Rest In Pieces
Nick Cohen explains why he abandoned the church of the Left in a Guardian article where he argued it was about to betray its principles for a second time within living memory. The first was when it sold its soul to Stalin in exchange for the debased coin of pacifistic self-righteousness. Its second embrace of totalitarianism is today, exchanging the labels "Islam" for "Communism" and "Arabia" for "Russia". Cohen compared the two betrayals.
Auden noticed a retreat from universal principles in the 1930s - communism was fine in 'semi-barbaric' Russia but would have been a screaming outrage in a civilised country. He should have been alive today. With no socialism to provide international solidarity, good motives of tolerance and respect for other cultures have had the unintended consequence of leading a large part of post-modern liberal opinion into the position of 19th-century imperialists. It is presumptuous and oppressive to suggest that other cultures want the liberties we take for granted, their argument runs. So it may be, but believe that and the upshot is that democracy, feminism and human rights become good for whites but not for browns and brown-skinned people who contradict you are the tools of the neo-conservatives. On the other hand when confronted with a movement of contemporary imperialism - Islamism wants an empire from the Philippines to Gibraltar - and which is tyrannical, homophobic, misogynist, racist and homicidal to boot, they feel it is valid because it is against Western culture. It expresses its feelings in a regrettably brutal manner perhaps, but that can't hide its authenticity.
But it is the incidental argument in Cohen's chain reasoning that is most significant. He knows that socialism as an ideology with scientific pretensions is dead: all that is left is manner.
I'm sure that any halfway competent political philosopher could rip the assumptions of modern middle-class left-wingery apart. Why is it right to support a free market in sexual relationships but oppose free-market economics, for instance? But his criticisms would have little impact. It's like a religion: the contradictions are obvious to outsiders but don't disturb the faithful. You believe when you're in its warm embrace.
And manner is not enough. The collapse of the Left's rigor and militant core means it is vulnerable to the erosive effects of militant Islam. The Belmont Club argued in September, 2003 that:
The hollowing out of the Left -- the death of its Bolshevik core -- is one of the great unwritten stories of the late twentieth century. The decline of the cadre of professional revolutionaries at its center was simultaneously matched by the inrush from the periphery of the network of sympathizers, fellow travelers and "useful fools" which it once adopted as protective coloration. It was a classic case of the inmates taking over an asylum from which the keepers had fled. ... the freak show of autonomists, zapatistas, rage-against-the-machine cultists, transgender spokespersons, abortion rights activists, militant gay and lesbians and tattered academics that characterize today's Left. ... To experience any real militancy, today's Left wing activists must attach themselves as pathetic dogs to Islamic causes like the International Solidarity Movement. There, they can indulge their fantasy of advancing world socialism while objectively dying for Osama Bin Laden or Yasser Arafat. The circle is complete. The roles have been reversed. The heirs to moribund Bolshevism have now become the "useful fools", the protective coloration of a dynamic militant Islamism.
As Cohen puts it, "with no socialism to provide international solidarity", all that is left is "good motives of tolerance and respect for other cultures" -- even when that culture is sworn to destroy the Left itself -- like some association of morons intent on carrying out a function whose purpose no one can remember. Cohen ends on a note of hope. "My advice to my former comrades is to struggle out of your straitjackets and get off at the next station. It would be good to see you on this side of the barrier." I wouldn't hold my breath.
posted by wretchardthecat at 8/08/2005 04:58:00 AM
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"I wouldn't hold my breath."
Nor will I:
They may have little else going for them, but obduracy to all things counter to their blind cant they have in abundance.
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"the hypocrite is entirely cynical and doesn't even believe the snake-oil he or she is expounding; while the speaker of cant does have conceptual faith in what he or she says—but won't actually be practicing what he or she is preaching."
- wiki
The Bolshevik core of the Old Left provided the organizational leadership and structure, but more importantly it secured and provided the funding that an organization needs in order to operate.
The "useful idiots" like to show up at demonstrations, yak a bit, wave posters around for the cameras, and generally have a good time. However, somebody needs to secure the funds to pay for the expenses.
The role of the old USSR in funding the US Communist Party and the 60's "anti-war" movement is well documented since the declassification of the Venona documents
With the collapse of the USSR, a vacuum was created which the jihadists could take advantage of. The Golden Chain is likely not just funding Osama and the radical imams and madrassas
Papa,
And they have the advantage of a very much dumbed-down audience to work on.
Ignorance plus multicult self-hatred makes for fertile ground indeed.
...not to mention victimology squared for "minorities."
Myron Magnet's remarkable work "The 60's: the Dream and the Nightmare" describes the incredible disaster that occurred when the Civil Rights movement (motto: "We shall overcome") ran into the "any lifestyle at any cost" movement, (motto "If it feels good do it.") to yield a movement whose secret motto is "We shall overcome any obstacle to feeling good." Wretchard's post describes the much the same thing, internationally.
Also, they sleep with goats.
...and Stallions.
Italian Stallions?
yesterday i checked a young mostly cultural website of the suicide girl variety and found it dominated by directions in nyc on how to avoid or evade having your "rights" violated by having your backpack searched on the subway. this seemed so tremendously stupid to me that i almost couldnt bellieve, and wanted to comment, but they had closed it down unless you "belonged." in other words, no dissent allowed, no matter how small and removed from reality the circle jerk becomes.
i also had reason to look at the website of the band sonic youth -- i once had an exchange with the lead singer & guitarist, thurston moore, shortly after 9/11, in which i accused him of desiring to become a war-profiteer by becoming the new joan baez. thhis actually seemed to bother him, at least for a short time, and he quoted me in the ny daily news when they asked him if he was going to write anti-war songs (this before afghanistan, remember).
well, i hadnt thought about him much since, but then i listened to an old album of sonic youth's (from 1990) and liked it again, so i wondered idly what they had been up to.
"useful fools" hardly does them justice, im afraid. but this is all preaching to the choir, over and over, the u.s. is bad and war is bad and nothing whatsoever about the iraqis except as "useful victims" -- these musicans remain stooges, im afraid, which may be to be expected but still let me down.
i know: more fool me. if i liked barbra streisand i wouldn't expect her to be intelligent, just so madonna and sean penn and robert redford and my case (a much smaller demographic) sonic youth.
"youth against fascism," as they brag. they wouldnt know fascism if it -- would they, or will they, when the other shoe inevitably drops? will they grow up then? (this is a question that includes about 40% of the american people. do they have the capacity to grow up?)
miklos,
Such questions as yours haunt me from time to time. The left is now a shambling skeleton, lurching from one momentary distraction to the next, dishing out fear as its currency. That much is clear to those educated in history, and aware of the cause-and-effect nature of the world. But that aspect of the world isn't taught in public schools today (if it ever was).
The "useful idiots" like to show up at demonstrations, yak a bit, wave posters around for the cameras, and generally have a good time. However, somebody needs to secure the funds to pay for the expenses.
Papa Bear:
Naw. No one needs to secure the funds from Islamists. Mom and dad are paying the way (as they did through college), and proud as hell that self-absorbed little Johnny is trying to "make a difference".
One wonders at what point the average Lefty will wake up to his future prospects under the New Caliphate -- will it be when his girlfriend is compelled into the hijab? when his favorite rap musician is censored or silenced for lyrics that defame Islam? when the corner deli where he gets his lunch has to stop serving prosciutto?
When will he notice that his old world is being taken away from him, and the pristine new extension of the Ummah is about to be substituted for it?
Bravo Wretchard!
This stuff deserves wider exposure.
American higher ed should require the Belmont Club membership for graduation. This is what they should be studying. This would constitute an EDUCATION. I'm hopeful.
Anyone with a computer and Explorer has access to this.
Sail on Dude!
There are reasons why it's hard to leave the left--leaving the fold is not for the squeamish. It requires coming to terms with having made an error, for one thing, and that seems to be a very difficult thing for most human beings to do. Easier to rationalize, ignore evidence, and keep on keeping on.
I've written a number of posts on the subject, some based on the autobiography of David Horowitz, Radical Son. See this, this and this.
there was a documentary last week -- on the sundance channel no less -- about how underneath the hijab and veils these very attractive young women (n syria, here) wear victoria's secret lingerie underneath all the covering in order to appeal to their "master" (as so pronounced by the koran).
this reminded me of how popular bondage fantasies (see gordbooks, a publisher in seattle, for instance) used to be which featured the harem, and the idea that the young slavegirl was encased in a burkha yet underneath (while she walks down the street) plugged with dildos and clad in the most extraordinary harnesses and piercings etc.
given that the taliban enacted scenes out of the marquis de sade such as whipping a woman before a stadium filled wth 30,000 men i think these aspects of the islamofascist dream ought to be more widely publicized and examined.
60% of all internet time in pakistan is spent on pornographic sites, as i recall. let's remove the veil of humbug from the sadomasochism they espouse.
when muslim respondents to a poll in great britain said that the u.k. was immoral, what were they referring to other than sports illustrated swimsuit models, topless dancers and victoria's secret ads? let's look more openly at the islamists' propensity to rape, for one thing.
Miklos, we get some peculiar referrals from google searches at Gates of Vienna, and one of them is for "islamic porn" and related topics. Apparently there is a big market for specifically Islamic pornography. Dymphna says it often involves women wearing a veil but nothing else, but I don't know where she got that information.
There was a discussion on this topic the other week at Winds of Change.
Recently, the hot search words bringing people to Gates of Vienna have been "how to make a bomb", "make bomb jihad", and similar combinations. The number of people all over the world searching for info like this (and not finding it at Gates of Vienna, fortunately) has been astonishing and frightening.
Posts on this phenomenon are here and here.
Baron,
The Lefties are awake. They are certain that George Bush causes terrorism.
I correspond with a few dedicated avoiders-of-reality, and eventually the argument always comes down to, from their side: "Are there, or are there not, more terrorists in Iraq now than in 2003?"
So even when the imams are putting their girlfriends in burkhas, it will be Bush's fault for making the devout Islamics mad at us.
Tony: yes, I guess you are right. I've noticed that Bush is ominipotent and omnipresent as well as supremely evil and abysmally stupid, and also under the control of his sinister aides. Without his say-so no sparrow falls, nor do the stars move in their appointed courses...
the australian gang of muslim rapists evidently sometimes videotaped their exploits... when you put this together with the sales of videos beheading nick berg and daniel pearl you begin approaching a view of islamist mentality hard to face other than to see it as the enemy, as evil, and to realize that this word (evil) is not an exaggeration or a specifically christian term in the least.
Miklos, if they are not evil then we might as well erase the word "evil" from our lexicon, since it has no meaning.
Ironically, for many years the KGB was funneling money through two US citizens, brothers, for the support of CPUSA and ancillary groups.
The ironic part is that they were reporting to the Feebs and had been on the federal source lists for many years.
The CI summaries in those days made for lively reading. For example, Nor Cal CPUSA meetings would have six people attending and there would be two sources reporting. A groups of US students had contacts w/ radical groups in Mexico who had trained in North Korea. There were at least four witting or unwitting sources in the US group. The sources were being run by a graduate student who was ex MI.
W/out the federal money the CPUSA in the 60's would have collapsed.
Wretchard:
The Baron wrote a good piece on Enoch Powell's "Rivers of Blood" speech from 1968, the one for which he was villified. Probably still is...
You will find it interesting reading, as in this amazing prediction from Powell:
Now we are seeing the growth of positive forces acting against integration, of vested interests in the preservation and sharpening of racial and religious differences, with a view to the exercise of actual domination, first over fellow-immigrants and then over the rest of the population.
Preventable Evils
Thirty years later and the Left, more hollowed out than ever, limps along only because it has maintained a death grip on the role of gatekeeper. That role is about to go the way of buggy whip manufacturers.
