaged in right now.

Everyone hates the dreaded Eisenhower "military-industrial complex" ... but using the publication of a truly transformational QDR as an occasion to bitch about it is a stretch.

Now, the fact that the US has a military budget equal to the next several military powers COMBINED does lead one to wonder where all that money is going....

2/04/2006 11:25:00 AM  
Blogger Tony said...

Thanks Desert,

So, that's Reuters you are quoting. It didn't sound like something Rummy would actually say:

Although he labeled the Islamic republic of Iran as the main sponsor of terrorism, Rumsfeld said Islamic terrorists had made Iraq the "central front in their war against the civilized world."

Rumsfeld said they were using Iraq as a training and recruiting ground, in the same way as they operated in Afghanistan when the Taliban were in charge.

But he vehemently rejected any suggestion that Iraq had been a catalyst for a global wave of terrorist acts.

While accusing Rummy of the negative statement, at least they publish the fact that Rummy actually totally rejects the substance of their accusation.

Rumsfeld / Rice in '08!

2/04/2006 11:33:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

Tony and 'Rat,
Thanks for educating us that have not taken the time to do so ourselves.
Too bad Reuters fooled Rat. ;-)

2/04/2006 11:43:00 AM  
Blogger desert rat said...

fooled not, doug.

I agree that our actions in Iraq are not a catalyst for the Mohammedans, but if Iraq is their new training base, ala Taliban Afghanistan, we are not doing as well as previously reported.

I would not have thought the Mohammedans could have Training Bases, in Iraq, comparable to Afghansistan under the Taliban. What with over 350,000 Allied troops, there.

Mr Rumsfeld did not dispute that, according to Rueters, just that the US Actions did not cause the upsurge in Terrorist activity, Worldwide.

2/04/2006 12:04:00 PM  
Blogger Aristides said...

Two things:

1. Peter Bergen makes the same point as DRat: our strategic blunder in Iraq is that we have allowed terrorists to go to school against the most advanced military on the planet. When conflict dies down, these skills will be disseminated internationally, with untold repercussions.

Response: This military has also gone to school on the terrorists. Bergen's point depends on the world being static. If we were going to have to deal with them down the line, better to figure them out now.

2. (Via Instapundit): A Jordanian newspaper editor sacked after publishing cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad has been arrested.

Jihad Momani is accused of insulting religion under Jordan's press and publications law.

Jordan is a 'moderate' Muslim nation, of course.

2/04/2006 12:14:00 PM  
Blogger selectman said...

Desert Rat -
"As Mr. Reagan was cited as saying, 'If not now, when, if not US, who?'

Mr. Reagan said a lot of nice things, but here he was certainly paraphrasing Rabbi Hillel, who said ((about 2000 years ago (Mishna Pirke Avot 1:12)),
"If I am not for mysef, who will be for me? If I am for myself alone, what am I? And if not now, when?"

2/04/2006 12:23:00 PM  
Blogger Tony said...

Terrorists are also learning about guys like this in Iraq.

This guy's my wallpaper. He has the proper attitude.

2/04/2006 01:11:00 PM  
Blogger speaker-to-animals said...

really good analysis at Goldstein's

2/04/2006 01:58:00 PM  
Blogger Buddy Larsen said...

Yeh, that Hillel Prayer is old as the hills and very beautiful--seems the longer version must be just in some accounts and not others.

2/04/2006 02:04:00 PM  
Blogger Tony said...


Please do a post on the QDR and how it addresses the asymmetrical aspects of this Global Long War.

Thx, T.

Ps. Sorry for being so doggedly off-topic. heh.

2/04/2006 02:42:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

You wouldn't find it in a No Account like you.

2/04/2006 07:15:00 PM  
Blogger NahnCee said...

Far from winning this meme war, the enemy has just walked into an intellectual killing field and far from trying exit it quickly having realised their mistake, they have just started to urge all their chums to join them in the ambush zone.

Agree. I think this was started by Ye Olde Saudi's trying to deflect attention from their annual Hajj massacree of pilgrims. The Saudi's just assumed that all governments around the world have the same lock on their journalists as is done in the Magic Kingdom, so the assumption further was that the Danish government would clamp down on the cartoonists, some backs would be lashed, apologies would be issued and everything would be hunky-dory with another Hajj crisis averted.

The Arabs (including the Saud's) badly misjudged how the press works in the west. And once it was inflated into a world-wide crisis for a humiliation-based society there is no backing down, so they've been upping the bet by calling out the "Arab Street" to do their demonstrations. Remember the press that resulted from the Koran in the toilet story and how many apologies *that* gained them?

But I don't think the West is going to back down. Increasingly, people are stepping up to shout "I am Spartacus!" and to stare down the amassed and rampaging Muslims on the other side of the line. Governments and diplomats will doubtless figure out a spineless way out of the dilemma ("We'll never do it again, promise ... at least until next time."), but individual citizens are NOT going to back down just because their State Department or CNN or the NY Times have proven to be weasels.

I don't understand -- and haven't understood since 9/12/2001 -- why our rage doesn't frighten the Muslims. I know our laughter at their ineptitude does.

2/04/2006 07:52:00 PM  
Blogger desert rat said...

Impotent Rage, nanchee, does not cause anyone to quake in fear.

None of the Mohammedans, living, have seen US win a War, most of US have not, either.

We believe we can win, on Command, and that the Command, it just has not yet been given.
The Mohammedans do not believe the Command will come, more and more they have no fear of US.
They have met US in Afghanistan and Iraq, and are still in the Game, unbowed, unbeaten & defiant.
Check out aristides post on the dollars spent, lives lost & opportunities squandered because of the Terrorists.
The Mohammedans have not spent near as much, disregard the lives lost & have created their own opportunities.

