Thursday, December 08, 2005

Kong's last stand 2

Ublog has an answer to the question of what aircraft King Kong fought that fatal day atop the Empire State Building, complete with dramatic photos. Of course, he points out the "planes were models".

17 Comments:

Blogger jeff said...

Anybody think that... just maybe... they used more than one type of airplane model?

I dunno - did they have hobby shops that the prop guy could have run down to and scooped up a bunch of kits?

12/08/2005 12:53:00 PM  
Blogger Atlanta Lawyer said...

According to one site:

"The planes used to topple King Kong from the top of the Empire State Building were four basic navy training models, Curtiss 02C-2 and Navy NY. The scenes were shot using these real planes, miniatures and a full-scale mock-up which featured a Vickers-style gun on a swivel mount which was used for close shots of the pilots (Cooper and Schoedsack) firing at Kong.

"Director Schoedsack donated $100 to the Officers' Mess fund at Floyd Bennit Field to secure the pilots and their craft. He gave each of the pilots $10 under the table and they were so happy with the extra money that they decided to do something special to show how much they appreciated it. As Schoedsack shot the planes approaching him he realized that they were actually linked together by lines decorated by colorful flags. Needless to say that scene had to be re-shot."

http://www.aboyd.com/kong/kongfaq2.html#A10

12/08/2005 01:23:00 PM  
Blogger TigerHawk said...

They were models? Was the Empire State Building also a model? And Kong? Don't tell me that he was a model!

Next thing you'll be telling me that "Rosebud" was the name of Kane's sled.

12/08/2005 06:33:00 PM  
Blogger Mannning said...

A question: My Father flew in the Tennessee National Guard Observation Squadron in the 1930-1936 timeframe. They were flying aircraft painted with the then-Air Corps stripes and yellow wings. I believe I remember my Father saying that the planes were OA-10s, carrying a crew of two--pilot and observer, and they had Liberty engines. I was taken up in one when 9 months old, which I strangely do not remember, but my Mother was horrified! Those OA-10s I remember looked a lot like the Kong planes. Can anyone set me straight?

12/08/2005 07:47:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

"I was taken up in one when 9 months old, which I strangely do not remember, but my Mother was horrified!"
---
Men do the damndest things with their young sons!
Our son survived being trolled many times through shark territory by his father.
Dad has great ideas about making his little man into a big one, and any spark of brilliance possibly residing in dad's mind is blacked out.
I guess it beats absentmindedly leaving the kid on the roof of the car and driving off.

12/08/2005 08:16:00 PM  
Blogger desert rat said...

doug

Water skiing with the tyke?

Our was he deep?

Turned out well, regardless, aye

12/09/2005 05:39:00 AM  
Blogger JSAllison said...

Grandkid as bait, wotta concept... so how do you keep him wiggling at depth?

12/09/2005 06:25:00 AM  
Blogger Mannning said...

Yes, it beats being dropped out of the plane at the top of a lazy loop, too!

I still don't know how I was strapped into the cockpit, since the picture I have merely shows me being held up out of the cockpit with both of Dad's hands, probably after landing.

Then there was my young daughter that I belted to the mast of a Sunfish while we sailed around near Hyannis. Fathers do crazy things when young and supposedly invincible!

12/09/2005 12:32:00 PM  
Blogger Phil Vitek said...

Here is a more definitive answer as to what planes shot down "that pesky Kong". This is found at http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/buildings/new-england/empire-state/info/info.htm

"Of the over 200 movies in which this landmark is featured, none is more famous than King Kong (1993) in which the monster sought refuge on the building's tower.

"What sort of planes were those that shot down King Kong?

"The planes used to topple King Kong from the top of the Empire State Building were four basic navy training models, Curtiss 02C-2 and Navy NY. The scenes were shot using these real planes, miniatures and a full-scale mock-up which featured a Vickers-style gun on a swivel mount which was used for close shots of the pilots (Cooper and Schoedsack) firing at Kong.

"Director Schoedsack donated $100 to the Officers' Mess fund at Floyd Bennet Field to secure the pilots and their craft. He gave each of the pilots $10 under the table and they were so happy with the extra money that they decided to do something special to show how much they appreciated it. As Schoedsack shot the planes approaching him he realized that they were actually linked together by lines decorated by colorful flags. Needless to say that scene had to be re-shot. Cooper and Schoesdsack were the Producer and Director."

Regards, Phil Vitek

12/09/2005 12:36:00 PM  
Blogger Tony said...

See, now this shows where "words" become cages for Ideas.

At first, it was about planes in the flying scenes, then it became reduced to the still photograph, then a blown up portion of the still.

In the movie itself, real planes were seen flying around in the sky, right?

As for the planes themselves, Duke Cunningham's Phantom's airwake would have popped these biplanes like a child blowing a dandelion 'wish' in the wind.

King Kong would have been in a world of hurt if Duke brought his F-4 to bear.

12/09/2005 04:10:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

Tony,
Do you think they would be bothered by this guy's wake?

12/09/2005 05:43:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

"Grandkid as bait, wotta concept... so how do you keep him wiggling at depth? "
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Shark's evidently like to see a clear silhouette near the surface, and are esp attracted to small circular shaped objects bobbing along like Sea Turtles, so I had him hold onto my feet as I trolled around.
Not sure if that would rank higher on the Darwin award scale than belting your daughter to the mast or not!
Must have had the poor kid convinced he'd lose his manhood if he didn't at least ACT like he was as stupid as his dad.
No doubt the mom's would hold no ill feelings if something untoward happened...

12/09/2005 05:57:00 PM  
Blogger Mannning said...

Probability of being blown down off Hyannis versus probability of a shark attack at that time. Hard to say. Call it evens!

12/09/2005 07:55:00 PM  
Blogger Tony said...

See, now this shows where "words" become cages for Ideas.

At first, it was about planes in the flying scenes, then it became reduced to the still photograph, then a blown up portion of the still.

In the movie itself, real planes were seen flying around in the sky, right?

As for the planes themselves, Duke Cunningham's Phantom's airwake would have popped these biplanes like a child blowing a dandelion 'wish' in the wind.

King Kong would have been in a world of hurt if Duke brought his F-4 to bear.

12/10/2005 07:05:00 AM  
Blogger Tony said...

Doug,

That's an interesting picture, an SR-71 flying through a gaggle of biplanes. What would happen?

Of course, the biplanes would have to be flying right over the tarmac at Beale or Okinawa to even get in the way, the Blackbird and they inhabit slightly different climes.

But, even though the Blackbird is about 50% larger, and twice as heavy at takeoff, and the J-58's generate twice as much thrust, I wonder which plane creates more turbulence? The skate-like Phantom, or the the Star Wars-like Blackbird?

Rwe would know.

12/10/2005 12:42:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

I think the speed differential alone might let us non RWE's bet safely on the SR.
...whole new meaning to
"Never Knew What Hit Him"

12/10/2005 02:08:00 PM  
Blogger Doug said...

RIP Lester Moore

12/10/2005 02:09:00 PM  

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