~D
Cohen and others of the Jewish Left are running up against Islamic reality. All the post Commie groups they transitioned to and have major, even dominant influence with - feminists, deconstructionists, ACLU, People for the American Way, Hollywood culturemeisters, the Soros Group, the Chomskyites, N Korean favoring Socialist Workers Party and Gay Agenda groups all have views inamicable with Islam.
Yet Jewish activists on the Left are almost compelled to tap into Islamist vibrancy and energy - because they too hate America.
But it's tough because Lefties like Cohen know that there is no future in a long-term alliance with Islamists. The feminists would have to agree to subordinate themselves somewhat to men to accomodate Islam, accept beatings as their due for lipping off and undermining the man's authority over the family. The gays would have to be more discrete. The ACLU would have to abandon it's own perverted defense of the Constitution (which exempts the 2nd, 9th, and 10th Amendments, twists the 1st into Christian-bashing license, and sees emenations and penumbras of what they want that bypasses democracy everywhere).
Continental Lefties, which don't have a large Jewish infrastuctural element but worship Derrida, Marcuse, Chomsky, Marx, Zinn and other prominent Leftist Jewish thinkers - also have to confront the fact that they too have no future under intolerant Islam..
Tony,
"Are there or are there not more terrorists in Iraq now than in 2003?"
That's an important question. What I find interesting is that my leftist friends might ask it, but really have no interest in an answer. Moreover, they don't have the habits of mind that might lead to an answer.
For example, how should "terrorist be defined? Do we have an accurate 2003 census of said terrorists? A 2005 census? Of course we do not. It's a foregone conclusion in search of data.
There really can be no rational discourse with those who won't think. Note, I said won't and not can't. Some of my lefty friends are brilliant, deluded but brilliant.
when wretchard mentions the "religious" aspect in leftist belief, it's good to keep in mind the utopian impulse which has been so formative in the american frame of mind. in the 1820s, 1840s, 1870s, 1920s and late 1960s early 70s all kinds of citizens fled ordinary banal life for communes and various idealist movements and cults, ranging from new brook farm to robert owen's new harmony to alphadephia or whatever, generally short-lived experiments which might feature socalled "free love" or nondoctrinaire socialism, nudism or the taking of hallucinogenic drugs.
it's happened over and over again, and psychologically it's possible that people still yearn for something like this, because america has always held the promise of novelty, of "the new" (in a way perhaps impossible in europe with its history stamped on every square inch of land) and the illusion that if everyone starts over and simply shares and means well a new world is within reach.
this may be what much of the nostalgia for the "60s" has come to represent, not only for the young.
"thought" or rationality may be little involved. what is paramount is what one FEELS. and much of the prevailing culture reinforces this as an approach which is essentially sound.
history means nothing, history is "bunk" (as henry ford said). no precedent is relevant, in other words.
this attitude (and attitude is all it is) lies behind a great deal of what is often lumped together as postmodernism (and its discontents).
On a general level, resistance to change is related to our human propensity to surround ourselves with a safety cushion and push away unpleasant realities. This requires a mental state to match, in which we justify ourselves, the engine of which is a belief in a utopia. The unpleasant realities are misdiagnosed in the pushing, allowing the dream to continue. I offer this explanation of the human condition by way of anecdote:
On the radio this morning (I believe it was NPR) the reporter announced that, per capita, Americans are in deep debt, an astounding figure though I don't recall it, something like 150% of yearly income. The reporter then speculated why this is happening, and offered that perhaps the dollar isn't worth as much as it once was. As he began his analysis of the relevant data I switched off the radio. My first thought was that we are obviously spending more than we make. Why? We are habituated to our comfort, mental and physical, and once established, seek to maintain it. The price is next to irrelevant; we pay for it. If we don't have the funds for it, we charge it. We fill up the car, run the a/c, purchase the clothes, filter out news that doesn't fit our outlook, and allow this set of desires to be steered by marketing and media. When we are faced with a fear that manages to sink into our consciousness, this is a most unpleasant experience, and we seek to find others to blame for our discomfort. The dream must continue.
The country's movement away from spiritual values of sacrifice, thrift, to consumerism and materialism exacerbates the problem. (Christ on the cross allows the sleeper to awake (I am not saying all "true" Christians are conservatives)).
money seems (to many) more and more abstract, less and less consequential or real.
Few Leftists awake till they have been mugged by reality. Orwell did but he saw his friends executed for deviating from Marxist holy writ. Most Leftists won't awake till they are victims of Marxism holy writ.
Or, in this case, Islamic holy writ. Written in their blood.
The classic quote, "...like some association of morons intent on carrying out a function whose purpose no one can remember."
And that is exactly what it is. Because what is Left buys the image, without the substance. I look around the city where I live and see 99% percent Leftist by default. But most would be hard pressed to articulate a single principle, much less a consistent philosophical position.
However, I would argue that there is a violent core congealing as better people like Mr. Cohen peel away. What is being Left is a maniacal body of nonsensical hooligans devoid of purpose and fermented on self-loathing. I submitted in a previous post of my own, what is being Left abandoned rational philosophy as the first rite of their descent from the pinnacle of human hegemony. With an objective standard eliminated, next came morals, then logic, science, art, religion, being, identity, and finally decency. With no foundation of individual respect, force and violence remain as the single mechanism of human interaction. Cooperation is nothing more than a surrender to primal fear in the face of power ... in the absense of a conscious and resolute will to exist. And that ultimately is the last thing to be surrendered. Because what is being Left devoured its soul when it embraced the self-loathing prerequisite of nihilism.
Hence what is being Left concentrates its sole damnation on its own Right hand for daring to pull Man back to his feet to face the Devil that pushed him down.
miklos rosza said...
money seems (to many) more and more abstract, less and less consequential or real.
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and yet we live more and more in a cash economy:ie: when was the last time you grew anything you ate, made anything you wear etc.--
careful about vanities
That's some pretty strong--and true--imagery, there, Mr. Atos. You must've read Milton in your formative years. It is scary to see so many people simultaneously without any desire to recognize their own archetype, yet so full of desire to act out the one which must surely be, in time, the most miserable of all.
atos
"What is being Left.."
Facinating phraseology. Deserves to be part of the ethos. Write the book. Subtitled: Leftovers -
the thrashings of the New Reaction.
Old Dad said:
I correspond with a few dedicated avoiders-of-reality, and eventually the argument always comes down to, from their side: "Are there, or are there not, more terrorists in Iraq now than in 2003?"
For once, you can use the media's terminology in your favor in this instance. You can simply respond that "according to the news, they're insurgents".
Often, it seems they are insurgents when such a description makes the current administration look bad, and terrorists when that particular moniker makes the administration look bad. Might as well throw the words of the left back in their face.
yashmak
Most of the Opfor in Iraq are Insurgents. The vast majority ARE Iraqis that believe, rightfully so, that they are going to be given their "fair share" of the new Iraq.
It is a terrible thing, when you are used to the Gravy Train to be allocated to the coal car on an diesel locomotive.
I've been reading up on Dark Ages history. As you might expect, it is rather depressing.
Consider the development of European serfdom: as Rome weakened, citizens sought security by selling their property or even themselves to stronger landowners or military men who could offer them protection (in exchange for service) against the growing anarchy. As the "lords" grew stronger and battled each other, this movement accelerated, and Roman government revenues and manpower declined.
Civilization thus decayed because our ancestors chose the short-term security offerred by supporting the local bully - "Roman" or invader - rather than risk their own necks to remain free men. It was a false choice -- death and destruction came anyway, but it was slower and longer-lasting than the defeats suffered by the Roman Republic.
The modern-day Left is behaving the same way too many Europeans behaved 1500 years ago. They would have us "kiss up" to the invader -- be they Soviet Communists or Islamic militants. This, they think, is a good strategy for survival.
The Left refuses to think just how much sufferring will ensue by following such a choice. Islamic militants might accept a supine Europe where the differential birth rate gives them hope of eventual Muslim domination, but they will never accept even a Muslim America, for as the strongest Muslim state, America would have the automatic right - that's how it works in practice - to lead Islam itself.
No, the Islamists want us quite, quite, dead. Why, then, should anyone listen to the Left? Why should the Left continue to believe in itself?
Miklos and Charles,
Once a person has advanced beyond the needs of subsistence, money changes from a method of barter to a measure of prestige (which tends to guarantee more business, since you are a winner). It becomes a measure of your manhood, whether you are somebody that others would notice and wish to be like. Hence the Sunni's reluctance to be shamed, lose their place of prominence, power, perks. After all, it's their right, and the Sunni's aren't even real muslims, anyway.
"money seems (to many) more and more abstract, less and less consequential or real", that is, money is a function of whether or not you are somebody, not a fixed measure of what you can afford to purchase. Witness the squandered fortunes of a Mike Tyson, or any number of lottery winners, or the budgetary hemmoraging of the House of Saud. I wonder whether our economy is dependent upon fostering this need to consume, which, like the over-eater, leaves one feeling empty and overwhelmed. Yet the liberals haven't succeeded in policies that can foster or allow the generation of wealth.
Contra the notion that money is the root of all evil, look at socialist France, where they have other methods of defining prestige when wages are fixed. It doesn't matter what the object of prestige, so long as all agree upon it. A few years ago I noticed an article about a proposed change in a French civil service that had nothing to do with wages, that caused a big row. Sorry for no specifics.
As is widely known, the latin Radix omnium
malorum est cupiditas lists cupidity or avarice as the source of all evil, not money per se. The wakeup call allows the recognition that the problem lies within ourselves.
I measure my own (unknown) position on the scale of virtue against the phrase "there but for the grace of God go I". It's so easy to have virtue when there is nothing at stake (as in Conrad's Lord Jim below deck during the storm), and it's so easy to have a Liberal point of view so long as your comfortable center is not impinged upon.
Old dad,
Our Leftists buddies won't learn, they don't want to learn. Willful ignorance. I just don't know why otherwise bright people would be this way, just not want to know what's really happening, to the best of their ability. I mean, isn't that the universal goal - to know the truth?
Re "no terrorists in Iraq before Bush invaded" - I point them to the 98 indictment against bin Laden in NY, filed by the dear Clinton Admin. It mentions collaboration with Saddam. - no response, none -
How 'bout the cool unilateral bombing of the "chemical factory" in Sudan, where OBL is in business with Iraq on nerve gas production? That was 98, too, before "Bush Lied!" about WMD's and terrorists. - no response, none -
Just to get a response, send them the three Joscelyn articles in Weekly Standard, detailing all the known terrorist activity in Iraq over past cupla decades.
Finally! A response: "That rag is owned by Richard Mellon Sciafe!" It's their excuse to not read the articles, maintaining willful ignorance.
But, the article constantly uses proof sources of liberal godhood: Clinton, Richard Clarke, 9/11 Commission, NYT. - no response -
To tack back toward Wretchard's topic - my favorite super-lib "understanding" bit was when a feminist sent me that glowing piece about how Muslim women LOVE the veil and burkha, keeps all the dust and flies out, gives them privacy, yadda."
They just don't wanna know nuthin.
Which is understandable, because they already know everything that it is proper to know. Further thought about Politically Correct / Religious laws would be just wrong. Thinking about such things is probably just as bad as smoking within 100 yards of other people's lungs.
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(Baron: the stars will move in their appointed courses as long as the Halliburton contract to move them is renewed.)
Erico -- there was a character in one of Elmore Leonard's novels who, when asked why he pursued money so avidly (he was already rich), replied, "Money is a way of keeping score."
So what's left of the left?
A bunch of reactionary wannabes, clinging to the dead zombie that is socialism.
Sol2
It seems the other descendents of our European forebears haven't learned what us rude Yanks have known for three centuries - Live free, or die.
World History Lesson:
The two most important events in all of history were the invention of
beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to
get man to the beer. These were the foundations of modern
civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of
humanity into two distinct subgroups: Liberals and Conservatives.