Fear of US is not yet in the Cards.
We will have to have some real Victories before Fear enters their World.

2/04/2006 08:26:00 PM  
Blogger lmg said...

DR: If we turned the entire Muslim world to glass, leaving only a single, smoldering survivor, that survivor would raise his fists in the air and declare victory. We're dealing with psychotics.

ALL: If anyone is still reading, I'm curious if your friends are as aware of this cartoon crisis as we are. It was not a topic at work this week, and the woman who cut my hair this morning was unaware of it.

2/04/2006 09:30:00 PM  
Blogger Zhang Fei said...

Michelle Malkin: The ugly reality is we would not see “Piss Christ” or “The Book of Daniel” or Kanye West posing as Christ on the cover of Rolling Stone if Christians rioted and issued credible death threats every time things like that happened. The MSM can mock the sacrifice of our military and belittle its strength, because they know the Joint Chiefs are going to write letters, not drop JDAMS, in response.

2/04/2006 11:25:00 PM  
Blogger Porkov said...

Most of the people I know are aware of the cartoon issue. It amazes me that the farther left they are, the more prone they are to deploring the US State Dept's call for restraint in the US press. This is deliciously ironic - the same crowd that imposes the culture of political correctness feels that if the US is officially for being tasteful and considerate, they're against it. So you've got the so-called liberals fanning the flames of war.
At UC-Berkeley in 1963-64, the Free Speech movement decreed that freedom meant saying the "F" word. I considered that word vulgar and bellicose, and deplored its common use. Did that make me a party to suppression of free speech? Like the use of the "N" word and the "C" word, I consider that its use reflects on the people who use it, identifying them as coarse and crass and unworthy of polite society. That's one good reason NOT to make it illegal - otherwise how are we going to identify the savages and barbarians?
Likewise for the Islam baiters, and those who rise to the bait.

2/04/2006 11:26:00 PM  
Blogger PeterBoston said...

If you think that the explode-a-dopes are the only folks that will put you in jail for blasphemy, walk into the San Francisco city hall and say something with the word faggots in it.

The PC crowd will shut down the blowback soon enough when they realize it also mocks their own ham-handed attempt at thought control.

2/05/2006 02:04:00 AM  
Blogger Aristides said...

First, I want to restate a conviction of mine:

By the way, this is why we will win (re: the post, and the discussion).

Wretchard has created, and continues to produce, inestimable value online, in the best tradition of America. An informed citizenry is a victorious citizenry.

In that vein, I would like to highlight some of this blog's secondary benefits:

Nahncee: I don't understand -- and haven't understood since 9/12/2001 -- why our rage doesn't frighten the Muslims.

This is a true concern. They, the Islamists, really don't know.

Which causes this to be true:

Desert Rat: We will have to have some real Victories before Fear enters their World.

LMG brings up another thing we should think about:

If anyone is still reading, I'm curious if your friends are as aware of this cartoon crisis as we are. It was not a topic at work this week, and the woman who cut my hair this morning was unaware of it.

Only a few of my friends knew. They all read blogs.

2/05/2006 02:38:00 AM  
Blogger Doug said...

You left out the "V" word.
The Vagina Monologues Slut is now into her third year of talking to her STOMACH.
Not being a young thing, I doubt if she'll make it all the way up to her "brain" on this earth.
At least in the Privacy of my own Castle I can scream at the radio:
"Keep Your Crotch Outta My Face!"

2/05/2006 02:39:00 AM  
Blogger Marcus Aurelius said...

Being from Wisconsin I can not find any Lurpak butter. I do recall seeing that brand in the UAE (when I was there) and in fact that was the butter I usually purchased.

However, I have been able to find Danish cheeses in the stores and one of the cheese factories owned by Danish Arla is located in Wisconsin .

So before the Super Bowl today it is a trip to the store for Halvarti cheese and Carlsberg beer.

2/05/2006 05:18:00 AM  
Blogger Tony said...

As to the question, who is aware of the 'cartoon crisis' - I did have one Liberal die-hard send me the State Department announcement deploring the cartoons and offense to our sensitive Muslim brothers. Of course, my Lib friend was sending it along with the subject line: "With Islamofascists rioting all over the globe, the Bush administration takes a bold stand."

For the Libs, Bush is the true enemy, and the funny guys in the Nativity outfits and the furious rioters are really none of the Libs concern. They're "no threat" doncha know?

2/05/2006 05:47:00 AM  
Blogger Porkov said...

If this is a Machiavellian plot to engage the PC crowd in a mass lemming-like plunge into anti-Islamism, Karl Rove (snark) couldn't have planned it better.

2/05/2006 06:02:00 AM  
Blogger NahnCee said...

So when do we get to see some numbers on whether or not the West's anti-boycott is working?

2/05/2006 09:19:00 AM  
Blogger Marcus Aurelius said...

I think the Islamoids have us beat on the boycott.

Here in the West you have to get people to boycott or anti-boycott by persuasion and then we have to struggle with forgetfulness and the like.

In Saudia all the rulers have to do is tell the stores to remove all Danish products from the shelves and to discontinue buying Danish products for their shelves OR ELSE.

None-the-less we need to make the effort.

2/05/2006 10:56:00 AM  
Blogger meredith said...


here is a stack more cartoons i hadn't seen before also some nice mo bombhead t-shirts

2/06/2006 07:59:00 AM  
Blogger Eman said...

This is a great post! Thanks for supporting the Danes!

- Eman
SAMMENHOLD: The Danish Solidarity Blog

4/06/2006 09:00:00 PM  

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