Once beer was discovered it required grain, and that was the beginning
of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can
were invented yet, so our early human ancestors just stayed close
to the brewery. That's how villages were formed.
Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to BBQ at night
while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known
as "the Conservative movement".
Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live
off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly BBQ's and
doing the sewing, weaving and hair dressing. This was the beginning of
"the Liberal movement." Some of these liberal men eventually
evolved into women. The rest became known as 'girleymen'.
Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of
cats, the trade union, class action lawsuits, the invention of group
therapy & group hugs and the concept of democratic voting to decide
how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided.
Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the
largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant.
Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.
Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer
white wine or imported bottled water.
They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu and French
food are standard liberal fare.
Another interesting revolutionary side note: most of their
women have higher testosterone levels than their men.
Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, hairdressers,
dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals.
Liberals invented baseball's designated hitter rule because it
wasn't "fair" to make the pitcher also bat.
Conservatives drink domestic beer and eat red meat & potatoes.
Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks,
construction workers, medical doctors, police officers,
corporate executives, soldiers, self-employed, athletes & generally
anyone who works productively outside government. Conservatives who
own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for
a living.
Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to "govern" the
producers and decide what to do with the production. They also like to
take money away from successful people and give it to the
failures. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than
Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when
conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild
West was tame & created a business of trying to get MORE for nothing.
Thus ends today's lesson in world history.
Anybudee,
Live free or die.
That's what I tell my kids: "America is mean. The World will grind you down and take everything away from you, if you just sit there and do nothing."
In America, "Live Free" = = earn a living, any living you choose = but unfortunately for the current and future generations, we have de-emphasized the "OR DIE" side of the equation.
Half our population acts like their Dad is going to take care of all those annoying stories on TV.
Mr Atos,
"With an objective standard eliminated, next came morals, then logic, science, art, religion, being, identity, and finally decency. With no foundation of individual respect, force and violence remain as the single mechanism of human interaction."
What you are describimg is Gramsciam Marxism.Antonio Gramsci believed that Communism through conventional revolutionary means was impossible a nd that the way forward was to undermine the institutions that underpinned society.The "Long March threough the Institutions" began decades ago,burrowing away like termites at the fabric of wester civilisatio,unfortunately the cretins did not factor in the barbarians.
I took quite a beating when I commented on
“ Now I lay me down to sleep”
When I said,
“ Religion is foolish”
Please allow me to rephrase.
Religion (in general) is foolish.
This is evident, as it keeps rearing its vicious head.
http://freedomsculptors.blogspot.com/
Interestingly, George Galloway prove Wretchard's analysis and understands the connection between the Left and Islam.
Good history lesson Sam.It would be hilarious if it wasn't so close to the truth.The left is largely the province of emasculated men these days and bitter women.Of course there are the dreamy children who like all dreamy children play modern versions of John Lennon's "Imagine"over and over again while they wax eloquently about building a better world.Grey headed poli-sci profs with pony tails are still trying to pick up the naive co-eds.They don't need to worry about the viagra they need nowadays making them blind because they've been blind since the summer of love.
Meanwhile other young men who've grown up fast are bringing a world of hurt to the fruit of Islam.
Peter...what did you think of your PM's speech the other day? He sure didn't sound much like a Liberal. Reckon there's hope for the old boy?
Buddy,
I'll believe it when I see it,he is one of the Gramscian cretins who got us into this.
BTW The treason ploy is just another eye catching innitiative,incitement to murder would had got more sent down,still Bakri has buggered off,I hope he didn't leave his dependents for us to feed.
Peter,
You might want to give some credit to the Fabian Society. I think Gramsci borrowed a bit from them. And let it never go unremarked that the primary fool was Hegel with his historicism. The PC'ers really couldn't have gotten to where they've arrived without his initial idiocy.
Let us also dishonor John Dewey who was among the first to institute Fabian/Gramscian methodology in the United States in his pursuit of the destruction of the academy.
Rick,
I rember all those wonderful wonderful people without whom none of this would have been possible.A memorial in the form af a rank and dank slough of despair should be prepared.Uses optional
Osama bin Laden Looks Like Heading for Iraq:
Coded electronic signals bandied in recent days among al Qaeda Middle Eastern elements across secret Internet sites all carry the same message: the supreme leader, Osama bin Laden, has come out of hiding in Afghanistan and set out, or is about to set out, for Iraq. This is the sense gained from this correspondence by DEBKAfile’s exclusive counter-terror sources.
If he does indeed make it to Iraq, the public airing of his presence in the Land of the Two Rivers, would have a radical impact on the nature of the Iraq conflict. No longer a mere guerrilla campaign, it would escalate to a full-scale fight to the finish against al Qaeda in Iraq, analogous to the all-out hostilities in Afghanistan.
Bin Laden’s organization has begun referring to the Iraq conflict in these ultimate terms.
http://www.debkafile.org/article.php?aid=1068
I've been collecting these confessional essays on my desktop since 9/11. His left me unimpressed. No passion, and little originality. I would imagine that he's read a bit of Thomas Friedman and Christopher Hitchins and wants to stake out some territory of his own.
I suspect as Iraq marches towards a conclusion these confessionals will be more insightful and relevant.
It seems the other descendents of our European forebears haven't learned what us rude Yanks have known for three centuries
Our forebears self-selected themselves out of the European master-slave relationship and set up relations among themselves as free men in America. Most Europeans are descended from those who decided to remain as serfs or subjects.
So when democracy came, they generally thought of it as (1) a way to turnabout the master-slave relationship, or (2) a way to get more of the pie, and kick back in ease.
The French Revolution and Communism are examples of #1. Immigration without assimilation is an example of #2. It is the same mistake the Romans made in the waning days of their Empire: they invited the poor but fast-breeding barbarians in to provide cheap agricultural goods and labor, but instead of the Romans civilizing the barbarians, these immigrants barbarized the Romans. [paraphrased from Durant]
I spent the weekend reviewing a bunch of leftist websites. Strange; not one of them could offer any kind of coherent response to Islamic Terror. It was all Bush/America bashing - all the time. That Bush even acted is seen as a huge affront to their vanity. What is it? - something feeble and fragile about the left I can't name but I think that Wretchard is closing in on.
Anyhow, there are even a few of us here in Seattle (who have left the left).
Such a rare species our weekly lefty rag called the Seattle Weekly profiled a few of us here:
http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0524/050615_news_republicans.php
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Good luck up there, Das. The anti-idiotarian movement sure needs a few west coast cells!
Things like this--Arab women in freeing lands flocking into the stock markets and becoming investing capitalists in their own neighborhoods--must be driving bin Laden crazy. Crazier.
Peter & Rick,
I would add Foucault as a pivotal figure for the contemporary Left, for his recognition that the old utopian ideals of socialist economics were worn out. He replaced them with a nihilistic embrace of the Dionysian, while intensifying the Left's disdain for "petit bourgeois" values like sexual fidelity, law and order, and sanity. The exact antithesis of Edmund Burke, he considered the internalized norms of Western Civilization to be more tyrannical than any governmental force. As I describe in these posts, this fundamental error led to his disastrous embrace of the Khomeini revolution (and ultimately to his death of AIDS). His motto, like the Islamofascists, could be easily summarized: Choose death.
Buddy, Amen - Mr. Atos - Preach it brother!
In programming (especially in Unix/Linux) a "zombie" is a bit of code still alive in the CPU, not taking many (if any) cycles, but which has lost its calling code, and its ability to call any other code... It'll "run" uselessly until the next soft-reboot.
Today's left is a LOT like a ZOMBIE. (Or a zealot, one who has redoubled efforts after losing sight of the goal!)
This may be true of the US or Europe. But in the UK the core of the Left was never the Bolsheviks. It was (and is) the Labour Party. An entirely different tradition.
Reminds me of a story (possibly apocryphal):
Lenin said, of the then Labour Party leader Henderson "we shall support him as a rope supports a hanged man."
Upon hearing of which a Labour Union Leader commented: "The Labour Party will p**s on your grave, you Bolshevik b*st**d."
Granted, Labour, as with all left movements, has been vulnerable to and periodically insufficiently vigilant against, the "entryists" of the hard left; and still more, in recent decades, the limp middle-class "progressives" and exponents of goodthink.
But there is still some of the old hard core there.
Saddam's very own party.
Nick Cohen
My post from "Out on Bail:"
D-Day for British politics - Respect, the alliance between the Muslim Association of Britain and the Socialist Workers Party, shows how ugly the far left in Britain has become, writes Nick Cohen
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- no one has found it worth noting that, for the first time since the Enlightenment, a section of the left is allied with religious fanaticism and, for the first time since the Hitler-Stalin pact, a section of the left has gone soft on fascism.
Carridine,
It is GNU/LINUX.
As in Richard Stallman's original code.
Linux is just the Kernel.
I see your point though.
I left out the date on Nick Cohen's article:
7th June 2004
Actually, in Unix, a "zombie" is a process trying to die but waiting for some other process to get around to looking at its "exit code" that is, its reason for dying. To paraphrase a movie line: "It's merely dead but not yet most sincerely dead." This is an excellent analog for the Left, already dead but nobody has yet noticed.
Doug,
A couple of points,Oswald mosely the British Fascist leader was a former Labour MP.
The Muslim Association of Britain has its roots in the Muslim Brotherhood,the founders of the shower of shit and derision currently raining upon our undeserving heads.
Do you think we're all over-headshrinking the left? It's possible that underneath their convictions, or rather, their noises, they 're nothing but truly inept opportunists, always betting on the wrong horse. Wrong camel in this case, I guess.
Just a thought. PS: Absolutely love this blog.
There is a Large International QUEER MUSLIM LIBERAL Conspiracy:
The International Queer/Muslim Conspiracy
By George M Weinert V
Suddenly, today, Sunday, December 19, 2004, we are ONCE MORE BOMBARDED WITH The issue of GAY MARRIAGE and HUNDREDS OF PHOTOS OF GAYS in MA (but this time with clothes)
Is this just a coincidence, or was this ALL PLANNED BY THE GAY LIBERAL NEWS MEDIA?
Not at all - this has been part of the
THE INTERNATIONAL QUEER/MUSLIM CONSPIRACY:
* MUSLIMS SEEK WORLD DOMINANCE
* QUEERS SEEK WORLD DOMINANCE!
* THE MUSLIMS AND THE QUEERS HAVE FORMED AN EVIL ALLIANCE TO DRAG THE ENTIRE WORLD INTO THEIR PIG STY!
Though they keep it well hidden, there are tens ot millions of MUSLIM QUEERS:
Queer Jihad - About Queer Jihad
Updated January 10, 2003
In the name of Allah, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful!
About Queer Jihad
What is Queer Jihad?
Queer Jihad is the queer Muslim struggle for acceptance: first, the struggle to accept ourselves as being exactly the way Allah has created us to be; and secondly, the struggle for understanding among Muslims in general.
'Jihad' is a misunderstood word: it means to struggle, to endeavor.
Traditionally, the first and most important jihad is the struggle with one's self, one's nafs, one's selfish desires, the struggle to do good, to be good, to put into practice the beliefs and values we claim to possess.
'Queer jihad' is our own struggle with sexuality, with accepting it and dealing with it, and moving on, but it is also an endeavor to provide knowledge and foster understanding within the larger community.
Queer Jihad is not a formal organisation: it's an idea. We have no mosques; we are not a movement; we request no donations, neither do we accept them. We are not funded by any government or organisation.
We are interested in the spiritual lives of gay and lesbian Muslims, and other queer Muslims. We are interested in encouraging queer people to remain true to their Creator, to grapple with the issues, to come to terms with who they are in whatever manner and fashion they are capable of doing
so.
The issue of Islam and homosexuality is complicated and there are no easy answers. If we can begin to talk about ourselves and share our experiences and ways of coping, we will have made a start in the right direction.
Should gay and lesbian Muslims leave Islam? No, they should not. They should not let ignorance and homophobia drive them away from their adherence to Allah. We must learn to embrace what Allah has decreed for us, accept it, be at peace with it -- and move on.
Where can I get more information about Islam and homosexuality? Please see our Essays & Articles section for a wide variety of reading materials. See also the Bibliography for selected books, especially
titles like 'Islamic Homosexualities'. See also our Links page for a listing of many sources available online, including a variety of clubs and mailing lists.
________________________________________________________________________________________________
Material originally copyrighted in 2001 by Sulayman X, amended in 2003 by Faris Malik Ý
http://queerjihad.com
THE MUSLIMS ARE QUEERS!
Why BLOW YOURSELF UP WHEN YOU CAN BLOW EACH OTHER?
QUEERJIHAD!
In Saudi Arabia more than half the men admit THEY ARE HOMOS!
We have heard a lot in the last few years about "Gay Rights" - hmm.....
What is gay? My handy "Captain Billy's Whizbag" Dictionary defines "Gay" as:
* Cheerful
* Happy
* Convivial
* Frolicsome
* Joyful
* Joyous
* Jovial
* Jolly
* Merry
* Lively
* Blithe
(and there are more) for the definition of "Gay" that has been common for over 1,000 years in Western societies. IT SAYS NOTHING ABOUT SEXUAL PRACTICES OR PREFERENCES.
Linguistically speaking homosexuals have traditionally been defined as " queer" which is defined as:
* Odd
* Quaint
* Curious
* Eccentric
* Freakish
* Peculiar
* Singular
What makes a person "Gay"?
The preference for HOMOSEXUAL SEX (sex with a member of your own gender) is considered the most common definition: HOMOSEXUAL Is defined as:
* Lesbian
* Man-Sex (the literal definition)
What do "Gay" people do then?
* For men - they TAKE ANOTHER MAN'S PENIS INTO THEIR MOUTHS UNTIL ORGASM IS ACHIEVED OR ALLOW ANOTHER MAN TO PUT HIS PENIS INTO THEIR ANUS (to simulate a woman) And allow their "Lover" to do the same to them. SODOMY Is the Norm for Homosexuals.
* For women - They PERFORM MUTUAL ORAL SEX ON EACH OTHER OR STRAP ON MECHANICAL PENISES TO SIMULATE HETEREOSEXUAL SEX. Oral Sex and Mechanical Sex Toys are the norm for Lesbians.
(I am sorry if some find this "Offensive" - I have used only common medical terms and do not intend to 'offend" - it is the actions that are offensive but they are reality)
THEY ARE POSSESSED by SATAN!
Research will also reveal that "Gay" people are TEN TIMES MORE LIKELY to find other "Gay" sex partners when seeking 'casual sex' so our "Gay" people can also be assumed to have ravenous sexual appetites as well. Correspondingly we may further assume that the "Gay" Person is:
* Promiscuous
* Mixed
* Confused
* Garbled
* Intermingled
* Intermixed
* Jumbled
(at least according to Captain Billy)
THE QUEER MUSLIMS ARE DEVILS on this EARTH!
Our Lord warned us about these Perverse Demons nearly 2,000 years ago as He wrote:
"God gave them up to uncleanness (the Lord abandoned the Homosexuals), in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies amongst themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for a lie (today the LIES of the GAYS). And worshipped and served the creature (The Devil) rather than their creator.
For this reason God gave them up to their vile passions. (God gave up on the homosexuals and abandoned to eternal punishment in Hell). The men burned in their lust for one another, men laying with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of the error which is their due. (the Gays are doomed to a life of madness and disease followed by an eternity in Hades)
They did not like to retain God in their knowledge, so He gave them over to a debased mind (here, God himself says that Homosexuals are debased) to do these things which are not fitting (For human beings), being filled with sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness, full of envy (Of normal and God fearing peopld), murder, strife, deceit, evil mindedness, they are worshipers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of Evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful who, knowing the righteous judgement of God, that those who practice such things deserve Death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.
Therefore, they are not to be excused. (Romans 1:24-31)
Our Lord himself has pronounced his ETERNAL DAMNATION on the EVIL MUSLIM and QUEER so how would YOU like to be described if you were such a demented sinner?
Obviously if you are engaging in such SEXUAL PRACTICES you want people to think of you as:
* Cheerful
* Happy
* Convivial
* Frolicsome
* Joyful
* Joyous
* Jovial
* Jolly
* Merry
* Lively
* Blithe
But not:
* Promiscuous
* Mixed
* Confused
* Garbled
* Intermingled
* Intermixed
* Jumbled
If you do keep INSISTING AND HOLLERING ABOUT IT LONG ENOUGH FOLKS WILL FORGET YOU ARE:
* Odd
* Quaint
* Curious
* Eccentric
* Freakish
* Peculiar
* Singular
* Queer
And come to think of them only as:
* Cheerful
* Happy
* Convivial
* Frolicsome
* Joyful
* Joyous
* Jovial
* Jolly
* Merry
* Lively
* Blithe
* Gay
When in reality they are merely:
* Lesbian
* Man-Sex (the literal definition)
Fascinating way to mask your deviation no? Yes it is.
But today we also have "HomoPhobia" (which is supposed to be "fear of" or "hostility towards" Gay people - I guess)
Hmm..let's see:
Homo (Erectus - "man who walks erect" - NOT A MAN WITH AN ERECTION!) is defined as:
* Primate
* Ape
* Ape-like
* Anthropoid
* Monkeylike
* Simian
* Humanoid
Now these descriptive words are also not too flattering but this is what the Dictionary tell us, boys and girls.
"Phobic" hmm..let's see - back to Captain Billy's:
Phobia is defined as:
* Fear
* Apprehension
* Dread
* Dismay
* Fright
* Horror
* Panic
Thus we may surmise that "HomoPhobia" is FEAR OF HUMANOIDS!
This would be a 'fear' well founded if such were the case but we can discern that the "Gay" Community is admitting by their own rhetoric that their HOMOSEXUAL ACTS are NOT CONSIDERED HUMAN - at least not in normal societies( of humans that is). If, however we define "Homophobia" as FEAR OF APE-LIKE CREATURES things seem a bit more reasonable.
The "Gay" Community will hypothesize, however that HOMOSEXUALITY IS A NATURALLY OCCURRING OCCURRENCE: this is true - AMONGST DOGS AND APES!
If you CONSIDER YOURSELF IN THAT CLASS OF BEING THAT IS YOUR DECISION AND YOUR RIGHT!
QUEERS AND THE MUSLIMS ARE NOT HUMAN - THEY ARE EVIL DEMONS!
THESE ARE DEVILS!
But is this not "Intolerant"? Not according to the Judgement of Our Lord so - Let's be honest boys and girls:
1) MOST FOLKS COULD CARE LESS ABOUT YOUR SEX LIFE! (save for those who are simply voyeuristic or just plain weird)
2) What folks DO CARE ABOUT (in the USA in particular) is HAVING MORALITY DEFINED FOR THEM (though in this instance it is 'Re-defined') especially by a group of DEBASED HOMOSEXUALS WHO ARE ALREADY DAMNED!
Now in the 1960's we underwent a SOCIAL REVOLUTION on this very issue - and we won. The end result was that THE INDIVIDUAL won the right to DECIDE WHAT IS AND IS NOT "NORMAL" or "Socially Acceptable" (Within the law and reasonable bounds of course) and, to a lesser extent what is "RIGHT". But then, what is "Right" for you may not be(and probably is not) "Right" for me and vice versa ad nauseum.
Unfortunately, this had the unanticipated effect of "moral relativism" - i.e. since ABSOLUTE VALUES were not to be defined Individually ALL VALUES ARE THEREFORE EQUAL. Coupled with a trend which gained great momentum in Educational Theories of the time known as "PostModernism" (whose outstanding characteristic is iconoclastic thinking although I still have been unable to discern it's more profound ontological mysteries) this led us into the "ANYTHING GOES" school of moral philosophy.
BUT NOT ALL AMERICANS AGREE! AND THIS IS ALSO THEIR RIGHT!
But the "militant" or "Extreme" faction of the "Gay Rights" movement goes far beyond this: they WANT TO LEGISLATE THEIR "Normalcy" status INTO OUR LAWS! Well, all we can say is,
SORRY CHARLIE!
THE QUEERS & GAY MUSLIMS ARE PERVERTED AND PROMISCUOUS PIGS WHO HAVE BEEN DAMNED TO HELL BY GOD!
But today we find that the INTERNATIONAL HOMOSEXUAL CONSPIRACY has aligned with the HOMOSEXUAL TERRORISTS as well as HOMOSEXUALS WORLDWIDE in an -
Insidious and far reaching GLOBAL QUEER/MUSLIM TERRORIST CONSPIRACY!
The Wahhabi (Salafi) Muslims of Saudi Arabia do not only wish to SPREAD THEIR NARROW AND TWISTED VERSION OF "ISLAM" alone -THEY ALSO WANT TO SEE THAT THE HOMOSEXUALITY THAT IS COMMON AMONGST ARAB/MUSLIM MEN WORLD WIDE AS WELL!!
(see http://arabnews.com for information on Homosexuality in Saudi Arabia)
The Shi'a "Ayatollahs" of Iran ALSO WISH TO ADVANCE THEIR SEXUAL PERVERSION AND INCLUDE SEX WITH BEASTS TO BOOT (see the writings of Khomeini!
The "Donnabi" version of "Islam" that is 'taught' in the "Islamic Colleges" of Pakistan approves of and PRACTICES HOMOSEXUAL PEDOPHELIA! (this is also common in the "Trashcanistan" states to the North - the "Warlords" we have come to know as the "Northern Alliance" have made adolescent boys their HOMOSEXUAL CONCUBINES for centuries as well - it is an 'open secret' in this part of the world - visit bbenws.com and search for "Pedophiles in Pakistan")
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You are invited to RESEARCH AND VERIFY THE ABOVE FACTS CONCERNING THESE GROUPS = PLEASE DO SO! (yes I understand this is not "politically correct" but the erudite scholar will soon find the truth)
So the "Terrorists" are ALSO HOMOSEXUALS with a radical philosophical agenda - TO UNDERMINE THE VERY MORAL FOUNDATION OF THE USA - and they have been JOINED BY THE "Gay Rights" advocates.
And the MUSLIMS ARE QUEERS and even have QUEERS IN THEIR QUEER KORAN:
Queer Jihad in the Holy Qur'ran and Hadith
If you've even wondered why there are SO MANY QUEER MUSLIMS, read on:
Queer Sexuality and Identity in the Qur'an and Hadith
by Faris Malik
The Qur'an generally scorns "approaching males in lust", as well as the
castration of males, as the sin of the people of Lot (Qur'an 7:81, 26:165-166,
27:55, 29:28-29).
7:81: "Indeed you approach males in lust excluding women..."
Arabic: "Innakum lata'toona ar-rijaala shahwatan min doon in-nisaa'i."
26:165-166: "You approach the males of the worlds and forsake those whom your Lord has created for you for your mates."
Arabic: "Ata'toona adh-dhukraana min al-'aalameena, wa tadharoona ma khalaqa lakum Rabbukum min azwaajikum."
27:55: "Will you indeed approach males in lust excluding women?"
Arabic: "A 'innakum lata'toona ar-rijaala shahwatan min doon in-nisaa'i?"
29:28-29 "Most surely you are guilty of an indecency which none of the nations has ever done before you; What! do you come unto the males and cut the passageways [i.e. vas deferens and/or urethra] and do so in your private clubs?"
Arabic: "Innakum lata'toona al-faahishata ma sabaqakum biha min ahadin mina al-'aalameena. Innakum lata'toona ar-rijaala wa taqta'oona as-sabeela wa ta'toona fee naadikumu?"
But the Qur'an does not prohibit using, as passive sex partners, the ancient category of men who by nature lacked desire for women, since such men were not considered "male" as a result of their lack of arousal for women. This kind of man is often known as "gay" in modern times, but in the ancient world he was identified as an anatomically whole "natural eunuch." Although the Qur'an never
uses the word eunuch [khasiyy], the hadith and the books of the legal scholars do. Furthermore, the Qur'an recognizes that some men are "without the defining skill of males" (24:31: "ghair oolaa il-irbati min ar-rijaali") and so, as domestic servants, are allowed to see women naked. This is a reference to natural eunuchs, i.e. gay men.
A person had to be indifferent to women's bodies in order to assume the role as a servant in women's private space. In one case, a servant who had been assumed to be indifferent to women due to his being an "effeminate" [mukhannath] was evicted by the Prophet because he unexpectedly demonstrated a lascivious attitude toward a woman:
Bukhari, Authentic Traditions, Book of Marriage, Chapter 114 (162) What is forbidden concerning the entering upon the wife by those imitating women. [It was narrated] of Umm Salama that the Prophet, peace be upon him, was at her house, and in the house there was an effeminate [mukhannath], and the effeminate said to the brother of Umm Salama, Abdullah bin Abi Umayya: If God makes you all conquer Ta'if tomorrow, I suggest to you the daughter of Ghailan, for surely she approaches with four and turns her back with eight [?]. Then the Prophet, peace be upon him, said: This one shall not enter upon
you (pl.).
Muslim, Collection of Authentic Traditions, Book of Greetings, Chapter 912 (note: as translated into English by 'Abdul Hamid Siddiqi, who misleadingly uses the word eunuch as the translation for mukhannath. It is precisely because he was not a eunuch that he got into trouble!): (5415) Umm Salama reported that she had a eunuch [mukhannath] (as a slave) in her house. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) was once in the house that he (the eunuch) said to the brother of Umm Salama: 'Abdullah b. Abu Umayya, if Allah grants you victory in Ta'if on the next day, I will show you the daughter of Ghailan, for she has four folds (upon her body) on the front side of her stomach and eight folds on the back. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) heard this and he said: Such (people) should not visit you.
(5416) 'A'isha reported that a eunuch [mukhannath] used to come to the wives of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and they did not find anything objectionable in his visit, considering him to be a male without any sexual desire [fakaanoo ya'doonahu min ghair oolaa il-irbah]. Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) one day came as he was sitting with some of his wives and he was busy in describing the bodily characteristics of a lady and saying: As she comes in front four folds appear on her front side and as she turns her back eight folds apear on the back side. Thereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: I see that he knows these things; do not, therefore, allow him to enter. She ('A'isha) said: Then they began to observe veil from him.
Note that in 'A'isha's telling of the story, she states that the women allowed him into their private rooms because they assumed he "lacked the defining skill"
(the translator added the word male and put "considering him to be a male without any sexual desire," but the Arabic says only that they "deemed him to lack the defining skill"). 'A'isha actually quotes the Qur'anic verse about men who "lack the defining skill of males," demonstrating that his presence in the women's space would have been proper according to the Qur'an if only he had in
fact "lacked the defining skill." However, the statement of the effeminate man about the daughter of Ghailan, whatever it meant, indicated to Muhammad that he did not lack the defining skill of males and that, on the contrary, he had an appreciation of women as sexual objects. This disqualifies him as an intimate domestic servant according to the Qur'an as well as the standards of the day. In
a system that depends on household servants to be heterosexually indifferent, the main risk is that this indifference can be faked. In other words, a heterosexual male can pretend to be an exclusive homosexual in order to gain free access to the private space of women.
There are other hadiths (Bukhari LXXII 61.773 and 62.774) against cross-dressers in which the Prophet specifically curses "males" who imitate women and women who imitate "males," and in which the consequence of their malfeasance is that he "evicts them from the houses." The specification of "males" is made very explicit:
61.773 The Messenger of God, peace be upon him, cursed female-impersonators [m.pl.] who are males, and the male-impersonators [f.pl.] who are women.
Arabic: la'ana rasoolullah salla allahu 'alaihi wa sallama al-mutashabbiheena min ar-rijaali bil-nisaa'i wal-mutashabbihaati min an-nisaa'i bir-rijaali.
62.774 The Prophet, peace be upon him, cursed the effeminates [m.pl.] who are males, and the male-pretenders [f.pl.] who are women, and he said: Evict them from your houses, and the Prophet, peace be upon him, evicted such-and-such
[m.sg.] and 'Umar evicted such-and-such [f.sg.].
Arabic: la'ana an-nabiyy salla allahu 'alaihi wa sallama al-mukhannatheena min ar-rijaali wal-mutarajjilaati min an-nisaa'i wa qaala: akhrijoohum min buyootikum, qaala: fa'akhraja an-nabiyy salla allahu 'alaihi wa sallama fulaanan wa 'akhraja 'umaru fulaanatan.
The words "males" and "women" are obviously emphatic here because the grammar does not really require them to be used. Masculine gender is already provided grammatically by the endings on the words "impersonators" and "effeminates," and feminine gender is already provided in the words "impersonators" and "male-pretenders." Given the emphasis, the curse is specifically directed only at "males" and "women," and does not cover non-males who might be female-impersonators (or non-women who might be male-impersonators, if indeed there was a recognition of "non-women"). It's okay to be a drag queen as long as
you are not a straight man posing to gain access to unsuspecting women, or to the wives of unsuspecting husbands.
The Qur'an recognizes that there are some people who are "ineffectual" ['aqeem], thus neither male nor female:
42:49 "To Allah belongs the dominion over the heavens and the earth. It creates what It wills. It prepares for whom It wills females, and It prepares for whom It wills males. 50 Or It marries together the males and the females, and It makes those whom It wills to be ineffectual. Indeed It is the Knowing, the Powerful."
Arabic: "Lillahi mulku us-samaawaati wal'ardhi. Yakhluqu ma yashaa'u. Yahabu liman yashaa'u inaathan wa yahabu liman yashaa'u adh-dhukura. Aw yuzawwijuhum dhukraanan wa inaathan; wa yaj'alu man yashaa'u 'aqeeman: innahu 'Aleemun Qadeerun."
These last two verses (42:49 and 50) are usually interpreted differently in English translations to say that God bestows daughters or sons on whom It wills and gives some people both sons and daughters. But there are problems with this interpretation, one of which being that the word for causing to marry or pairing up [zawwaja] is used in the second verse. When families have boys and girls, the boys and girls do not usually arrive in pairs! The second problem is that, in
Qur'anic verses mentioning males and females together, the males are usually mentioned first, and the females second (e.g., 3:195, 4:12, 4:124, 6:143-144,16:97, 40:40, 42:50, 49:13, 53:21, 53:45, 75:39, 92:3). This is the only verse in the Qur'an, as far as I know, in which the female is mentioned before the male. If these two verses were talking about sons and daughters, we would expect sons to be mentioned before daughters.
In this case, the "males first" principle would indicate that the lines are referring to females and males not as offspring, but as counterparts, i.e. objects of desire, for "whom(ever) God wills." The female objects of desire are mentioned first because they are most typically objects of desire for males.
The Qur'an itself gives support to pederasts in its
glimpses of paradise:
52:17-29 And they shall have boys [ghilmaan] circulating among them as if they were hidden pearls.
56:22-23 and dark-eyed ones [hoorun 'eenun], the like of hidden pearls
76:19 And immortal boys [wildaanun mukhalladoona] will circulate among them, when you see them you will count them as scattered pearls.
2:25 And they shall have immaculate partners [azwaajun mutahharatun] in [the gardens] ...
4:57 And they shall have immaculate partners [azwaajun mutahharatun] in them
...
One of the great male Sufi contemporaries of Rabi'a al-'Adawiyya provided a divine justification for a pederastic relationship, which was repeated without a hint of disapproval in a 10th century book about great Sufi women:
One day Rabi'a saw Rabah [al-Qaysi] kissing a young boy ["huwa yuqabbil sabiyyan"]. 'Do you love him?' she asked. 'Yes,' he said. To which she replied, 'I did not imagine that there was room in your heart to love anything other than God, the Glorious and Mighty!' Rabah was overcome at this and fainted. When he awoke, he said, 'On the contrary, this is a mercy that God Most High has put into the hearts of his slaves.' Quoted from as-Sulami, Early Sufi Women = Dhikr an-niswa al-muta 'abbidat as sufiyyat, translated by Rkia E. Cornell, Louisville, KY: Fons Vitae, 1999, pp. 78-79.)
Besides boys, straight Muslim men were occasionally interested in grown adults as well, provided they were not "male." There is a hadith in which the Prophet's companions asked whether they were allowed to use men (presumably prisoners of war) as "eunuchs" to fulfill their sexual urges, since they were far from their wives.
Bukhari LXII 6:9 [Narrated by ibn Mas'ud:] "We used to fight [in battle] together with the Prophet, peace be upon him. There were no women with us. We said: O Messenger, may we treat some as eunuchs [a laa nastakhsii]? He forbade us to do so."
THE MUSLIMS ARE QUEERS!
JOIN THE QUEERJIHAD!
http://queerjihad.blogspot.com/
* As is write this a "Same Sex" Marriage law is under consideration in Canada.
* If you investigate you will find a sizable "Gay" Community in the UK (which also has a large Arab population coincidentally).
* Canada has a sizable "Gay" Community as evidenced by this.
* Germany also has a sizable "Gay" Community
* I don't have to tell you about the French do I?
* Literally ALL OF THE "GAY" people I know personally were OPPOSED TO WAR WITH IRAQ
* All of the above 'nations' were VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO WAR IN IRAQ.
* HOMOSEXUALS ARE TERRORISTS and
* TERRORISTS ARE HOMOSEXUALS!
Is a pattern starting to emerge here?
Yes we have:
* Gay Arab/Muslims
* Gay Europeans
* Gay Canadians
* Gay Democrats
ALL PART OF THE INTERNATIONAL QUEER/MUSLIM/TERRORIST CONSPIRACY:
TO ENSLAVE THE PLANET AND MAKE THE WHOLE WORLD QUEER!
We now have seen that many of THE IRAQI TERRORISTS ARE QUEERS and must realize that:
THE QUEERS ARE TERRORISTS!
Let's examine the ISLAMISTS a bit more and today we'll see the DEPTHS OF THEIR DEPRAVITY:
"Girly Boys"
Culturally, Afghanistan seems to share some of the traits of the ancient Greeks. According to one Afghan soldier, "Women are for babies, and men are for pleasure." This place American, British and Australian special operators in a unique and precarious predicament in how to deal with southern Afghanistan's flagrantly homosexual community, which appeared to be quite extensive, especially in the isolated mountainous regions of Afghanistan.
"Well..with this new development...the SF Qualification Course developers at Fort Bragg are now going to have to incorporate a new lesson: how to deal with gays in an unconventional warfare environment", said one of the Green Berets.
British Marines also had their share of interactions with the 'Girly boys". According to journalist Chris Stephen, British Marines had sent patrols into the mountains near the town of Khost, hoping to catch up with AQ suspects who the week before had fought a four-hour gun battle with soldiers of the Australian SAS. When they came out of the mountains, they claim they were swarmed by local farmers, who stroked their hair, offered to paint their toenails, and propositioned them for sex.
"They were more terrifying then the AQ. One bloke who had painted toenails was offering to paint ours," recalled Marine James Fletcher.
"It was hell," added British Marine Corporal Paul Richard. "Every village we went to, we got a group of men wearing makeup coming out, stroking our hair and cheeks and making kissing noises. Some of the guys turned tail and fled. It was hideous."
"I think a lot of the problem is that they don't have the women around a lot," said one British Marine.
Taliban Leader Mullah Mohammed Omar was reported to actually have gained fame by leading a military campaign against two local warlords who were fighting over which one of them would get to sodomize twelve-year-old twin boys who lived in his village.
- "The Hunt for bin Laden", Robin Moore, p 261-262
The Terrorists are not ONLY:
* Murderers
* Maniacs
* Miscreants
* Sociopaths
* Barbarians
* Drug Dealers
THEY ARE QUEERS!
The practice of sodomizing YOUNG ADOLESCENT MALES is also quite common amongst the various "Warlords" of the Trashcanistan States to the North of Afghanistan.
This self-same HOMOSEXUAL PEDOPHILIA Is also quite common in the "Islamic Colleges" in Pakistan and near the border - and it has been so for CENTURIES.
AND THESE ARE THE "HOLY ISLAMIC WARRIORS"!
THE TERRORISTS ARE FILTHY PIGS!
They are also involved in BESTIALITY (when they can't find any young boys for sodomy) and MUSLIM MEN are FREE TO HAVE AS MANY CONCUBINES (Prostitutes) as they CAN AFFORD - and this is in addition to their MULTIPLE WIVES.
Excerpts from Ayatollah Khomeini Book
Ayatollah Khomeini:
A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a
baby. However he
should not penetrate, sodomising the child is OK. If the man
penetrates and
damages the child then he should be responsible for her
subsistence all her
life. This girl, however does not count as one of his four
permanent wives.
The man will not be eligible to marry the girls sister.
From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol
Elm, Gom,
Iran, 1990
Book Title Page/ Cover
Inside Cover of Book
Excerpt: Page [1] | Page [2]
[Mohammad (founder of Islam) The Pedophile]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It is better for a girl to marry in such a time when she would
begin
menstruation at her husband's house rather than her father's
home. Any
father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent
place in
heaven.
From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol
Elm, Gom,
Iran, 1990 [Mohammad (founder of Islam) The Pedophile]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
A man can have sex with animals such as sheep¹s, cows, camels
and so on.
However he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He
should not
sell the meat to the people in his own village, however
selling the meat to
the next door village should be fine.
From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol
Elm, Gom,
Iran, 1990
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a
camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and
even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must
then be killed and as quickly as possible and burned."
The little green book, Sayings of Ayatollah Khomeini,
Political, Phylosophica, Social and Religious with a special
introduction by Clive Irving, ISBN number 0-553-14032-9, page
47
Comments: I am ashamed of being born and raised in Iran, a
country where they built a
Mausoleum over his grave and had the greatest party for his
100th birthday.
Shame on such people.
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So we can see that the ISLAMIST is only interested in the THINGS OF THE FLESH - SEX IS THE HIGHEST GOAL OF THE "Devout" MUSLIM - SOME "Religion" eh?
And from ArabNews.com
Gay Men Face Death In Saudi Arabia
Nine gay men who were caught dressing up in women's clothing and having sex in Saudi Arabia are facing possible death sentences as strict sharia law (a looney medieval interpretation of Islamic Law) is enforced. Death can be by stoning or beheading. Homosexuality is illegal in Saudi and all Islamic countries.
In a completely unrelated move, the British government has agreed to fund Britain's first Islamic schools, and local councils continue to fund Islamic community centres.
British gays must decide to what extent this New Labour government is committed to gay equality.
THE TERRORISTS ARE QUEERS!
The Arab LIKE TO DRESS LIKE WOMEN TOO! - and these are the ISLAMISTS.
THE ISLAMIST TERRORISTS ARE GAY and the GAYS ARE ALL TERRORISTS!
WE MUST PREPARE FOR HOLY WAR!
CHRISTIANS UNITE!
* Do you AGREE WITH THIS BLASPHEMY AGAINST ALMIGHTY GOD?
* Do you AGREE WITH ANDY ROONEY calling Pat Robertson and Mel Gibson WHACKOS?
* Do you AGREE WITH ALL OF THE HATE SPEECH AGAINST CHRISTIANS?
* Do you AGREE with the FILTH that the MEDIA feeds to your CHILDREN?
* Do you AGREE with the VICIOUS ANTI-CHRISTIAN HOMOSEXUALS AND LESBIANS?
*
* DO YOU LOVE THE APOSTLES OR THE HOMOSEXUAL TERRORISTS?
* DO YOU AGREE WITH THE GAY / MUSLIM AGENDA OF THE NEA?
* DO YOU WANT TERRORIST TEACHERS TEACHING YOUR CHILD TO "BE GAY"?
* DO YOU WANT THE HOMO TERRORISTS TO TEACH YOUR CHILD PERVERSION AND DRUGS?
* ARE YOU A BRAVE CHILD OF GOD OR A COWARDLY SATANIC SWINE?
* ARE YOU A HOLY CHRISTIAN OR A FOUL GAY TERRORIST?
* DO YOU LOVE THE RULE OF GOD OR WHAT IS "POLITICALLY CORRECT"?
* WE MUST PREPARE FOR THE COMING OF OUR LORD!
* WE MUST RID OUR HOLY NATION OF THESE EVIL GAY TERRORISTS!
* WE MUST CLEANSE OUR GREAT HOLY NATION!
* WE MUST RID OUR NATION OF THIS FOUL HUMAN TRASH!
* THESE EVIL DEMONS MUST BE SENT INTO HELL NOW!
IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS CHRIST:
The QUEERS are:
DANGEROUS TERRORISTS!
* They SUCK ON EACH OTHER'S GENITALS ALL NIGHT LONG! 1
* They SODOMIZE EACH OTHER ALL NIGHT! 2
* They are heavily involved in Bondage and Discipline! 3
* They are fascinated with SADISM & MASOCHISM!
* They URINATE ON EACH OTHER FOR FUN! 4
* They LICK THEIR PARTNERS RECTUM! 5
* THEY EAT THEIR OWN FECES FOR KICKS! 6
* They put their HANDS, FISTS and ARMS INTO A PARTNER'S ANUS! 7
* They are ALL DOPE FIENDS! 8
* They are Dangerous Manic Depressives! 9
* THEY HATE THEMSELVES AND ARE SUICIDAL! 10
* THEY ARE SEX-CRAZED ANARCHISTS! 11
* THEY SUFFER FROM CHRONIC BRAIN DAMAGE!
* They are MADMEN and WACKO WOMEN!
* THEY ARE EVIL TERRORISTS! 12
* THEY RAPE YOUNG BOYS AND HAVE SEX SLAVES! 13
* They ALL have Venereal Disease! 14
* They GAVE US AIDS AND THEY EXPECT TO GET AIDS! 15
* THEY GIVE PEOPLE HIV & AIDS! 16
* THEY ARE PROMISCUOUS DEMONS! 17
* THEY WANT TO TEACH YOUR CHILDREN TO "BE GAY"! 18
* THEY WANT TO MOLEST YOU SONS AND DAUGHTERS! 19
* THEY ARE FOUL MONSTERS FROM HELL!
* THEY WANT THE GAY MUSLIMS TO RULE THE WORLD!
* THEY ARE CHILD MOLESTERS AND DANGEROUS RAPISTS! 20
* THEY ARE FILTHY DISEASED AND DANGEROUS PIGS!
* THEY ARE CRAZED APES AND CHIMPANZEES! 21
* THEY WORSHIP THE DEVIL! 22
* THEY ARE DANGEROUS FIENDS FROM HADES!
* THE QUEERS KILLED JESUS and are CURSED FOR ETERNITY! 23
WE MUST SEND THEM ALL BACK TO HELL!
"More than 11,000 people in Chicago have died of AIDS and an estimated 22,000 are currently living with HIV and AIDS.
* QUEER TERRORISTS ARE EVIL DEMONS FROM HELL!
* THE QUEER TERRORISTS GAVE US 09/11/2001!
* MOST OF THE ARABS AND MUSLIMS ARE QUEERS!
* QUEERS ARE PUTRID & FOUL TERRORIST MONSTERS!
* THE QUEER TERRORISTS MUST BE SENT BACK TO HADES!
These are ISLAMIST MONSTERS THAT THREATEN THE USA AND THE ENTIRE CHRISTIAN WORLD - SO WE MUST EXTERMINATE THESE EVIL CHIMERAS RIGHT NOW!
THEY ARE FILTHY DISEASED DEMONS FROM HADES THAT MUST BE DEFEATED FOR THE SAKE OF OUR SACRED CHILDREN AND ALL OF THE DECENT PEOPLE ON THIS EARTH!
THIS IS HOLY WAR!
WE MUST SAVE AMERICA FROM THESE DEBASED MUSLIM QUEERS!
Remember that:
* JOHN GACY WAS GAY
* RICHARD SPECK WAS GAY
* JEFFREY DAHLMER WAS GAY
* Bin Laden is Gay
* Mullah Omar is Gay
* Sayyid Qutb was Gay
* Yassir Arafart was Gay
* Ibn Muhammed al Wahhab was Gay
All of these heinous mass murderers and Terrorists were homosexuals and there are many more lurking in America's "Gay" Communities, waiting to ravish and destroy your precious children and there are even thousands of these disease infested homosexuals TEACHING IN OUR SCHOOLS and exposing your children to their debased and EVIL ideologies.
"Cursed is the man who trusts in human beings,
who SEEKS HIS STRENGTH IN FLESH,
whose HEART turns AWAY FROM THE LORD.
Bring upon them the DAY OF MISFORTUNE,
CRUSH THEM WITH REPEATED DESTRUCTION."
Jeremiah 17:5,6;18
Praise the Lord and God Bless America,
Zionist/Infidel/Neocon/Crusader/Jew/Kafir
1 This leads to regular throat cancer and recurrent gonorrhea in "Gay" Males and oral fungus in females
2 Sodomy - which frequently breaks blood vessels in the anus and frequently spread AIDS
3 Pick up a copy of "Chicago Free Press", look at the "Free Time" pullout and judge for yourself
4 These are known as "Golden Showers"
5 This is known as "Rimming"
6 This is know as "body candy" - and they do eat each other's feces
7 This is known as 'Fisting"
8 A full 46% of "Gay" men and women admit to regular drug use and abuse
9 30% of "Gay" men and women suffer from chronic manic depression
10 Suicide is unusually high in the "Gay" Community
11 As witnessed in San Francisco, "Gays" have no respect for the laws of the land
12 Most "Islamic Terrorists" are also Gay - 50% of men in Saudi Arabia are homosexuals
13 Come down to Chicago's Lakeview area some night after 11:00 PM and see for yourself
14 In the "GBLT" Community, a case of "the clap" (Syphilis, gonorrhea, herpes, fungus) is no big deal
15 50% of Gay Men expect to become HIV Positive in the next ten years
16 HIV Infection is UP 32% in Chicago this year and has been going UP for the last 7 years
17 "Gay" means the Freedom to have as MANY SEX PARTNERS as you like - Unlimited Promiscuity
18 I am a Teacher and I see it all the time - the GAY AGENDA Of the National Education Association Teachers is designed to raise a NEW GENERATION OF Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual and Transgendered youth
19 Homosexual Teachers frequently molest young boys after school and on special 'trips'
20 67% of Pedophiles are GAY - JOHN GACY and RICHARD SPECK were GAY
21 But the Apes at Lincoln Park Zoo don't want anything to do with our Chicago "gay" men
22 Actually, they only worship sin, but since they do the Work of Satan they are ANGELS FROM HELL
23 The Romans killed Jesus - and the ROMAN SOLDIERS WERE GAY!
Well, that was short and to the point, I guess.
when wretchard mentions the "religious" aspect in leftist belief, it's good to keep in mind the utopian impulse which has been so formative in the american frame of mind. in the 1820s, 1840s, 1870s, 1920s and late 1960s early 70s all kinds of citizens fled ordinary banal life for communes and various idealist movements and cults, ranging from new brook farm to robert owen's new harmony to alphadephia or whatever, generally short-lived experiments which might feature socalled "free love" or nondoctrinaire socialism, nudism or the taking of hallucinogenic drugs.
It seems to me that given the need to actually work for a living makes some people wish for the good old days of being a servant...after all, for a little abuse, you got fed and hand a place to sleep. America has almost always demanded that for the benefits conferred, you had to work...some people just want an out...socialism in its many forms promises (but does not deliver) such 'comfort'.
I'm not sure if this was covered in that rather lengthy post, but if you are interested in having sex with stallions, please be sure that the horse is smaller than the size of your stool.
(Had to get in one more nice scat piece before the reformation in comments took effect.)
Reformation, first in Mohammedism second in Belmont.
The trouble with real Stallions, doug, is that they make my forearm look small.
If the stool is that large I'd suggest a recliner.
LOL!
With a strategically placed orifice, of course.
My, that's a long post!
I see a lot of wishful thinking here. Yes, the left is down. Apparantly, down is defined as dominant in culture and government, and academia. Would that the conservatives were so "down".
Those on the left will never wake up, never accept rality, never fight for the United States and for freedom and liberty. They will die first. But that is not the problem that I see.
The left is represented. It has the media. It has the government. It has academia. It discriminates and enforces; it determines it's own destiny.
The conservatives, at least in the United States, do not.
George Bush is no conservative. He is a moderate. No major party represents the conservatives...they have no voice, no media to speak of, no power. No one consults them for war plans. They are ignored.
As they should be. There are not enough of them. They cannot even get a recognizable leader in the public light. They have no organisation. They are weak and pitiful. They fool themselves into beleiving that someone gives a damn what they think. The entire United States decieves itself into beleiving that Mr. Bush is a conservative, and that, therfore, he is waging a fierce war. This is a falsehood. Mr Bush is weak and foolish. His war is weak and foolish.
I can only sepak for myself...I can't beleive that any enemy in the Islamic world can look at the response of the US so far without laughing. Two small, insignificant countries? No use of nuclear weapons, even when they could have been used easily, with no civillian casulties, in the middle of nowhere? They all expected it. They see the response, so far, as the merest movement of the littlest finger of a sleeping hand. Pathetic.
It will soon become apparant, in my opinion. Our failure to March on Syria and Iran will result in thousands of needless deaths, on both sides. No Churchill here.
My main point is, the right in the US is the one that is truly down, not the left. Their refusal to organise, to hold members of parties accountable, their endless corruption, have made them irrelevant.
Until we recognize this, and by we, I mean those who care for freedom, and the United States, this country will continue to lose ground in this vital war. Only the recognition that those who love this country are in the minority, and therfore, need to use minority tactics and strategys, will save this country, and the freedom for which it stands.
I'll bet you dollars to donuts that "George M Weinart" is the same bandwith-hogging, thread-killing, cut 'n paster that got himself banned from David Horowitz's "Moonbat Central" blog.
The vilest breed of troll is not the one who tries to provoke an argument and tosses out insults. It's the guy that pretends to agree with your editorial stance and then takes it over the top into "hate speech" territory in order to tar all of the other comments with the same brush.
(While making our eyes glaze over and our wrists carpal up from scrolling)
People like this are out to destroy this new and important venue of free speech from within.
Just imagine what could happen if, following another A.Q. "spectacular" some Islamist takes a cue from "Dirty Harry"
and volunteers to have his buddies down at the Mosque kick him to the curb. He could then recount from his hospital bed how he was waylaid by thugs in green football jersies who beat him with a club that had "Belmont" written on it and threatened him with a Rottweiler as their cute ethnic Filipina girlfriends cheered them on from the sidelines and, viola, righty blog inspired hate crime, and a call to "Ban the Blogs"
Farfetched? maybe, but if we don't moderate the comments, we leave ourselves wide open to this kind of attack.
If Mr. Weinart and "AmericanJihad" aren't one and the same, then I apologize. If they are then I am performing a public service by warning you.
You are not the only dog who "Makes the rounds" you can run, but you can't hide.
I hope that Wretchard does ban George M Weinart: Half the comments on this post are Weinart's single huge comment. All he's doing is venting bile and hogging bandwidth. He's a useless troll.
" Who is going to help the victims of religious intolerance in Britain's immigrant communities? Not the Liberal Democrats, who have never once offered support to liberal and democrats in Iraq. Nor an anti-war left which prefers to embrace a Muslim Association of Britain and Yusuf al-Qaradawi who believe that Muslims who freely decide to change their religion or renounce religion should be executed. "
This is the trap for the anti-war Left -- what do they want in Sudan? What for Zimbabwe? The world needs a real world cop, and the UN it ain't goona be, not with China on the UN SC. Supporting human rights, without using force, means accepting genocide. Again (Sudan), Again (Congo), Again (Zimbabwe), Again (Srebrenica), Again (Rwanda), and Again (Cambodia & Vietnam).
And this is what the BASTARDS are saying:
Enemy Email VI
This is from the Muslim Queers at Hizb ut-Tahrir - one of the largest International Islamic Terrorist groups in the Islamic world.
"Allah has promised to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds, that of a certainty, He will cause them to accede to power on earth, as He granted it to those before them, that He will establish in authority their Deen which he has chosen for them, and that He will change (their state) after the fear in which they lived, to one of security and peace: They will worship Me (alone) and not ascribe powers to any beside Me" [TMQ 24: 55].
Well The Muslim Allah has fallen on his vengeful and ignorant arse - MUSLIMS ARE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF EVERYONE and have been for the LAST 800 YEARS!
From The media office of Hizb ut-Tahrir in the Wilayah of Turkey
Date: 04 March 2005
Hizb ut-Tahrir will never be destroyed, by Allah's Leave (and Allah leaves a lot)
On Wednesday 1 March 2005, before sunrise at 5:30am, squads from the security services undertook a raid of a number of houses belonging to members of Hizb ut-Tahrir. Using degrading and shameless means, these raids resulted in the arrest of 5 distinguished members of the Hizb who had been specifically targeted In devotion to the oppressive regime, and with absolutely no regard to any personal rights given by Allah (SWT), the squads arrested not only 5 members, but also two Muslims who had nothing to do with the Hizb; as they could not locate two members after storming their houses, they decided to arrest their two brothers instead!
(the "Degrading and shameless means" are what we in the West call 'search warrants' and whenever any of these Smelly Muslim slobs turns up in an investigation, they claim they have been 'targeted'! = Easy, see dummy?0
The arrests by security teams of those two Muslims who have nothing to do with Hizb ut-Tahrir indicate, once again, the bankruptcy, foolishness and weakness of the government. As a result of the campaign of arrests, the court issued yesterday, on 3 March 2005, prison sentences for the five distinguished members charging them with membership of Hizb ut-Tahrir, with which they were working to restore the honour of the Muslims through the re-establishment of the Khilafah Rashidah. Ironically, it was upon this same day that the Muslims recall a calamity which befell the Ummah; it is the day when the Khilafah was destroyed, which protected and defended the dignity of the Muslims. Shortly after the sentence being issued, they were moved to prison.
(According to the twisted ideas of these queer goons, Jihad Terrorism is 'restoring the honor of Muslims' - but it's based on a fallacy - Muslims never have had any 'honor' - they are ignorant pigs)
The campaign of arrests continues against the members of Hizb ut-Tahrir although they have no justification in the laws as the accusations made by the Turkish state have been all false. Even though they have no basis or justification to their actions, they are still eager to implement them upon the sincere Muslims who work night and day to unite this ummah under Islam. As a result, the biased media have been reporting that during the previous operations, such measures were taken against Hizb ut-Tahrir in order to crush them and that recent actions led to the arrests of individuals who were trying to revive the organisation in Turkey. All of these claims made by the media are nothing but lies with no basis.
(the 'biased' media actually do a lot for the smelly Muslim - but even with this, anyone who does not approve of their medieval barbarism must be guilty of "LIES, LIES, LIES!")
O agents and humiliated rulers of Turkey; the Hizb does not need to be revived! Rather, it was active before this and you know this fact very well. The Hizb will continue its work to revive this noble Ummah and will never sway no matter what the consequences may be - by Allah's Leave. The Hizb will continue to be a thorn in the throat of the tyrants!
(in other words - F**K The laws - the TERRORISM of the Muslims must continue)
"Deem not that Allah is unaware of what the wicked oppressors do. He but gives them a respite till a day when eyes will stare (in terror)". [TMQ 14: 42]
(NOTE - IN TERROR! YOU MUST BE IN TERROR OF THE RELIGION OF PEACE!)
Here we would like to turn to the Turkish public opinion:
It should be known that it never happened in the past, nor will it happen now, or happen in future that Hizb ut-Tahrir will be destroyed. States such as Turkey, which revolve around the Kaafir colonial powers, have not and will never be able to destroy Hizb ut-Tahrir. Just as they have not and will never be able to finish the Hizb, their colonial kaafir masters and their friends from the Kaafir colonialist states will never be able to destroy the Hizb either
Despite campaigns of oppression, intimidation, arrests, and attempts to destroy the Hizb undertaken by the regimes, Hizb ut-Tahrir derives its strength from Allah 'azza wajalla and the Ummah, which increases in strength and popularity day after day. By the Grace and Mercy of Allah (SWT), it is standing on the threshold of achieving the material support (nusra) which will establish the second Khilafah Rashidah soon; the state which Allah 'azza wajalla approves, so as to take the initiative from the Kaafir regimes, which live on spilling the blood of their people.
(THE ISLAMIC TERROR OF Hizb ut-Tahrir SHALL CONTINUE FOREVER!)
"And those who do wrong will come to know by what overturning they will be overturned" [TMQ 26: 227]
(These scum have learned from their QUEER PROPHET well - so it's time for even MORE TERROR)
It should be known that, despite the harassment and arrests by the authorities, the shabab of the Hizb have determination to carry the Da'wah openly, unashamedly, and in a challenging manner. They will not flatter or compromise the truth, nor will they fear the persecution of anybody for the sake of Allah (swt). Despite its resolve and strength, it has restricted its work to political actions and has not resorted to material actions against the regimes or those who stand in the way of its call. This is not due to fear of the rulers and their regimes; rather it is in emulation of the Messenger of Allah (saw) in his Da'wah to Islam in Makkah
(And this is what that "Holy Messenger" has to say - (from the "Peaceful Koran")
The Prophet Mohammed (Piss Be Upon Him) was very fond of Terror and reveals this in his "Divinely" given cave Revelations with an alarming fecundity of violent screeds :
[3:151]
Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with God, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the Fire: And evil is the home of the wrong-doers!
Cast Terror into their hearts? Does this begin to explain why Islam teaches Terrorism?
[6:63]
Say: "Who is it that delivereth you from the dark recesses of land and sea, when ye call upon Him in humility and silent terror: 'If He only delivers us from these (dangers), (we vow) we shall truly show our gratitude'.?"
You had better be in a state of Terror !
[7:116]
Said Moses: "Throw ye (first)." So when they threw, they bewitched the eyes of the people, and struck terror into them: for they showed a great (feat of) magic.
Which is what Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hizbullah, AQ and all the rest are attempting daily - Peaceful?
[8:12]
Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."
The Merciful Allah prescribes awful torture and mortal fear for the non-Muslim - Lo!
[8:60]
Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of God and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom God doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of God, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.
Make your enemies live in Terror of the Mighty and very Bloody Allah and his Islam.
[16:112]
God sets forth a Parable: a city enjoying security and quiet, abundantly supplied with sustenance from every place: Yet was it ungrateful for the favours of God: so God made it taste of hunger and terror (in extremes) (closing in on it) like a garment (from every side), because of the (evil) which (its people) wrought.
The vengeful old Allah is never quite satisfied until he can Terrorize some group of Kafir.
[17:59]
And We refrain from sending the signs, only because the men of former generations treated them as false: We sent the she-camel to the Thamud to open their eyes, but they treated her wrongfully: We only send the Signs by way of terror (and warning from evil).
Yeah, just terrorize the kafir and they will understanding - hat "She-camel" is the worlds First Muslim Transsexual.
[17:60]
Behold! We told thee that thy Lord doth encompass mankind round about: We granted the vision which We showed thee, but as a trial for men,- as also the Cursed Tree (mentioned) in the Qur'an: We put terror (and warning) into them, but it only increases their inordinate transgression!
Make sure to Terrorize all so they meekly submit to the Kind and Merciful Allah.
[18:49]
And the Book (of Deeds) will be placed (before you); and thou wilt see the sinful in great terror because of what is (recorded) therein; they will say, "Ah! woe to us! what a Book is this! It leaves out nothing small or great, but takes account thereof!" They will find all that they did, placed before them: And not one will thy Lord treat with injustice.
So you had best be Terrorized of the Kind, Merciful and psychotically violent Allah.
[20:102]
The Day when the Trumpet will be sounded: that Day, We shall gather the sinful, blear-eyed (with terror).
Make sure you instill Terror into the Kafir before you torture and kill them - such a Peaceful Religion.
[27:87]
And the Day that the Trumpet will be sounded - then will be smitten with terror those who are in the heavens, and those who are on earth, except such as God will please (to exempt): and all shall come to His (Presence) as beings conscious of their lowliness.
Allah is coming - wait in Terror for the horrible fate that awaits you!.
This is the explanation of the aims and method of the Hizb for which it deserves to be supported and according to which the people work with it. There is no doubt that actions such as spying on its shabab, hunting them, placing obstacles in their path, arresting them, trial and imprisonment are grotesque and a great sin. It is a shame and humiliation in this world and the Hereafter for anyone who undertakes such actions. The Ummah will account those who had the audacity to treat the shabab in this way and then it will discard them. Their reckoning on the Last Day will be severe and grievous. He (swt) said:
(THE SUPERIOR MUSLIMS CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WISH - or else you get this:
[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters
wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait
for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the
poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Yeah, Allah is a really loving dude is he not?
[9.9] They have taken a small price for the communications of Allah, so they
turn away from His way; surely evil is it that they do.
And since non-Muslims do evil, they deserve only punishment and death.
[9.11] But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are
your brethren in faith; and We make the communications clear for a people who
know.
Non-Muslims may pay a sepcial tax, the Jizya - here called the "poor Due" in order to live as second class citizens known as "Dhimmi"
[9.13] What! will you not fight a people who broke their oaths and aimed at the
expulsion of the Apostle, and they attacked you first; do you fear them? But
Allah is most deserving that you should fear Him, if you are believers.
WHAT?!?!? Do you still you can convince us of your "Peaceful" Religion?
[9.14] Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to
disgrace, and assist you against them and heal the hearts of a believing people.
The kind and merciful Allah punishes the kufar and brings them to digrace but rewards the Muslim who kills them.
[9.17] The idolaters have no right to visit the mosques of Allah while bearing
witness to unbelief against themselves, these it is whose doings are null, and
in the fire shall they abide.
Non-Muslims have no right to enter an Islamic House of Worship. Since they hide their guns and explosives in the mosques, this is a good idea.
[9.19] What! do you make (one who undertakes) the giving of drink to the
pilgrims and the guarding of the Sacred Mosque like him who believes in Allah
and the latter day and strives hard in Allah's way? They are not equal with
Allah; and Allah does not guide the unjust people.
WHAT?!?!? Do you DARE to give a drink of water to the non-Muslim? Allah is Kind, Merciful.
[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do
they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the
religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the
tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
Keep fighting the Infidel until they pay or are all dead - the MOB calls this 'juice' (Extortion)
"Those who oppose Allah and His messenger will; be abased even as those before them were abased; and We have sent down clear signs, and for disbelievers is a shameful doom." [TMQ 58: 5]
The media office of Hizb ut-Tahrir in the Wilayah of Turkey
These ignorant monkeys always close like this - YET THESE MUSLIMS ARE THE SAME STUPID PIGS THAT ALWAYS LOOSE AND ALWAYS SHALL!
Isaiah 1:2 Hear, O heavens! Listen, O earth!
For the LORD has spoken:
"I reared children and brought them up,
but they have rebelled against me.
3 The ox knows his master,
the donkey his owner's manger,
but Israel does not know,
my people do not understand."
4 Ah, sinful nation,
a people loaded with guilt,
a brood of evildoers,
children given to corruption!
They have forsaken the LORD;
they have spurned the Holy One of Israel
and turned their backs on him.
5 Why should you be beaten anymore?
Why do you persist in rebellion?
Your whole head is injured,
your whole heart afflicted.
6 From the sole of your foot to the top of your head
there is no soundnessâ€"
only wounds and welts
and open sores,
not cleansed or bandaged
or soothed with oil.
7 Your country is desolate,
your cities burned with fire;
your fields are being stripped by foreigners
right before you,
laid waste as when overthrown by strangers.
8 The Daughter of Zion is left
like a shelter in a vineyard,
like a hut in a field of melons,
like a city under siege.
9 Unless the LORD Almighty
had left us some survivors,
we would have become like Sodom,
we would have been like Gomorrah.
10 Hear the word of the LORD,
you rulers of Sodom;
listen to the law of our God,
you people of Gomorrah!
11 "The multitude of your sacrificesâ€"
what are they to me?" says the LORD.
"I have more than enough of burnt offerings,
of rams and the fat of fattened animals;
I have no pleasure
in the blood of bulls and lambs and goats.
12 When you come to appear before me,
who has asked this of you,
this trampling of my courts?
13 Stop bringing meaningless offerings!
Your incense is detestable to me.
New Moons, Sabbaths and convocationsâ€"
I cannot bear your evil assemblies.
14 Your New Moon festivals and your appointed feasts
my soul hates.
They have become a burden to me;
I am weary of bearing them.
15 When you spread out your hands in prayer,
I will hide my eyes from you;
even if you offer many prayers,
I will not listen.
Your hands are full of blood;
16 wash and make yourselves clean.
Take your evil deeds
out of my sight!
Stop doing wrong,
17 learn to do right!
Seek justice,
encourage the oppressed. [a]
Defend the cause of the fatherless,
plead the case of the widow.
18 "Come now, let us reason together,"
says the LORD.
"Though your sins are like scarlet,
they shall be as white as snow;
though they are red as crimson,
they shall be like wool.
19 If you are willing and obedient,
you will eat the best from the land;
20 but if you resist and rebel,
you will be devoured by the sword."
For the mouth of the LORD has spoken.
21 See how the faithful city
has become a harlot!
She once was full of justice;
righteousness used to dwell in herâ€"
but now murderers!
22 Your silver has become dross,
your choice wine is diluted with water.
23 Your rulers are rebels,
companions of thieves;
they all love bribes
and chase after gifts.
They do not defend the cause of the fatherless;
the widow's case does not come before them.
24 Therefore the Lord, the LORD Almighty,
the Mighty One of Israel, declares:
"Ah, I will get relief from my foes
and avenge myself on my enemies.
25 I will turn my hand against you;
I will thoroughly purge away your dross
and remove all your impurities.
26 I will restore your judges as in days of old,
your counselors as at the beginning.
Afterward you will be called
the City of Righteousness,
the Faithful City."
27 Zion will be redeemed with justice,
her penitent ones with righteousness.
28 But rebels and sinners will both be broken,
and those who forsake the LORD will perish.
29 "You will be ashamed because of the sacred oaks
in which you have delighted;
you will be disgraced because of the gardens
that you have chosen.
30 You will be like an oak with fading leaves,
like a garden without water.
31 The mighty man will become tinder
and his work a spark;
both will burn together,
with no one to quench the fire."
HALLELUJAH!
Praise the Lord and God Bless America,
Zionist/Infidel/Neocon/Crusader/Jew/Kafir
George M Weinert V
http://americanjihad.blogspot.com/
the MUSLIMS ARE PIGS:
PRAISE THE LORD!
VA MUSLIM ATTACKED BY MEN SHOUTING RACIST SLURS
Pregnant woman in Islamic dress assaulted, called 'terrorist
b*tch'
(WASHINGTON, D.C., 8/9/05) - A prominent national Islamic
civil rights and advocacy group today called on law
enforcement authorities to treat an assault this morning on a
Virginia Muslim woman as a hate crime.
The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations
(CAIR) reported that a 23-year-old Muslim woman, who is 8
months pregnant and wears and Islamic head scarf, said she was
out for her morning walk in Arlington, Va., when three white
men in a pick-up truck began screaming anti-Muslim and racist
slurs at her. According to the victim, the men shouted, "You
terrorist b*tch, go back to your country. . .You n*gger
b*tch." (The woman is African-American.)
The truck drove away and then returned as the woman continued
on her walk. One of the men, who was wearing military-style
clothing, allegedly got out of the vehicle and began shoving
the woman and preventing her from moving away. During the
assault, he shouted, "You terrorist b*tch. . . We're going to
kick you're a*s. . . you're nothing." The other men then
called the attacker back to the truck and it sped off.
"We believe these types of incidents are the direct result of
the growing level of virulent anti-Muslim rhetoric Americans
are exposed to on the Internet, in newspaper editorial pages
and on radio talk shows," said CAIR Communications Director
Ibrahim Hooper. "Our nation's political and religious leaders
must begin to challenge Islamophobic hate-mongers."
Hooper noted that a Washington, D.C., radio talk show host was
recently suspended without pay for stating repeatedly that
"Islam is a terrorist organization." He added that an Illinois
man was arrested just last Friday for threatening to bomb
CAIR's Capitol Hill headquarters.
In July, a national council of American Muslim religious
scholars issued a "fatwa," or formal Islamic legal ruling,
against terrorism and religious extremism. That fatwa has been
endorsed by some 200 Islamic groups, leaders and institutions.
SEE: http://www.cair.com/includes/Anti-TerrorList.pdf
CAIR, America's largest Muslim civil liberties group, has 31
offices and chapters nationwide and in Canada. Its mission is
to enhance the understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue,
protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims, and build
coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding.
To read CAIR's Mission, Vision Statement and Core Principles,
go to: http://www.cair-net.org/default.asp?Page=About
That's JUST THE START - YOU QUEER TERRORIST BASTARDS!
YOU MUST GET OUT NOW BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!
* MUSLIMS ARE SAVAGES
* MUSLIMS ARE PERVERTS AND QUEERS
* MUSLIMS ARE CRAWLING WITH VD AND AIDS
* MUSLIMS ARE IGNORANT
* MUSLIMS ARE DRUG DEALERS
* MUSLIMS ARE THIEVES
* MUSLIMS ARE INSANE
* MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS
* MUSLIMS ARE CRAZED KILLERS!
WHY DO WE ALLOW THESE DANGEROUS MONSTERS TO REMAIN HERE?
THE MUSLIMS WANT TO KILL ALL AMERICANS!
KICK THE MUSLIM PIG OUT NOW!
God Bless America, Mr. George M Weinert V
http://americanjihad.blogspot.com/
http://livejournal.com/~americanjihad/
Whew! I feel like I just went through South Park's "Tunnel of Hate".
You may not be a Troll in the classic sense, G.W, but your nettiquete reeks. That's not a comment, That's a fillibuster.
I see that you have your own blog, which saves me from having to tell you to get one. Too bad the essays contained therin are verbatim what you just pasted in here.
How would you like it if somebody took an essay from, say, EjectEjectEject and dumped it into your comments section?
You've got a lot of heart, GW but where's that famed Christian sense of Compassion and The Golden Rule?
Surely an Educator knows the meaning of the word "Brevity"
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